From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24760 invoked by alias); 30 Mar 2007 12:52:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 24742 invoked by uid 22791); 30 Mar 2007 12:52:03 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from pool-71-248-179-87.bstnma.fios.verizon.net (HELO cgf.cx) (71.248.179.87) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:51:53 +0100 Received: by cgf.cx (Postfix, from userid 201) id DF9D23B0002; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:52:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: The Cygwin-Talk Maiming List Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Upset Message-ID: <20070330125151.GB22243@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: The Cygwin-Talk Maiming List References: <20050908234849.68642.qmail@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <460CADAB.2020301@x-ray.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <460CADAB.2020301@x-ray.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-talk-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-talk-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: The Cygwin-Talk Maiming List X-SW-Source: 2007-q1/txt/msg00295.txt.bz2 On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 08:26:51AM +0200, Reini Urban wrote: >James R. Phillips schrieb: >>--- Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >> >>>Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:07:10 -0400 (EDT) >>>From: Igor Pechtchanski >>>To: "James R. Phillips" >>>CC: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com >>>Subject: Re: Upset (was Re: [ITP] libmad/libmad0/libmad-devel: A >>>high-quality >>>MPEG audio decoder >>> >>>On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, James R. Phillips wrote: >>> >>>>--- Charles Wilson wrote: >>>> >>>>>Side note: I often use an old copy of upset to generate setup.ini's for >>>>>my locally built packages which I store in a cygwin/release tree on my >>>>>private server, and add that URI to my setup.exe's URI list. I once >>>>>advocated ("RFD: A modest proposal #2: unsupported" >>>>>http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-04/msg00306.html) having an >>>>>'unsupported' tree on the official mirrors similar to the existing >>>>>'release' tree but that was shot down for good reason. IIRC at some >>>>>point in the discussion it was pointed out that the existing >>>>>functionality in setup was sufficient to solve the problem I described, >>>>>and much more flexible, and did not require official sanction from the >>>>>cygwin mirror system. >>>>How nice for you, and other long-time cygwin developers/packagers that >>>>have been grandfathered into this arrangement, because you downloaded >>>>upset when it was available, which it is not now, thus reducing the >>>>testability and quality of packages built by those not having this >>>>resource. It must be wonderful to have powerful tools like this - kind >>>>of like having unix available in windows. >>>I've asked this before, and didn't quite understand the rationale for >>>pulling upset from CVS (I *could* understand not accepting patches for it, >>>and vetoing attempts to add it to the distribution). Upset is a tool that >>>lets others generate external mirrors with their own packages; keeping it >>>on sourceware essentially guarantees that those mirrors will have the >>>format compatible with setup.exe. Perhaps we could bring it back as a >>>tool to aid packagers, with the comment at the top that it's not to be >>>changed or released by anyone except CGF? >>> >>>FWIW, googling for "cygwin setup upset" brings up two versions: Yaakov's >>>(at cygwin-ports.sourceforge.net), and Reini's (at xarch.tu-graz.ac.at). >>>HTH, >>> Igor >>>-- >> >>Both these sites look interesting, and are probably of interest to a wider >>audience. I only find a version of upset at xarch.tu-graz.ac.at. > >This is not a good version. I still keep it because I use it to >crosscheck, but the official genini is better. Mine has some mksetup >helper. Why are you responding to a 1.5 year old message? cgf