From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from conssluserg-02.nifty.com (conssluserg-02.nifty.com [210.131.2.81]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E449B3890417 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 11:40:55 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org E449B3890417 Received: from Express5800-S70 (x067108.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [122.249.67.108]) (authenticated) by conssluserg-02.nifty.com with ESMTP id 10MBeP34029637 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 20:40:25 +0900 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 conssluserg-02.nifty.com 10MBeP34029637 X-Nifty-SrcIP: [122.249.67.108] Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 20:40:26 +0900 From: Takashi Yano To: cygwin-patches@cygwin.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Improve pseudo console support. Message-Id: <20210122204026.06a4ef5454034b4de6a52291@nifty.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <20210122095028.GC810271@calimero.vinschen.de> References: <20210121205852.536-1-takashi.yano@nifty.ne.jp> <20210122095028.GC810271@calimero.vinschen.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin-patches@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Cygwin core component patch submission and discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 11:40:59 -0000 On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:50:28 +0100 Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jan 22 05:58, Takashi Yano via Cygwin-patches wrote: > > The new implementation of pseudo console support by commit bb428520 > > provides the important advantages, while there also has been several > > disadvantages compared to the previous implementation. > > > > These patches overturn some of them. > > > > The disadvantage: > > 1) The cygwin program which calls console API directly does not work. > > is supposed to be able to be overcome as well, however, I am not sure > > it is worth enough. This will need a lot of hooks for console APIs. > > Definitely not. We should really not cave in to such expectations. > Cygwin apps are POSIX apps in the first place and should use the API > provided by Cygwin and other Cygwin libs. Yes, there are border cases > like the X server or cygrunsrv, but these are limited and should stay > limited. I agree. I will stop working on it. -- Takashi Yano