From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19001 invoked by alias); 19 Apr 2006 13:46:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 18993 invoked by uid 22791); 19 Apr 2006 13:46:07 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mail.artimi.com (HELO mail.artimi.com) (217.40.213.68) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:46:05 +0000 Received: from mail.artimi.com ([192.168.1.3]) by mail.artimi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:46:01 +0100 Received: from rainbow ([192.168.1.165]) by mail.artimi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:45:59 +0100 From: "Dave Korn" To: "'he's with those guys'" Subject: RE: FW: cygwin-1.dll long-time bug Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:46:00 -0000 Message-ID: <00cc01c663b7$97d9dbc0$a501a8c0@CAM.ARTIMI.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Mailing-List: contact cygwin-talk-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-talk-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: The Cygwin-Talk Malingering List X-SW-Source: 2006-q2/txt/msg00080.txt.bz2 On 19 April 2006 13:59, Igor Peshansky wrote: > On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, Dave Korn wrote: > >> On 19 April 2006 04:44, Eric Blake wrote: >> >>> According to Dave Korn on 4/18/2006 12:38 PM: >>> >>>> [snip] >>>> in microsoft's QA dept.... ;) >>> >>> They have one? What are the job qualifications to become a member of that >>> dept, I wonder? I bet even a hippo could apply... >> >> Yes, actually! Most of their testing is done by dropping hippos on >> software and seeing what happens. Usually it breaks. >> Then they ship it! > > This reminds me of the actual testing DEC did for PDP-8 and PDP-11 > machines: they dropped a machine on the concrete floor from a height of > precisely 2 meters while it was performing some computation. If it > continued working at that point and produced correct results, they shipped > it. Eerie, isn't it? That's a great technique, I can highly recommend it. Back when I was in school, we used to test the RM380Zs by dropping them out of first-floor windows. Usually they broke the concrete when they hit, not themselves. > Oh, and in the words of ESR: "software is largely a service industry > operating under the persistent but unfounded delusion that it is a > manufacturing industry". Just seemed relevant here, somehow... :-) Yeh, but then again, also in the words of ESR: "I will find a way to make you regret it. Watch your step" ;) http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/bruce-perens-dead cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today....