RE: tip for blind users of setup.exe regarding package installation

RE: tip for blind users of setup.exe regarding package installation

[Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]]

Adam Puckett sent the following at Monday, March 05, 2012 10:59 AM
>
>Here's how I went about installing Cygwin via setup.exe with the free,
>open source screen reader NVDA:
>
>1. Download and run setup.exe, and click "Next" at each prompt, as the
>user guide says, for a core install.
>2. Install additional packages with the -P option. E.G.:
>
>setup -P gcc -P git -P bzr -P python
>
>etc.

(1) Shouldn't this have been appropriate for the main list, not talk?

(2) This sounds like it might work as a basic for the generic "automatic
install" question that periodically shows up on the main list.  Might it
be appropriate for a FAQ or somewhere else in the documentation or on the
web site?  (Not that I have tried this or that it matters to me.)

- Barry
  Disclaimer: Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID.

Re: tip for blind users of setup.exe regarding package installation

[Adam Puckett]

I put it here to avoid being told to TITTTL.

On 3/6/12, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] <BBuchbinder@niaid.nih.gov> wrote:
> Adam Puckett sent the following at Monday, March 05, 2012 10:59 AM
>>
>>Here's how I went about installing Cygwin via setup.exe with the free,
>>open source screen reader NVDA:
>>
>>1. Download and run setup.exe, and click "Next" at each prompt, as the
>>user guide says, for a core install.
>>2. Install additional packages with the -P option. E.G.:
>>
>>setup -P gcc -P git -P bzr -P python
>>
>>etc.
>
> (1) Shouldn't this have been appropriate for the main list, not talk?
>
> (2) This sounds like it might work as a basic for the generic "automatic
> install" question that periodically shows up on the main list.  Might it
> be appropriate for a FAQ or somewhere else in the documentation or on the
> web site?  (Not that I have tried this or that it matters to me.)
>
> - Barry
>   Disclaimer: Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID.
>
>

Re: tip for blind users of setup.exe regarding package installation

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:55:01PM -0500, Adam Puckett wrote:
>I put it here to avoid being told to TITTTL.

Uh, no.  Tips on how to use Cygwin are certainly appropriate for the
Cygwin list.

Re: tip for blind users of setup.exe regarding package installation

[Adam Puckett]

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:22 AM , Christopher Faylor wrote:

> If you can't actually talk in an informative way about a cygwin utility
> on the cygwin list then what in the world would the cygwin list be for?
> Sending "git doesn't work"/"You need to rebase" mantras?

> Yeah, the rules are SO hard.

> If you want to moan and complain about a cygwin personality, take it to
> the talk list.

> If you want to talk about the great pizza that you had last night while
> running setup.exe, take it to the talk list.

> If you want to tell everyone the story of your life and how it came
> about that you are running cygwin, take it to the talk list.

> If you want to talk about hippos and their evolutionary relationship to
> other animals, take it to the talk list.

> If you want to make a sarcastic comment about something somebody said on
> the cygwin list, well, you could just respond to it on the cygwin list
> or you could take it to the talk list.  You'll probably be asked to
> take it here eventually if you keep it up.

> But, then, I don't recall a time in the last several months that someone
> was actually told to take a discussion here.  So it isn't like people
> are constantly being cruelly persecuted by mean mailing list snobs
> attempting to enforce obscure rules.

Thanks, CGF, for clearing that up.

Re: tip for blind users of setup.exe regarding package installation

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 06:11:55AM -0500, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote on March 06, 2012, at 10:45 PM
>>On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:55:01PM -0500, Adam Puckett wrote:
>>>I put it here to avoid being told to TITTTL.
>>
>>Uh, no.  Tips on how to use Cygwin are certainly appropriate
>>for the Cygwin list.
>
>Whatever one does, it is always wrong.  :-)

If you can't actually talk in an informative way about a cygwin utility
on the cygwin list then what in the world would the cygwin list be for?
Sending "git doesn't work"/"You need to rebase" mantras?

Yeah, the rules are SO hard.

If you want to moan and complain about a cygwin personality, take it to
the talk list.

If you want to talk about the great pizza that you had last night while
running setup.exe, take it to the talk list.

If you want to tell everyone the story of your life and how it came
about that you are running cygwin, take it to the talk list.

If you want to talk about hippos and their evolutionary relationship to
other animals, take it to the talk list.

If you want to make a sarcastic comment about something somebody said on
the cygwin list, well, you could just respond to it on the cygwin list
or you could take it to the talk list.  You'll probably be asked to
take it here eventually if you keep it up.

But, then, I don't recall a time in the last several months that someone
was actually told to take a discussion here.  So it isn't like people
are constantly being cruelly persecuted by mean mailing list snobs
attempting to enforce obscure rules.

Re: tip for blind users of setup.exe regarding package installation

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Mar  7 06:11, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
> Christopher Faylor wrote on March 06, 2012, at 10:45 PM
> >On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:55:01PM -0500, Adam Puckett wrote:
> >>I put it here to avoid being told to TITTTL.
> >
> >Uh, no.  Tips on how to use Cygwin are certainly appropriate
> >for the Cygwin list.
> 
> Whatever one does, it is always wrong.  :-)

No, it's not, and now get off my lawn!


Hippo of the day: Corinna

RE: tip for blind users of setup.exe regarding package installation

[Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]]

Christopher Faylor wrote on March 06, 2012, at 10:45 PM
>On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:55:01PM -0500, Adam Puckett wrote:
>>I put it here to avoid being told to TITTTL.
>
>Uh, no.  Tips on how to use Cygwin are certainly appropriate
>for the Cygwin list.

Whatever one does, it is always wrong.  :-)

tip for blind users of setup.exe regarding package installation

[Adam Puckett]

Here's how I went about installing Cygwin via setup.exe with the free,
open source screen reader NVDA:

1. Download and run setup.exe, and click "Next" at each prompt, as the
user guide says, for a core install.
2. Install additional packages with the -P option. E.G.:

setup -P gcc -P git -P bzr -P python

etc.

Adam