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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: cygwin-patches@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 16:16:21 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <66o0nq89-4599-np26-625n-2n8oon6p558q@tzk.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1Z48Mdk79/Qtwc9@calimero.vinschen.de>

Hi Corinna,

On Mon, 24 Oct 2022, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

> On Oct 23 23:04, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Oct 2022, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > [...]
> > > That means, the results from the "env" method is equivalent to the
> > > "windows" method, just after checking $HOME.  That's a bit of a downer.
> > >
> > > Assuming the "env" method would *only* check for $HOME, the user would
> > > have the same result by simply setting nsswitch.conf accordingly:
> > >
> > >   home: env windows
> >
> > Except when the domain controller is (temporarily) unreachable, e.g. when
> > sitting in a train with poor or no internet connection. Then that latter
> > approach would have the "benefit" of having to wait 10-15 seconds before
> > the network call says "nope".
> >
> > This particular issue has hit enough Git for Windows users that I found
> > myself being forced to implement these patches and run with them for the
> > past seven years.
> >
> > Given the scenario of an unreachable domain controller, I hope you agree
> > that the `env` support added in the proposed patches _has_ merit.
>
> Yes, I don't doubt an `env' method checking for $HOME even a bit.

Cool!

> I'm just not sure as far as HOMEDRIVE/HOMEPATH/USERPROFILE are
> concerned.  Those vars should be left alone, but we can't control that,
> so reading them from genuine sources is preferred.

I do not recall the exact reasons because it has been a good while since I
worked on these patches. But I do remember that we had to have a fall-back
for the many scenarios in Git for Windows where `HOME` is not even set,
and we specifically had to add HOMEDRIVE/HOMEPATH handling because
USERPROFILE alone would lead to problems (IIRC there were plenty of
corporate setups where USERPROFILE pointed to a potentially-disconnected
network drive).

> Sure, the downside in terms of the LDAP server is clear to me
>
> So I guess it's ok to allow the env method to read the values of those
> vars from the env.  I would just feel better if we urge the
> user to set $HOME and read that exclusively.

I would feel better about that, too, if it was practical.

But I cannot ask millions of Git for Windows users to please go ahead and
first configure their `HOME` variable correctly, it took much less time to
implement the patch we're discussing than asking all users individually
;-)

And since there is nothing specific about Git for Windows here, I expect
Cygwin users to benefit from this feature, too.

With this context in mind, I would like to ask to integrate the patch
as-is, including the HOMEDRIVE/HOMEPATH and USERPROFILE fall-backs.

Thanks,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-10 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-16 13:06 [PATCH] Allow overriding the " Johannes Schindelin
2015-10-21 18:32 ` Corinna Vinschen
2015-10-22 15:38   ` Johannes Schindelin
2015-10-23  9:10     ` Corinna Vinschen
2015-10-23  9:41       ` Corinna Vinschen
2015-10-23 12:00         ` Johannes Schindelin
2015-12-17 18:05 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Johannes Schindelin
2015-12-17 18:05   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] Respect `db_home` setting even for the SYSTEM account Johannes Schindelin
2015-12-17 20:49     ` Corinna Vinschen
2015-12-17 21:02       ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-09-21 12:00       ` Johannes Schindelin
2015-12-17 18:05   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable Johannes Schindelin
2015-12-17 20:20     ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-09-21 11:58       ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-10-18 17:02         ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-10-23 21:04           ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-10-24 11:37             ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-11-10 15:16               ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2022-11-10 15:22                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-11-18  8:18                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-21 11:41                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-03-28  8:21                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-09-21 11:51   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Johannes Schindelin
2022-09-21 11:51     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable Johannes Schindelin
2022-09-21 11:52     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] Respect `db_home` setting even for SYSTEM/Microsoft accounts Johannes Schindelin
2022-09-21 11:52     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] Respect `db_home: env` even when no uid can be determined Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28  8:17     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28  8:17       ` [PATCH v4 1/3] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28 10:35         ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-03-28 12:34           ` Jon Turney
2023-03-28 13:31             ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-03-29  8:36               ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-03  6:39                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28  8:17       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] Respect `db_home` setting even for SYSTEM/Microsoft accounts Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28 10:16         ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-03  6:36           ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 10:59             ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-03 13:32               ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28  8:17       ` [PATCH v4 3/3] Respect `db_home: env` even when no uid can be determined Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28 10:17         ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-03  6:45           ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 13:12             ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 13:29               ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-03 13:57                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 19:23                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-04 15:11                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 13:19             ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 14:44       ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 14:44         ` [PATCH v5 1/3] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 18:36           ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-04 15:12             ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 14:45         ` [PATCH v5 2/3] Respect `db_home` setting even for SYSTEM/Microsoft accounts Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 18:37           ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-04 15:12             ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 14:45         ` [PATCH v5 3/3] Respect `db_home: env` even when no uid can be determined Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-04 15:07         ` [PATCH v6 0/4] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-04 15:07           ` [PATCH v6 1/4] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-04 15:07           ` [PATCH v6 2/4] Respect `db_home` setting even for SYSTEM/Microsoft accounts Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-04 15:07           ` [PATCH v6 3/4] uinfo: special-case IIS APPPOOL accounts Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-04 15:07           ` [PATCH v6 4/4] Do not rely on `getenv ("HOME")`'s path conversion Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-06  8:37             ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-06  9:54               ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-06 10:28                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-05-22 11:12           ` [PATCH v7 0/4] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Johannes Schindelin
2023-05-22 11:12             ` [PATCH v7 1/4] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable Johannes Schindelin
2023-05-22 11:12             ` [PATCH v7 2/4] Respect `db_home` setting even for SYSTEM/Microsoft accounts Johannes Schindelin
2023-05-22 11:12             ` [PATCH v7 3/4] uinfo: special-case IIS APPPOOL accounts Johannes Schindelin
2023-05-22 11:13             ` [PATCH v7 4/4] Do not rely on `getenv ("HOME")`'s path conversion Johannes Schindelin
2023-06-06 13:33             ` [PATCH v7 0/4] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Corinna Vinschen

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