From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4630 invoked by alias); 26 Apr 2012 08:39:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 4621 invoked by uid 22791); 26 Apr 2012 08:39:32 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_THREADED,SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from simon.codemeta.com (HELO simon.codemeta.com) (216.177.7.148) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:39:19 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.105] (c-66-31-207-108.hsd1.nh.comcast.net [66.31.207.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by simon.codemeta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B859A708F5 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 04:39:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4F990995.1070807@veritech.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:39:00 -0000 From: "Lee D. Rothstein" Reply-To: l1ee057@veritech.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List Subject: Re: Updated: ed-1.6-1 References: <0105D5C1E0353146B1B222348B0411A20A6E685C19@NIHMLBX02.nih.gov> <20120423231645.GA7150@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <0105D5C1E0353146B1B222348B0411A20A6E685C1D@NIHMLBX02.nih.gov> In-Reply-To: <0105D5C1E0353146B1B222348B0411A20A6E685C1D@NIHMLBX02.nih.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mailing-List: contact cygwin-talk-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-talk-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2012-q2/txt/msg00019.txt.bz2 Long ago (circa 1979), and far away (Ball Labs, CO), I wrote a text retrieval system in 'ed'. Shortly thereafter, I started using MicroEmacs. I later replaced 'ed' in the retrieval system with 'ex' and awk. (I always disliked 'vi' -- the visual editor-wannabe.) Before that, circa 1975, I used a programmable forms letter system, called 'fed' on a pre-BSD (PDP 11-45?, at NASA Ames) that used 'ed' for a very flexible form letter system, that I used to get my job at Bell Labs. Now, I use TextPad. Nice, but all but dead, and only single platform -- Windows -- and missing some key features. BTW, 'ed' is not, by far, the worst editor that I ever used. 'edlin' was worse, by far, 'and 'Inted' on the HP 21MX, was the very worst. Also, 'learn', a very clever computer learning system for UNIX (TM -- some damn bunch of ganiff lawyers ;-)) and the shell (Bourne), by Kernighan, was based, in part, on 'ed'. 'ed' -- long may it wave[r]. ;-) On 4/23/2012 9:33 PM, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote: > Christopher Faylor wrote on April 23, 2012 7:17 PM >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 06:44:23PM -0400, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote: >>> Christopher Faylor wrote on Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:59 PM >>>> I've made a new version of ed available for installation. This version >>>> is a refresh from the currently released FSF version of this package. My guess is they added a new '--ultra-terse' feedback option. ;-) Although, fittingly, I'm speechless in trying to describe what that might mean. I rejoice! >8-} >>> They're still updating ed!?!?! >> I was pretty surprised too. I couldn't believe I'd missed several revisions. >> Who in the world still uses ed? > I was thinking more along the lines of "They are still finding bugs!?!?!" and > "They are still adding features!?!?!" > Can we agree that ed is a better exemplar of software that just won't go away than B20? > - Barry > Disclaimer: Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID. :wq Lee -- -- Lee Rothstein Disclaimer: Statements made herein, are, best (worst?) case, the opinions of Lee Rothstein -- if anyone at all. ;-)