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From: Jon Turney <jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk>
To: Cygwin Patches <cygwin-patches@cygwin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Add more winsymlinks values
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:53:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0b2f3506-b5f8-5e73-b92f-62583dbd4fdb@dronecode.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YPfYgz0EHe7Yw5ko@calimero.vinschen.de>

On 21/07/2021 09:19, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Jul 19 17:31, Jon Turney wrote:
>> I'm not sure this is the best idea, since it adds more configurations that
>> aren't going to get tested often, but the idea is that this would enable
>> proper and consistent control of the symlink type used from setup, as
>> discussed in [1].
>>
>> [1] https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-apps/2021-May/041327.html
> 
> Why isn't it sufficient to use 'winsymlinks:native' from setup?

I think in the default Windows configuration (developer mode off, no 
SeCreateSymbolicLinkPrivilege), 'native' will try to create a native 
symlink and fail, and fallback to WSL IO_REPARSE_TAG_LX_SYMLINK reparse 
point, then magic cookie + sys attribute.

This leads to cygwin installations with WSL symlinks created by 
post-install scripts, which can't be put into Docker containers [1], 
which is the original problem I was trying to fix.

[1] https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/2020-August/245994.html

I haven't yet looked at adding 'native' symlink support to setup itself, 
but it's probably going to be a bit of a pain.

> The way we express symlinks shouldn't be a user choice, really.  The
> winsymlinks thingy was only ever introduced in a desperate attempt to
> improve access to symlinks from native tools, and I still don't see a
> way around that.  But either way, what's the advantage in allowing the
> user complete control over the type, even if the type is only useful in
> Cygwin?
  If we can come up with a fixed policy that works everywhere, there is 
no advantage.  But that seems unlikely :)

I could buy an argument that 'native' should be the default (although 
maybe all that does is slow things down in the majority of installs?).


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-22 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-19 16:31 Jon Turney
2021-07-19 16:31 ` [PATCH 1/3] Rename WSYM_sysfile to WSM_default Jon Turney
2021-07-19 16:31 ` [PATCH 2/3] Add winsymlinks:magic Jon Turney
2021-07-19 16:31 ` [PATCH 3/3] Add winsymlinks:wslstrict Jon Turney
2021-07-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 0/3] Add more winsymlinks values Corinna Vinschen
2021-07-21 10:24   ` Christian Franke
2021-07-22  8:03     ` Corinna Vinschen
2021-07-22 13:53   ` Jon Turney [this message]
2021-07-22 14:21     ` Corinna Vinschen
2021-07-28 19:55       ` Jon Turney
2021-07-29 10:23         ` Corinna Vinschen
2021-07-29 10:40           ` Corinna Vinschen

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