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From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin-patches@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] Cygwin: Make 'ulimit -c' control writing a coredump
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 12:52:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZbOc7C_3qSfjlT6x@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZbOTpaBfEZwAkxcf@calimero.vinschen.de>

On Jan 26 12:12, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Jan 25 20:03, Jon Turney wrote:
> > On 25/01/2024 18:21, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > > On Jan 25 14:50, Jon Turney wrote:
> > > > On 24/01/2024 14:39, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > > > > On Jan 24 13:28, Jon Turney wrote:
> > > > > > On 23/01/2024 14:29, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > > > > > > On Jan 23 14:20, Jon Turney wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > So this situation with a JIT debugger is even stranger than my emendations
> > > > to the documentation say.
> > > > 
> > > > Because we're hitting try_to_debug() in exception::handle(), which has some
> > > > code to replay the exception via ExceptionContinueExecution (which I guess
> > > > the debugger will catch as a first-chance) (and goes into a mode where it
> > > > ignores the next half-million exceptions... no idea what that's about!)
> > > > 
> > > > That's not the same as signal_exit() with a coredumping signal (haven't
> > > > checked if those are all generated from exceptions, but seems probable, so
> > > > the try_to_debug() there maybe isn't doing anything?), where we're going to
> > > > exit thereafter.
> > > 
> > > try_to_debug() is only calling IsDebuggerPresent() as test, and that's
> > > nothing but a flag in the PEB which is set by the OS after a debugger
> > > attached to the process.  So the test is by definition extremely
> > > flaky, if the debugger is connecting and disconnecting, as you
> > > already pointed out.
> > > 
> > > I'm wondering if we can't define our own way to attach to a process,
> > > allowing to "WaitForDebugger" as long as the debugger is a Cygwin
> > > debugger.  If we define a matching function (along the lines of
> > > prctl(2) on Linux), we could change our debuggers, core dumpers
> > > and stracers to call this attach function.
> > > 
> > > The idea would be to define some shared mutex object, the inferior
> > > waits for and the debugger releases after having attached.
> > > 
> > > Is there really any need to support non-Cygwin debuggers?
> > 
> > idk
> > 
> > I think something like that used to exist a long time ago, see commit
> > 8abeff1ead5f3824c70111bc0ff74ff835dafa55
> 
> Yeah, just, as was the default at the time, without any trace of a
> *rational* why it has been removed.  Also, it was too simple anyway.
> 
> First, if we want to support WIndows debugger, the inferior has to check
> if the debugger is a Cygwin or native debugger.  If a native debugger,
> just stick to what we have today.  Otherwise:
> 
> - Create a named mutex with a reproducible name (no need to use
>   the name as parameter) and immediately grab it.
> - Call CreateProcess to start the debugger with CREATE_SUSPENDED
>   flag.
> - Create a HANDLE array with the mutex and the process HANDLE.

    On second thought, it might be a good idea to make this
    interruptible as well, but given this is called from the
    exception handler this may have weird results...
 
> - Call ResumeThread on the primary debugger thread.
> - Call WFMO with timeout.
> 
> Later on, the debugger either fails and exits or it calls
> ReleaseMutex after having attached to the process.
> 
> - WFMO returns
> - If the mutex has triggered, we're being debugged (but check
>   IsDebuggerPresent() just to be sure)
> - If the process has triggered, the debugger exited
> - If the timeout triggers... oh well.

Corinna

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-26 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-12 14:09 [PATCH 0/5] Coredump under 'ulimit -c' control (v2) Jon Turney
2024-01-12 14:09 ` [PATCH 1/5] Cygwin: Make 'ulimit -c' control writing a coredump Jon Turney
2024-01-13 14:20   ` Jon Turney
2024-01-15  9:46     ` Corinna Vinschen
2024-01-15 13:27       ` Jon Turney
2024-01-15 14:28         ` Corinna Vinschen
2024-01-16 13:52           ` Jon Turney
2024-01-16 13:54             ` Corinna Vinschen
2024-01-23 14:20   ` Jon Turney
2024-01-23 14:29     ` Corinna Vinschen
2024-01-24 13:28       ` Jon Turney
2024-01-24 14:39         ` Corinna Vinschen
2024-01-25 14:50           ` Jon Turney
2024-01-25 18:21             ` Corinna Vinschen
2024-01-25 20:03               ` Jon Turney
2024-01-26 11:12                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2024-01-26 11:52                   ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]
2024-01-27 15:12                     ` Jon Turney
2024-01-29 11:16                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2024-01-12 14:09 ` [PATCH 2/5] Cygwin: Disable writing core dumps by default Jon Turney
2024-01-12 14:09 ` [PATCH 3/5] Cygwin: Define and use __WCOREFLAG Jon Turney
2024-01-12 14:09 ` [PATCH 4/5] Cygwin: Treat api_fatal() similarly to a core-dumping signal Jon Turney
2024-01-12 14:09 ` [PATCH 5/5] Cygwin: Update documentation for cygwin_stackdump Jon Turney
2024-01-12 18:44   ` Corinna Vinschen
2024-01-13 13:40     ` Jon Turney
2024-01-12 18:41 ` [PATCH 0/5] Coredump under 'ulimit -c' control (v2) Corinna Vinschen

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