From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9564 invoked by alias); 16 Mar 2012 15:04:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 9548 invoked by uid 22791); 16 Mar 2012 15:04:57 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from etr-usa.com (HELO etr-usa.com) (130.94.180.135) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:04:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 27455 invoked by uid 13447); 16 Mar 2012 15:04:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [172.20.0.42]) ([71.210.205.108]) (envelope-sender ) by 130.94.180.135 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Mar 2012 15:04:43 -0000 Message-ID: <4F635682.6050500@etr-usa.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:04:00 -0000 From: Warren Young User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com Subject: Re: MS recommends Cygwin References: <4F61E4EC.3090005@etr-usa.com> <20120315184401.GA30751@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> In-Reply-To: <20120315184401.GA30751@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-talk-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-talk-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2012-q1/txt/msg00020.txt.bz2 On 3/15/2012 12:44 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 06:47:40AM -0600, Warren Young wrote: >> On 3/15/2012 5:42 AM, Andy Koppe wrote: >>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831568.aspx >>> >>> "Features Removed or Deprecated in Windows Server "8" Beta >>> ... >>> The Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications (SUA) is deprecated. If you >>> use the SUA POSIX subsystem with this release, use Hyper-V to >>> virtualize the server. If you use the tools provided by SUA, switch to >>> Cygwin or Mingw." >> >> Ding dong, the witch is dead? > > But I heard that SUA does fork correctly. Maybe it uses copy-on-right. > Cygwin should see if it could do the same thing. I went looking to see if the Windows 8 kernel added such a thing, but instead I came away with the impression that MS wants Win32 to DIAF. In other words, "You're next, Cygwin." I think a prerequisite for that unhappy event would be a complete iPadification of the consumer computing world, but that seems like a very real possibility to me. Driven not by MS, but by Apple, as usual. What I can't see happening is the iPadification of Windows Server. I can see it now: Cygwin 1.9 running on Windows Server 2018 Nerd Edition.