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* YA Licensing question
@ 2008-12-03 14:57 Steve Duquette
  2008-12-03 15:46 ` Corinna Vinschen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Steve Duquette @ 2008-12-03 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-licensing

Hi,
	I have looked through your FAQ's, read the GPL at least a
thousand times, Googled this question to death, and finally read every
one of the entries in the cygwin-licensing mailing list, but just can't
seem to find my  exact case.

	I am wondering if we could just install Cygwin on to the PCs we
ship as part of a larger system so that we can use the NFS server. We
need NFS because another part of the system is Linux based (diskless)
and needs to connect to the Windows host.
	We don't compile anything against Cygwin, we just would run
nfsd, portmap, and mountd.
	Would we be legal to ship these systems with Cygwin preinstalled
on them?

							Thanks,
							Steve





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* Re: YA Licensing question
  2008-12-03 14:57 YA Licensing question Steve Duquette
@ 2008-12-03 15:46 ` Corinna Vinschen
  2008-12-03 19:04   ` Christopher Faylor
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2008-12-03 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-licensing; +Cc: Steve Duquette


Disclaimer:  I'm not a lawyer.  If you want to be on the safe side
license-wise, consider to ask a lawyer specialized in software
licensing questions for legal advice.

Having said that...

On Dec  3 09:42, Steve Duquette wrote:
> Hi,
> 	I have looked through your FAQ's, read the GPL at least a
> thousand times, Googled this question to death, and finally read every
> one of the entries in the cygwin-licensing mailing list, but just can't
> seem to find my  exact case.
> 
> 	I am wondering if we could just install Cygwin on to the PCs we
> ship as part of a larger system so that we can use the NFS server. We
> need NFS because another part of the system is Linux based (diskless)
> and needs to connect to the Windows host.

Why don't you just use the SMB client which is usually part of the Linux
kernel anyway?  This allows to connect to Windows machines without the
requirement to install Cygwin and an NFS client on the Windows side.

You don't have to reply to this question, it's just a hint that there
are other, simpler solutions available.

> 	We don't compile anything against Cygwin, we just would run
> nfsd, portmap, and mountd.
> 	Would we be legal to ship these systems with Cygwin preinstalled
> on them?

If you're installing Cygwin only to run other OSS software, like the NFS
server, you're fine, *iff* you ship the source code of the Cygwin tools
to your customers as well.  It's definitely *not* enough to point them
to the Cygwin homepage.  By shipping GPL software you're responsible to
provide your customer with the exact sources needed to rebuild the GPLed
software.


Corinna


-- 
Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Project Co-Leader          cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Red Hat

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* Re: YA Licensing question
  2008-12-03 15:46 ` Corinna Vinschen
@ 2008-12-03 19:04   ` Christopher Faylor
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Faylor @ 2008-12-03 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-licensing

On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 04:27:42PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>
>Disclaimer:  I'm not a lawyer.  If you want to be on the safe side
>license-wise, consider to ask a lawyer specialized in software
>licensing questions for legal advice.

Ditto.  So, you really should not rely on opinions in a mailing list as
a basis for a company decision.

>Having said that...
>
>On Dec  3 09:42, Steve Duquette wrote:
>>I have looked through your FAQ's, read the GPL at least a thousand
>>times, Googled this question to death, and finally read every one of
>>the entries in the cygwin-licensing mailing list, but just can't seem
>>to find my exact case.
>>
>>I am wondering if we could just install Cygwin on to the PCs we ship as
>>part of a larger system so that we can use the NFS server.  We need NFS
>>because another part of the system is Linux based (diskless) and needs
>>to connect to the Windows host.

The reason that you need to distribute things is, of course, irrelevant
and has no bearing on the GPL.

>Why don't you just use the SMB client which is usually part of the
>Linux kernel anyway?  This allows to connect to Windows machines
>without the requirement to install Cygwin and an NFS client on the
>Windows side.

Good question.

>You don't have to reply to this question, it's just a hint that there
>are other, simpler solutions available.
>
>>We don't compile anything against Cygwin, we just would run nfsd,
>>portmap, and mountd.  Would we be legal to ship these systems with
>>Cygwin preinstalled on them?
>
>If you're installing Cygwin only to run other OSS software, like the
>NFS server, you're fine, *iff* you ship the source code of the Cygwin
>tools to your customers as well.  It's definitely *not* enough to point
>them to the Cygwin homepage.  By shipping GPL software you're
>responsible to provide your customer with the exact sources needed to
>rebuild the GPLed software.

Right and remember that "Cygwin tools" includes source code for the
cygwin DLL and any other DLLs that are required to run the tools.

This is basic GPL and it makes me wonder how you could have missed this
if you did the research that you claim to have done.  You provide source
code to any binaries that you distribute.  It's pretty simple.

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