From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from omta002.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net (omta002.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net [3.97.99.33]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 012443858D3C for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2021 15:23:01 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 012443858D3C Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=SystematicSw.ab.ca Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=systematicsw.ab.ca Received: from shw-obgw-4001a.ext.cloudfilter.net ([10.228.9.142]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id h9WJmxpwbps7PhCflm2NPj; Sun, 31 Oct 2021 15:23:01 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([68.147.0.90]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id hCfkmlftLXoZRhCflmGFGT; Sun, 31 Oct 2021 15:23:01 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=R8NgpfdX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=617eb4d5 a=T+ovY1NZ+FAi/xYICV7Bgg==:117 a=T+ovY1NZ+FAi/xYICV7Bgg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=slAecSbOP5pdSM5ZYdsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Reply-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com From: Brian Inglis Organization: Systematic Software Subject: Dropping various support in future releases - what about Mingw? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 09:23:00 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfC7ErbzKjGVCNovHdtRdUzv56FggFf6vkhMvKovIqFesJfndX4srbE06nEglaeAyBAFNWTjfJ07iesXOXSgEnduUfCEoJAL2EzzVejFStmGrY3oYZm3R uPAghduLEeJMvZUp5edXbFEeYl5fqW1DTIj2xDoW1NSe8/WiAt27wqGrSju+IL3A60zARPCGJS61s/6p7OQzYg9ogjjv6UZImwY= X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1160.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, RCVD_IN_BARRACUDACENTRAL, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Cygwin package maintainer discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 15:23:03 -0000 Perhaps someone could explain why Cygwin maintains, builds, and distributes Mingw tools and libraries, instead of that being done by the Mingw project(s) about which I know little? As we will be dropping Windows versions and 32 bit support in future releases, should we also be looking at dropping the Mingw packages we maintain, build, and distribute, but do not appear to use, except for building other Mingw packages? Supporting the two Mingw variations on packages sometimes takes as much work as the Cygwin packages, as parts of the toolchains and libraries may have different versions and dependencies. I basically build, check, and distribute those, but know little about using them to check they work, so no idea whether they work or not. I have had little success in getting the Mingw dual arch build process working to any useful extent, and no response to questions about that, which I may have buried at the end of my other verbiage on this list. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]