From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24934 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 2006 20:46:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 24924 invoked by uid 22791); 16 Aug 2006 20:46:11 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from pool-71-248-179-229.bstnma.fios.verizon.net (HELO cgf.cx) (71.248.179.229) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:46:09 +0000 Received: by cgf.cx (Postfix, from userid 201) id 6C0E013C042; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:46:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: The Cygwin-Talk Maiming List Subject: Re: change in behavior of make from 3.80 to 3.81 Message-ID: <20060816204607.GA9631@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: The Cygwin-Talk Maiming List References: <6.2.3.4.2.20060815151104.0b40e260@pop.nycap.rr.com> <01b901c6c116$21259430$a501a8c0@CAM.ARTIMI.COM> <6.2.3.4.2.20060816091525.0ab90af0@pop.nycap.rr.com> <20060816144110.GX20467@calimero.vinschen.de> <20060816174406.GA7538@brasko.net> <20060816180659.GA5064@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> <20060816181709.GB7538@brasko.net> <20060816200428.GA27256@calimero.vinschen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-talk-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-talk-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: The Cygwin-Talk Maiming List X-SW-Source: 2006-q3/txt/msg00198.txt.bz2 On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 03:40:12PM -0500, mwoehlke wrote: >Just to jump over to the other side here for a second... I assume you >don't intend to ever make it /impossible/ to run DOS tools on Cygwin? >That IMO *would* be unacceptable and unrealistic. But, of course, >that's what interface tools - like cygpath - are for. IOW, the ability >to offer a "pure POSIX" environment is good, as long as it does not >preclude any communication whatsoever (no matter how clunky) with >Windows. No, we will always have some way of running and communicating with MS-DOS filenames. One thing I just added to cygwin recently is a warning which shows up the first time you use a MS-DOS path, though. I am expecting that to be very popular! >I think I've made my position on the 'make' decision known; I have >absolutely no problems with it, and I support it. Just as long as I can >still pipe between DOS and Cygwin applications(*), share file systems, >and have something like 'cygpath', Cygwin can (and should) be as >POSIX-like as it wants. :-) Pipes between MS-DOS programs and Cygwin programs is actually one of the things that is a little tricky but it is not slated to go away. cgf