Re: rcp, rsh don't work on Vista?

Re: rcp, rsh don't work on Vista?

[Matthew Woehlke]

TITTTL'd

Dave Korn wrote:
>   We need a new description for the specially vicious and malign kind of
> http://cygwin.com/acronyms#3PP who not only installs cygwin1.dll in the
> systemroot, but then goes to the extra lengths of hiding it as well.
> 
>   Maybe we could call them 3PP++ ;-)

Not that I don't like 3PP++ also, but I vote for EV3PP (EV = Extra Vicious).

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Re: rcp, rsh don't work on Vista?

[Igor Peshansky]

On Thu, 31 May 2007, Matthew Woehlke wrote:

> TITTTL'd
>
> Dave Korn wrote:
> >   We need a new description for the specially vicious and malign kind of
> > http://cygwin.com/acronyms#3PP who not only installs cygwin1.dll in the
> > systemroot, but then goes to the extra lengths of hiding it as well.
> >
> >   Maybe we could call them 3PP++ ;-)
>
> Not that I don't like 3PP++ also, but I vote for EV3PP (EV = Extra
> Vicious).

The extra viciousness comes from Windows, which, by default, hides the
contents of SYSTEMROOT...  Much as we'd like to blame 3PPs, this one is
not their fault. :-)
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Re: rcp, rsh don't work on Vista?

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 04:22:56PM -0400, Igor Peshansky wrote:
>On Thu, 31 May 2007, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
>
>> TITTTL'd
>>
>> Dave Korn wrote:
>> >   We need a new description for the specially vicious and malign kind of
>> > http://cygwin.com/acronyms#3PP who not only installs cygwin1.dll in the
>> > systemroot, but then goes to the extra lengths of hiding it as well.
>> >
>> >   Maybe we could call them 3PP++ ;-)
>>
>> Not that I don't like 3PP++ also, but I vote for EV3PP (EV = Extra
>> Vicious).
>
>The extra viciousness comes from Windows, which, by default, hides the
>contents of SYSTEMROOT...  Much as we'd like to blame 3PPs, this one is
>not their fault. :-)

There have been a couple reports now of 3PA's actually doing a
"chmod +H cygwin1.dll", though, I believe.

cgf

Re: rcp, rsh don't work on Vista?

[Igor Peshansky]

On Thu, 31 May 2007, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 04:22:56PM -0400, Igor Peshansky wrote:
> >On Thu, 31 May 2007, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> >
> >> TITTTL'd
> >>
> >> Dave Korn wrote:
> >> >   We need a new description for the specially vicious and malign kind of
> >> > http://cygwin.com/acronyms#3PP who not only installs cygwin1.dll in the
> >> > systemroot, but then goes to the extra lengths of hiding it as well.
> >> >
> >> >   Maybe we could call them 3PP++ ;-)
> >>
> >> Not that I don't like 3PP++ also, but I vote for EV3PP (EV = Extra
> >> Vicious).
> >
> >The extra viciousness comes from Windows, which, by default, hides the
> >contents of SYSTEMROOT...  Much as we'd like to blame 3PPs, this one is
> >not their fault. :-)
>
> There have been a couple reports now of 3PA's actually doing a
> "chmod +H cygwin1.dll", though, I believe.

Right, just re-read the full thread...  Sorry for the confusion.

3PSPs, then ("S" for "sneaky").
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Re: rcp, rsh don't work on Vista?

[Matthew Woehlke]

Igor Peshansky wrote:
> 3PSPs, then ("S" for "sneaky").

...somehow that makes me think of Sony :-)

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Re: rcp, rsh don't work on Vista?

[Igor Peshansky]

On Thu, 31 May 2007, Matthew Woehlke wrote:

> Igor Peshansky wrote:
> > 3PSPs, then ("S" for "sneaky").
>
> ...somehow that makes me think of Sony :-)

You're reading it backwards! :-)
	Igor
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Re: rcp, rsh don't work on Vista?

[Brian Dessent]

Christopher Faylor wrote:

> There have been a couple reports now of 3PA's actually doing a
> "chmod +H cygwin1.dll", though, I believe.

I contend that the real problem here is that intelligent people actually
use Windows Explorer as a file management tool without first configuring
it to stop hiding files that have the H attribute set or are in
%SYSTEMROOT%.

I can understand Microsoft's position that by nerfing the default
Explorer settings they prevent the Cletuses of the world from deleting
their SYSTEM32 directories because they didn't know what it was for. 
But on the other hand, if you do have an IQ greater than a houseplant
and you continue to use these ridiculous defaults, you shouldn't be
surprised when eventually they get in your way.

Brian