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From: Jon Turney <jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk>
To: cygwin-developers@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Maybe consider rpmalloc
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:53:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e82d01ea-e56b-e949-1188-ffac6d04875a@dronecode.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93809c4f-7747-3611-0d20-bde09e091f1d@maxrnd.com>

On 14/04/2021 09:19, Mark Geisert wrote:
> Teemu Nätkinniemi wrote:
>> Thanks a lot for looking into this issue! I wonder if there are any
>> other applications affected by this?
> 
> We have several examples by now.  All are (relatively) long-lasting 
> apps, with high to very high memory allocation churn, often 
> multi-threaded.  I believe some specific rsync operations hit this.  
> Achim reported a zstd operation that exhibited the symptoms.  And I've 
> been attempting to get a working replacement for Cygwin's malloc for 
> some time but every malloc I've tested, several of them, exhibits 
> similar symptoms: excessive time being spent in ntdll.dll presumably 
> supporting the memory operations.
> 
> Your rpmalloc "hack" is interesting in that you aren't using Cygwin's 
> mmap() underneath the malloc routines; you're calling Windows VM ops 
> directly.  Not sure yet what all the implications are.
> 
> I need to identify what's being hit within ntdll.dll.  Is it one or two 
> routines, or just hot locks.  So that means getting the correct PDB file 
> from the MS Symbol Server and working with Windows tools I'm unfamiliar 
> with.  Sigh, in an earlier life I had a gdb that we'd taught how to work 

Yes, this would indeed be a very useful thing to have in gdb.

I'm not aware of any public work in that direction, though.

> with PDB files; dunno if I could resurrect that.  Profiling the Cygwin 
> DLL itself, call profiling I mean, might lead somewhere as well.

In the past I've had some success with using the Very Sleepy profiler 
([1]), which can use both PDB and DWARF symbols, on cygwin executables.

[1] https://github.com/VerySleepy/verysleepy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-14 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-25  6:01 Cygwin malloc tune-up status Mark Geisert
2020-09-27 16:54 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-09-29  2:22   ` Mark Geisert
2021-04-01  9:19     ` Teemu Nätkinniemi
2021-04-02  5:45       ` Maybe consider rpmalloc -- Was: " Mark Geisert
2021-04-03  2:53         ` Maybe consider rpmalloc Mark Geisert
2021-04-03  6:46           ` Teemu Nätkinniemi
2021-04-03  6:48             ` Teemu Nätkinniemi
2021-04-11  9:28               ` Mark Geisert
2021-04-12  8:48                 ` Teemu Nätkinniemi
2021-04-13  8:24                   ` Mark Geisert
2021-04-13 13:05                     ` Teemu Nätkinniemi
2021-04-14  8:19                       ` Mark Geisert
2021-04-14 18:36                         ` Teemu Nätkinniemi
2021-04-14 18:53                         ` Jon Turney [this message]
2021-04-19  5:16                           ` Mark Geisert
2021-04-20 19:34                             ` Jon Turney

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