Re: snapshots revisited

Re: snapshots revisited

[Christopher Faylor]

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 07:38:51AM -0800, Karl M wrote:
>And I always thought of the two of you as the responsible adults on
>this list.  :=)
>
>But for all the work you two do to make Cygwin what it is, I can only say thanks. 		 	   		

Thanks for the thanks.

Your message brightened my bad day at the end of a bad week.

And, sadly enough, I really am a responsible adult.  When did that happen?

Re: snapshots revisited

[David Eisner]

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Karl M <karlm30@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:20:12AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> >On Mar 10 18:25, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:24:24PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> >> >On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:13:53AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> >> >>On Mar 10 08:09, EXCOFFIER Denis wrote:
>> >> >>>Also that you replace GMT by UT in this snapshot page.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I guess you mean UTC. Good point. Chris?
>> >> >
>> >> >No comment. I *have*, however, filed this under "Nitpicky things that I
>> >> >can't believe anyone would send email to a mailing list about."
>> >>
>> >> Actually, apologies. I guess the above is a comment.
>> >
>> >Actually, yes, it's one of these unnecessary comments which only purpose
>> >is to kick peoples asses. Therefore it belongs to the cygwin-talk list
>> >or to /dev/null.
>>
>> Wow. Yeah, like this message, for instance. This message could also even
>> have been sent as a a polite personal note from a codeveloper.
>>
> And I always thought of the two of you as the responsible adults on this list. :=)


Here's my theory.  Chris was making a snarky comment about the
original poster's s/GMT/UT/ comment.  But Corrina interpreted this as
a comment about *her* s/UT/UTC/ comment, and responded to Chris in the
same spirit.  They usually (always?) treat each other with respect
(and in fact Corrina is polite to list members in general, which is
appreciated.)

-David

-- 
David Eisner     http://cradle.brokenglass.com

Re: snapshots revisited

[Andy Koppe]

On 11 March 2011 16:12, David Eisner wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Karl M wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:20:12AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>>> >On Mar 10 18:25, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:24:24PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>> >> >On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:13:53AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>>> >> >>On Mar 10 08:09, EXCOFFIER Denis wrote:
>>> >> >>>Also that you replace GMT by UT in this snapshot page.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>I guess you mean UTC. Good point. Chris?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >No comment. I *have*, however, filed this under "Nitpicky things that I
>>> >> >can't believe anyone would send email to a mailing list about."
>>> >>
>>> >> Actually, apologies. I guess the above is a comment.
>>> >
>>> >Actually, yes, it's one of these unnecessary comments which only purpose
>>> >is to kick peoples asses. Therefore it belongs to the cygwin-talk list
>>> >or to /dev/null.
>>>
>>> Wow. Yeah, like this message, for instance. This message could also even
>>> have been sent as a a polite personal note from a codeveloper.
>>>
>> And I always thought of the two of you as the responsible adults on this list. :=)
>
>
> Here's my theory.  Chris was making a snarky comment about the
> original poster's s/GMT/UT/ comment.  But Corrina interpreted this as
> a comment about *her* s/UT/UTC/ comment, and responded to Chris in the
> same spirit.  They usually (always?) treat each other with respect
> (and in fact Corrina is polite to list members in general, which is
> appreciated.)

Please let the matter rest now and go back to testing snapshots.

Andy

Re: snapshots revisited

[Christopher Faylor]

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 04:17:55PM +0000, Andy Koppe wrote:
>Please let the matter rest now and go back to testing snapshots.

Actually, not to be technical in cygwin-talk but the last problem I
found with the pipe code is, so-far, a show-stopper.  This is, I think,
the first time I've seen a Windows function somewhat succeed but still
return an error code.  I don't know how to deal with that yet.

cgf

RE: snapshots revisited

[Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]]

David Eisner sent the following at Friday, March 11, 2011 11:13 AM
>Here's my theory.  Chris was making a snarky comment

I don't know about anyone else, but I'll share how Chris's "style"
affects me.

I don't want to be the target of his (or anyone else's) ire.
Therefore, before hitting send, I carefully and critically review
my email to make sure that it is polite, respectful, unpresumptuous,
and thankful.  That is something that everyone should do anyway, but
Chris adds an incentive.

Think about it.  Every request is wrapped around a complaint.
"Please pass the water."  ("Why are you keeping the water over
there where I can't @#$%^ get it!")  So when people make an
effort to avoid triggering a reaction from Chris, the overall
tone of the list improves.  And when they don't, they shouldn't
complain about something that could have easily been avoided.

(However, I admit that appreciation of Chris's style is an acquired
taste.)

>Corrina is polite to list members in general, which is
>appreciated.)

Look at it this way.  Averaging Corinna's constant politeness with
Chris's curmudgeonliness yields a pleasant ambiance.

And if reading some snarky retorts is the price one pays for getting
free help with a great product (also free), we still are getting a
bargain.  If one wants support provided by Corinna and not Chris, I
suspect that arrangements can be made with Red Hat.  :-)

- Barry
  Disclaimer: Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID.

Re: snapshots revisited

[Lee D. Rothstein]

On 3/11/2011 11:27 PM, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
> David Eisner sent the following at Friday, March 11, 2011 11:13 AM
>> Here's my theory.  Chris was making a snarky comment
> I don't know about anyone else, but I'll share how Chris's "style"
> affects me.
>
> I don't want to be the target of his (or anyone else's) ire.
> Therefore, before hitting send, I carefully and critically review
> my email to make sure that it is polite, respectful, unpresumptuous,
> and thankful.  That is something that everyone should do anyway, but
> Chris adds an incentive.
>
> Think about it.  Every request is wrapped around a complaint.
> "Please pass the water."  ("Why are you keeping the water over
> there where I can't @#$%^ get it!")  So when people make an
> effort to avoid triggering a reaction from Chris, the overall
> tone of the list improves.  And when they don't, they shouldn't
> complain about something that could have easily been avoided.
>
> (However, I admit that appreciation of Chris's style is an acquired
> taste.)
>
>> Corrina is polite to list members in general, which is
>> appreciated.)
> Look at it this way.  Averaging Corinna's constant politeness with
> Chris's curmudgeonliness yields a pleasant ambiance.
>
> And if reading some snarky retorts is the price one pays for getting
> free help with a great product (also free), we still are getting a
> bargain.  If one wants support provided by Corinna and not Chris, I
> suspect that arrangements can be made with Red Hat.  :-)
>
> - Barry
>    Disclaimer: Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID
Thank you for saying everything you said, exactly the way you said it, 
and oh yes:

Amen!

(Moreover, my own "performance" is likely chastened by this gentle 
reminder. ;-|)

Nonetheless, Barry is to be chastised for failing to live up to the low 
standards of
the title of this mail list. ;-)

Lee

Re: snapshots revisited

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Mar 11 11:12, David Eisner wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:24:24PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >> >> >On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:13:53AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >> >> >>[...]
> Here's my theory.  [...]
>   But Corrina interpreted this as

*sob*  s/rrin/rinn/

Note: I'm not accidentally writing my own name with 1 r and 2 n.

Somehow I don't get it why so many people mistype my name.
Oh hippos, what have I done to you!


Corinna
^^^^^^^
Yes, really!

Re: snapshots revisited

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 06:40:45PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>On Mar 11 11:12, David Eisner wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:24:24PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> >> >> >On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:13:53AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> >> >> >>[...]
>> Here's my theory.  [...]
>>   But Corrina interpreted this as
>
>*sob*  s/rrin/rinn/
>
>Note: I'm not accidentally writing my own name with 1 r and 2 n.
>
>Somehow I don't get it why so many people mistype my name.
>Oh hippos, what have I done to you!
>
>
>Corinna
>^^^^^^^
>Yes, really!

I think many people think you're probably Whoopi Goldberg
<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109484/>, incognito.

She's a well-known hacker <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091306/> so it's
a logical mistake.

cgf

Re: snapshots revisited

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Mar 12 13:21, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 06:40:45PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >On Mar 11 11:12, David Eisner wrote:
> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:24:24PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >> >> >> >On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:13:53AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >> >> >> >>[...]
> >> Here's my theory.  [...]
> >>   But Corrina interpreted this as
> >
> >*sob*  s/rrin/rinn/
> >
> >Note: I'm not accidentally writing my own name with 1 r and 2 n.
> >
> >Somehow I don't get it why so many people mistype my name.
> >Oh hippos, what have I done to you!
> >
> >
> >Corinna
> >^^^^^^^
> >Yes, really!
> 
> I think many people think you're probably Whoopi Goldberg
> <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109484/>, incognito.
> 
> She's a well-known hacker <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091306/> so it's
> a logical mistake.

LOL!  Maybe I should sign as Whoopi.


Worrina

Re: snapshots revisited

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 07:37:46PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>On Mar 12 13:21, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 06:40:45PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> >On Mar 11 11:12, David Eisner wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:24:24PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> >> >> >> >On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:13:53AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>[...]
>> >> Here's my theory.  [...]
>> >>   But Corrina interpreted this as
>> >
>> >*sob*  s/rrin/rinn/
>> >
>> >Note: I'm not accidentally writing my own name with 1 r and 2 n.
>> >
>> >Somehow I don't get it why so many people mistype my name.
>> >Oh hippos, what have I done to you!
>> >
>> >
>> >Corinna
>> >^^^^^^^
>> >Yes, really!
>> 
>> I think many people think you're probably Whoopi Goldberg
>> <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109484/>, incognito.
>> 
>> She's a well-known hacker <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091306/> so it's
>> a logical mistake.
>
>LOL!  Maybe I should sign as Whoopi.

Out of curiousity, is Whoopi Goldberg even known in Germany?  I know that
"Jumpin' Jack Flash" was a box office blockbuster but I don't know if it
made it to Germany.

cgf

Re: snapshots revisited

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Mar 12 13:55, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 07:37:46PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >On Mar 12 13:21, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 06:40:45PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >> >On Mar 11 11:12, David Eisner wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:24:24PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:13:53AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>[...]
> >> >> Here's my theory.  [...]
> >> >>   But Corrina interpreted this as
> >> >
> >> >*sob*  s/rrin/rinn/
> >> >
> >> >Note: I'm not accidentally writing my own name with 1 r and 2 n.
> >> >
> >> >Somehow I don't get it why so many people mistype my name.
> >> >Oh hippos, what have I done to you!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Corinna
> >> >^^^^^^^
> >> >Yes, really!
> >> 
> >> I think many people think you're probably Whoopi Goldberg
> >> <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109484/>, incognito.
> >> 
> >> She's a well-known hacker <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091306/> so it's
> >> a logical mistake.
> >
> >LOL!  Maybe I should sign as Whoopi.
> 
> Out of curiousity, is Whoopi Goldberg even known in Germany?  I know that
> "Jumpin' Jack Flash" was a box office blockbuster but I don't know if it
> made it to Germany.

Almost all Hollywood movies make it to Europe and if they were
blockbusters in the US, they are very likely blockbusters here, too.

For reference:

  http://www.imdb.de/title/tt0109484/
  http://www.imdb.de/title/tt0091306/
  http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whoopi_Goldberg


Corinna

RE: snapshots revisited

[Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]]

Corinna Vinschen sent the following at Saturday, March 12, 2011 12:41 PM
>*sob* s/rrin/rinn/
>
>Note: I'm not accidentally writing my own name with 1 r and 2 n.
>
>Somehow I don't get it why so many people mistype my name. Oh hippos,
>what have I done to you!

I apologize.

I know that this will be hard for you to believe, but I actually
checked the spelling.  Sigh.  I'd like to blame it on something that
Outlook did, but it was probably operator error.

- Barry
  Disclaimer: Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID.

Re: snapshots revisited

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Mar 12 14:53, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
> Corinna Vinschen sent the following at Saturday, March 12, 2011 12:41 PM
> >*sob* s/rrin/rinn/
> >
> >Note: I'm not accidentally writing my own name with 1 r and 2 n.
> >
> >Somehow I don't get it why so many people mistype my name. Oh hippos,
> >what have I done to you!
> 
> I apologize.

You don't have to.  You did it right.

Actually, nobody has to apologize for writing a nmae wrong, I'm
just puzzled that so many people mistype my name in the same way.
But Chris' explanation makes a lot of sense.


Whoopi

Re: snapshots revisited

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 09:09:54PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>On Mar 12 14:53, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
>> Corinna Vinschen sent the following at Saturday, March 12, 2011 12:41 PM
>> >*sob* s/rrin/rinn/
>> >
>> >Note: I'm not accidentally writing my own name with 1 r and 2 n.
>> >
>> >Somehow I don't get it why so many people mistype my name. Oh hippos,
>> >what have I done to you!
>> 
>> I apologize.
>
>You don't have to.  You did it right.
>
>Actually, nobody has to apologize for writing a nmae wrong, I'm
>just puzzled that so many people mistype my name in the same way.
>But Chris' explanation makes a lot of sense.
>
>
>Whoopi

Anyone who's met you in person would be immediately struck by the
resemblance.  If you were black, smaller, had different hair, teeth, and
nose, and voice, it would be truly uncanny.

cgf

Re: snapshots revisited

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Mar 12 16:11, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 09:09:54PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >On Mar 12 14:53, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
> >> Corinna Vinschen sent the following at Saturday, March 12, 2011 12:41 PM
> >> >*sob* s/rrin/rinn/
> >> >
> >> >Note: I'm not accidentally writing my own name with 1 r and 2 n.
> >> >
> >> >Somehow I don't get it why so many people mistype my name. Oh hippos,
> >> >what have I done to you!
> >> 
> >> I apologize.
> >
> >You don't have to.  You did it right.
> >
> >Actually, nobody has to apologize for writing a nmae wrong, I'm
> >just puzzled that so many people mistype my name in the same way.
> >But Chris' explanation makes a lot of sense.
> >
> >
> >Whoopi
> 
> Anyone who's met you in person would be immediately struck by the
> resemblance.  If you were black, smaller, had different hair, teeth, and
> nose, and voice, it would be truly uncanny.

Now that you mention it.  I was a bit concerned why people where peeping
at me and whispering to each other in my vicinity.  So it was not just
my fashionable make-up, after all.  Or my underarm perspiration.


Whoopsi