From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7071 invoked by alias); 2 Nov 2012 20:38:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 7057 invoked by uid 22791); 2 Nov 2012 20:38:10 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_SPAMHAUS_DROP,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mho-03-ewr.mailhop.org (HELO mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org) (204.13.248.66) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:38:06 +0000 Received: from pool-98-110-183-145.bstnma.fios.verizon.net ([98.110.183.145] helo=cgf.cx) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TUO0E-000FSX-7c for cygwin-talk@cygwin.com; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:38:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (ednor.casa.cgf.cx [192.168.187.5]) by cgf.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A69613C0C7 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 16:38:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX19QUFWKr+PmH+Ayw66GrU8S Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:38:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List Subject: Re: The losing battle of TOFU Message-ID: <20121102203805.GA14474@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List References: <20121102160617.GA12304@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-talk-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-talk-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2012-q4/txt/msg00005.txt.bz2 On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 04:30:51PM -0400, David Eisner wrote: >On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>Just needed to vent. Not using TOFU makes a lot of sense but I think >>the battle is over. > > >The other day I inadvertently bottom-posted to a relatively small >mailing list of (mostly non-tech) friends. One (of the tech variety) >responded so: > >"David, It's over. We lost. The world settled on doing it the wrong >way. You did it the wrong way with us, for a decade. Remember? When >you reply-bottom now, all you do is mess up the threading. > >Condolences, Andrew" > >He's probably right. Rather depressing. :-) Occasionally, I take time to laboriously correct the threading and respond on the bottom but that's pretty silly. I think most of the time when I do bottom posting people wonder why in the world I'm doing that. cgf