From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from omta001.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net (omta001.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net [3.97.99.32]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87F283858D33; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 05:19:53 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 87F283858D33 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=Shaw.ca Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=shaw.ca Received: from shw-obgw-4001a.ext.cloudfilter.net ([10.228.9.142]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id P32Mpo0Bac9C4PGOXpW7VL; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 05:19:53 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=shaw.ca; s=s20180605; t=1675747193; bh=ftqArP97col0sCASJUX1tA6j5fztf97h+TaRZNIkUVo=; h=Date:From:Subject:Reply-To:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To; b=SV7xPhBVKjBZwRC6fDkAldXb5KR+zDkWxWQikRn6f+8SZXJNQdkdBBGZfxAuFP91I R6CQur6Ji7tvLGAyuFGthW4WxBDhz6oBvIKs8g4sApk9TK85fnvhWOL5DJnkLT5pb+ wN2oy/8d2tUMGWOvFPUW2hyJUAE7sz3mGx+Fk+aSQr38IbDPsKggOEUcV97/LxIOtK 3aqVNxNfQWKMbkksbioYrv0ivCBV0O90afgAi4LLAgNxCulSFhK+w/BtF+uutRUYHf aLmBAb5ujYnXj+yfeSLUZbz96bZaAfhPlnBLGsZmwxxt5QeUd8aiu4rsw8AqSPu70u 2e/aHw9jtDMfw== Received: from [10.0.0.5] ([184.64.102.149]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id PGOWpc4NgHFsOPGOWp6K6O; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 05:19:53 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=XZqaca15 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=63e1df79 a=DxHlV3/gbUaP7LOF0QAmaA==:117 a=DxHlV3/gbUaP7LOF0QAmaA==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=H4nt5sfNAAAA:8 a=OnagdKfrAAAA:8 a=3475iBJr7V7cnICTl-YA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=j744ULV4_KjDvS5-Oz3_:22 a=7Hfwl3kBraAJqpsVPXEp:22 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 22:19:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.1 From: Brian Inglis Subject: Re: [ITP] openh264 (2.3.1) Reply-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Cc: Yaakov Selkowitz References: <20230205173745.cf6aa7153ce8eae1dfd52c4c@nifty.ne.jp> <61e8a80b73a2d431afa338bd274dac17c5c87e25.camel@cygwin.com> Content-Language: en-CA Organization: Inglis In-Reply-To: <61e8a80b73a2d431afa338bd274dac17c5c87e25.camel@cygwin.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfIbfXzr9FVRFO/v/dyIXzN6Z5nsp0gqOCCPBw4ZIZ4SWWPwQGBlEJzMkzlB4Oz8CrSgiNM3DY4YRBhuTondVxQNImOxXxYGnxQ98sySL7i0FlcecGLDw QLqCdPQJ6da2EpTaJMO4uobz4AlhaRKaGOH/37VAx85WOBHUMqNYcrd5PlIMHPYi+ceF1SNVCWJj2fPYffZgMsKexK84S1URwUCl+2akKNpUU6Elabu9dbOC X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On 2023-02-05 22:16, Yaakov Selkowitz via Cygwin-apps wrote: > On Sun, 2023-02-05 at 22:11 -0700, Brian Inglis wrote: >> On 2023-02-05 19:44, Yaakov Selkowitz via Cygwin-apps wrote: >>> On Sun, 2023-02-05 at 17:37 +0900, Takashi Yano via Cygwin-apps wrote: >>>> I would like to propose new package openh264, which is >>>> a H264 video codec library. This is needed by ffmpeg >>>> package I had proposed, and also provided for ffmpeg-free >>>> package in fedora. >>>> >>>> I already prepared the package at the following location. >>>> >>>> https://tyan0.yr32.net/cygwin/x86_64/release/openh264/ >> >>> Unfortunately, this cannot be included in the Cygwin distribution. >>> Cisco's >>> patent license only covers binaries they distribute.  Fedora has a special >>> arrangement with Cisco where they build their RPMs on Fedora >>> infrastructure, >>> but the packages are hosted by Cisco in a separate repository. >> >> http://www.openh264.org/ >> "Cisco has taken their H.264 implementation, and open sourced it under BSD >> license terms. Development and maintenance will be overseen by a board from >> industry and the open source community. Furthermore, we have provided a >> binary form suitable for inclusion in applications across a number of different >> operating systems, and make this binary module available for download from >> the Internet. We will not pass on our MPEG-LA licensing costs for this module, >> and based on the current licensing environment, this will effectively make H.264 >> free for use on supported platforms." > This is exactly the point. Cisco paid for a license, but that license is > limited to binaries they distribute. Unfortunately, I doubt that Cisco will > do the same for Cygwin. Other distros and 3rd party repos provide the libraries and utilities in their free-est repos e.g. DSC and DFSG conforming: what makes Fedora different, and why has that any impact on what Cygwin may provide? Would it make a difference if we moved from RH servers to SFC infrastructure, or servers outside the US? -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry