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From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Manifest Density [Was: Re: cygcheck -svc segfaults on Windows 8.1 with cygwin64]
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 11:06:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131121110525.GB2936@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <528D67A2.3020906@etr-usa.com>

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On Nov 20 18:53, Warren Young wrote:
> On 11/20/2013 05:53, Charles Wilson wrote:
> >So it's a play on words: Manifest Density vs. Manifest Destiny.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> The policy of manifest destiny is a form of pure arrogance: This is
> the way it will happen and everyone will either like it or get
> steamrolled by the inevitable.
> 
> ...Much like Microsoft "encouraging" apps to use manifest files.
> 
> And I agree, the Microsoft policy implemented by this API *is*
> dense. The denser an object is, the less affected it is by incoming
> matter. Density is a function of arrogance, so when reason speaks to
> arrogance, little happens.

What bugs me most is that this manifest enforcement runs completely over
the head of community-driven projects.

But even so.  If some company wants to make sure their applications run
on the new OS, it's *not* enough anymore to test.  "Yeah, our product
still works, nothing to do".  Rather, Microsoft practically forces 
software companies to create new versions, which is a big deal and costs
money for nothing.  And in a case of a community project like Cygwin,
we just can't rebuild all of our packages just to follow up with new
manifests.

Fortunately there is the chance to use side-by-side manifests, but that's
really ugly, isn't it?  Twice as many entries in /bin, urgh.


Corinna

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2013-11-20 12:53           ` Charles Wilson
2013-11-20 13:29             ` Corinna Vinschen
2013-11-20 16:47               ` JonY
2013-11-21  7:59                 ` Gary Johnson
2013-11-21  1:53             ` Warren Young
2013-11-21 11:06               ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]

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