From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 116573 invoked by alias); 3 Nov 2017 15:57:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-talk-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-talk-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 116562 invoked by uid 89); 3 Nov 2017 15:57:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_05,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=HTo:U*cygwin-talk, career, enterprise, excited X-HELO: mail-io0-f171.google.com Received: from mail-io0-f171.google.com (HELO mail-io0-f171.google.com) (209.85.223.171) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Nov 2017 15:57:03 +0000 Received: by mail-io0-f171.google.com with SMTP id b186so7231622iof.8 for ; Fri, 03 Nov 2017 08:57:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:reply-to:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wmm8htSMAfFAao0FGG8CRYvXC6ZyCSVQaAyFX5UeiaQ=; b=mrG2iYkAWOG6g6A/ppJmgaCk+DIeeSt1LNhuMXZV0M4uJ8Sm+34q7gclPYgFP28lSE vUEJChE+XUY4aXlXRhY3Odk4sNEK3vgKsQq2Z3HJ8XGcKQjakFjK60CqoBLISgpHdY2N vK7IQcBt5e+YGehRAQ92hzsho8eCD8jtbcmuXA9JICKuIV5uf2x8dRA0byCBq6wWCXIP PH4v9kl7Vb+nfJW1Rp5XIRLu5rgmdsLWZ3zXs+0CLbvouiVGI3tTq9EfaEfaMHdTge5h wDxnexjKcQtEQsn4tgurjpINNnEVx7Tyl9SJZRiYHzhDjv0gfUl1dirL5slXehj/oT6b 5W/g== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX5daRj6GgInfK1zKqGcgQC11jqAgm+zEuX0+N8KTpfhuuReZ8Sn fgkATObhvdTR/LOTznskb6+BDg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+TkkZyN908nO5839AA02pnhX96fCqm8fWuBQgFzMphDuVTycuTe+QxB3ObHlakZ1UumR73rsA== X-Received: by 10.36.65.34 with SMTP id x34mr396163ita.118.1509724621563; Fri, 03 Nov 2017 08:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (d4-50-42-50.try.wideopenwest.com. [50.4.50.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f16sm2864970ioi.30.2017.11.03.08.57.00 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Nov 2017 08:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Redstone 3 Creators Update for Windows 10 -- cygwin killer? To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com References: Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com From: cyg Simple Message-ID: <8673ae43-b37c-c6e0-bb46-72018c07ad62@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2017 15:57:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2017-q4/txt/msg00001.txt.bz2 On 11/3/2017 8:45 AM, Freeman, Mr. Ion C. wrote: > I’m very, very excited about the Windows Subsystem for Linux. Perplexingly, not one of my employers has asked me to work on a Unix user environment or Linux desktop since 1995, whereas nearly all of them have wanted their production code on a Unix or Linux system. > > So, Cygwin has been a big part of my career. Thank you for all of your efforts. > > I believe WSL is released and available to all Windows 10 users in Redstone 3, last month’s update. I think it should come to desktops in my enterprise next quarter – at least one corporation is not wasting any time* getting it on developers’ desktops. What does this mean for Cygwin? > > http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-creators-update-adds-lots-of-new-bashwsl-features/ > > Ion Freeman > > * In a relative sense. I know there are companies that upgrade OSs more quickly, or don’t attempt to control them at all, but you have to compare it with how long we had XP. Which is proprietary, but longer than you might think. > So you expect that the Linux Subsystem is about to take over Cygwin? Or you feel that Windows is about to just be another distribution of Linux with a different Windows version? Does that really destroy Cygwin or does it destroy Windows? MS has just awakened to the fact that Linux is taking over the entire world of computing? -- cyg Simple