From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
Cc: cygwin-patches@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 09:18:17 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <qn135110-43r6-o86o-887o-1rn29574s263@tzk.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y20XK4VybCriMmn/@calimero.vinschen.de>
Hi Corinna,
On Thu, 10 Nov 2022, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Nov 10 16:16, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 24 Oct 2022, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >
> > > On Oct 23 23:04, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 18 Oct 2022, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > > That means, the results from the "env" method is equivalent to the
> > > > > "windows" method, just after checking $HOME. That's a bit of a downer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Assuming the "env" method would *only* check for $HOME, the user would
> > > > > have the same result by simply setting nsswitch.conf accordingly:
> > > > >
> > > > > home: env windows
> > > >
> > > > Except when the domain controller is (temporarily) unreachable, e.g. when
> > > > sitting in a train with poor or no internet connection. Then that latter
> > > > approach would have the "benefit" of having to wait 10-15 seconds before
> > > > the network call says "nope".
> > > >
> > > > This particular issue has hit enough Git for Windows users that I found
> > > > myself being forced to implement these patches and run with them for the
> > > > past seven years.
> > > >
> > > > Given the scenario of an unreachable domain controller, I hope you agree
> > > > that the `env` support added in the proposed patches _has_ merit.
> > >
> > > Yes, I don't doubt an `env' method checking for $HOME even a bit.
> >
> > Cool!
> >
> > > I'm just not sure as far as HOMEDRIVE/HOMEPATH/USERPROFILE are
> > > concerned. Those vars should be left alone, but we can't control that,
> > > so reading them from genuine sources is preferred.
> >
> > I do not recall the exact reasons because it has been a good while since I
> > worked on these patches. But I do remember that we had to have a fall-back
> > for the many scenarios in Git for Windows where `HOME` is not even set,
> > and we specifically had to add HOMEDRIVE/HOMEPATH handling because
> > USERPROFILE alone would lead to problems (IIRC there were plenty of
> > corporate setups where USERPROFILE pointed to a potentially-disconnected
> > network drive).
> >
> > > Sure, the downside in terms of the LDAP server is clear to me
> > >
> > > So I guess it's ok to allow the env method to read the values of those
> > > vars from the env. I would just feel better if we urge the
> > > user to set $HOME and read that exclusively.
> >
> > I would feel better about that, too, if it was practical.
> >
> > But I cannot ask millions of Git for Windows users to please go ahead and
> > first configure their `HOME` variable correctly, it took much less time to
> > implement the patch we're discussing than asking all users individually
> > ;-)
> >
> > And since there is nothing specific about Git for Windows here, I expect
> > Cygwin users to benefit from this feature, too.
> >
> > With this context in mind, I would like to ask to integrate the patch
> > as-is, including the HOMEDRIVE/HOMEPATH and USERPROFILE fall-backs.
>
> Can't do that, sorry. Two replies before I sent a necessary change,
> which needs inclusion first.
I am a bit confused. Do you need anything from me to move this along, i.e.
are those two replies you mention some emails I failed to address yet?
Thanks,
Dscho
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-18 8:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-16 13:06 [PATCH] Allow overriding the " Johannes Schindelin
2015-10-21 18:32 ` Corinna Vinschen
2015-10-22 15:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2015-10-23 9:10 ` Corinna Vinschen
2015-10-23 9:41 ` Corinna Vinschen
2015-10-23 12:00 ` Johannes Schindelin
2015-12-17 18:05 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Johannes Schindelin
2015-12-17 18:05 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] Respect `db_home` setting even for the SYSTEM account Johannes Schindelin
2015-12-17 20:49 ` Corinna Vinschen
2015-12-17 21:02 ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-09-21 12:00 ` Johannes Schindelin
2015-12-17 18:05 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable Johannes Schindelin
2015-12-17 20:20 ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-09-21 11:58 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-10-18 17:02 ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-10-23 21:04 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-10-24 11:37 ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-11-10 15:16 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-10 15:22 ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-11-18 8:18 ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2022-11-21 11:41 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-03-28 8:21 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-09-21 11:51 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Johannes Schindelin
2022-09-21 11:51 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable Johannes Schindelin
2022-09-21 11:52 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] Respect `db_home` setting even for SYSTEM/Microsoft accounts Johannes Schindelin
2022-09-21 11:52 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] Respect `db_home: env` even when no uid can be determined Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28 8:17 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28 8:17 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28 10:35 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-03-28 12:34 ` Jon Turney
2023-03-28 13:31 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-03-29 8:36 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-03 6:39 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28 8:17 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] Respect `db_home` setting even for SYSTEM/Microsoft accounts Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28 10:16 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-03 6:36 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 10:59 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-03 13:32 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28 8:17 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] Respect `db_home: env` even when no uid can be determined Johannes Schindelin
2023-03-28 10:17 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-03 6:45 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 13:12 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 13:29 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-03 13:57 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 19:23 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-04 15:11 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 13:19 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 14:44 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 14:44 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 18:36 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-04 15:12 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] Respect `db_home` setting even for SYSTEM/Microsoft accounts Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 18:37 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-04 15:12 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-03 14:45 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] Respect `db_home: env` even when no uid can be determined Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-04 15:07 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-04 15:07 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-04 15:07 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] Respect `db_home` setting even for SYSTEM/Microsoft accounts Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-04 15:07 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] uinfo: special-case IIS APPPOOL accounts Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-04 15:07 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] Do not rely on `getenv ("HOME")`'s path conversion Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-06 8:37 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-06 9:54 ` Johannes Schindelin
2023-04-06 10:28 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-05-22 11:12 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Johannes Schindelin
2023-05-22 11:12 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] Allow deriving the current user's home directory via the HOME variable Johannes Schindelin
2023-05-22 11:12 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] Respect `db_home` setting even for SYSTEM/Microsoft accounts Johannes Schindelin
2023-05-22 11:12 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] uinfo: special-case IIS APPPOOL accounts Johannes Schindelin
2023-05-22 11:13 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] Do not rely on `getenv ("HOME")`'s path conversion Johannes Schindelin
2023-06-06 13:33 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] Support deriving the current user's home directory via HOME Corinna Vinschen
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