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Tue, 15 May 2018 06:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: What is Cygwin and MinGW [WAS: Request new Ruby release] To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com References: <5afa206a.1c69fb81.2121e.da3a@mx.google.com> Reply-To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com From: cyg Simple Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=cygsimple@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFW7cuMBEADJg9disJJSBGRlDxdAt2hR6I6Ruzm8vw+zpjEGLsYyWiBhoLV1EEmHLyhh bdPEJx0DU2sPVbTcESRiYaTOVK6wJQMFur+WZ5cUkIXfJBQPUPRUcxbjrY8MtWYguhACSP/T ZGjtxl9w92fGYLTBDqVmOb9rjEo9UbmZwDTCYhjkAvlXR/K+q6+jGgrXLIC1CpiWqE1l2yH9 RGclbNc3Yjq9RJgqiHI+VgRa2P16NteTLSrD428YJS5p8rFIYngZooNClCJsrSAZCJ2abQ40 0S+kP/lcoSph5JXIDAL6sB6hUZg9sVpL4iU2Qsm7EKDBgvw72+AGH+ApxEgijYCPe8O1aybd qq2KWOeIg40gAua3ZPq7XIGd4TGIA0kzAK0wnE1LjSWF4h/bkf8CmGn3s7upAkNa75XOKApa V2cVMmi6qdcgjCDkNQbbgvv0V4VmqQYlFXYLfzOZZB3LgydeoMERX+74aVEHKv5PxEbfwLnv 29nsKvB7yLhfYSbaHQPOIqkgMuw+bx8m1Zh9IKJv0/O8Ta/yvyW2sHWMcAAmd4t1gykbZCZa NbvKAhvIP9NWjREae+jjsJJj98mbvsI8pCFbc2coHWNAk4JyBjDcMFrhTNA+8+D5RveRERrc yFu2qU6Bl7Bz2U1VLsmo2HcmRQRO6L0CwwsIlgeZGSmyJxPzzwARAQABzStFYXJuZXN0IEJv eWQgPGVib3lkNTNlbnRlcnByaXNlc0BnbWFpbC5jb20+wsF/BBMBCAApBQJVu3LjAhsjBQkJ ZgGABwsJCAcDAgEGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQcYOkK+VgItVscRAApR0Iad65JnDa 7RlhEducTNM836qBbqcsQSPoEGJ5sNhHP9VF2jB2Kd4JONyksLyVD/nU+hJwTB4SnUC5dwRo 0a4HQbYSaiLoXZNlRGGP++ACy7E0BT+pvV9gd9tmLtYDvuHzEbEY70nmt8FNrheEznv6CSss jY6uGDNfXV+7Hh+xZJ9z71Gb3mO6byz5EIDz+iFZU6VpIyYVUFnyR5fvkJwNqFoOVqc5TqkR mDWWtb5nEYLMNmDcSbh1lY7YEUfHFqhT++O/gXTv9hZ5jU7kuA9OYkc4HY1ctRI3xuu+YzBY NwzEeKmdC1JK2XXERHxQGvtru+G9mwAdFQ9TAiQinsMqAJfDW/WX5eaEaTrtkizWiTM93eJ+ zXpyBtxWjdQUNpYqEysWnNz0ZA0IB6P4Py1Gdts/T0i8tDE9C9UiqbZSj7VnkP4vwI311RmP ooXuzjpOc4RFTbYdBiobpy+RLyIZSMEqRd51fveXZPCGzs3BDdNX48c2biwLVQ3MNpCKU9D3 5I0Kd6vdST4UTQrQ9Gco0o60M9+0gi/YHHAol7/XTW64Me1lj5ELsUSWnRI4xEQbCbOKRa15 LRxRoVqsVOeZqUlKI9AvrVaSaJz+PkaORcHFWIWnS+jzRc+vpvO9vbg3AoZvKrr2Rkhq/558 RTxZJz8UlUHeC+PVN7ai8GzOwU0EVbty4wEQAOu9QeDKIYUr+dRp/tNWRIt+MdHB9vxAnRIm 8fEC7/LlYu5HhdfBk9ol1EVeuQRWobipWmkPvIBBVKNFAC4yjV09Bp4s+AEIAkHD6JyQkbwd j9urYHf14RGdfJMZaA8B6vQpgywoQ51qLn1DqzEfPzeUVYTBoqDiTrfNA4roSvq3MWWl51CM plVALm57UIDnK5+8Dlgw235iu2BuzY0iq5wCeGGcZzTruudSwQ656uvcExLSVRZFuHy2tT1Z Bug2ADy99Z6qnGObiHAlQQj2JfHzszPOAJZX8k/ou4VB1WToCzIGCCMgSvrCqiMCFPj55R+s ArEz84sczVpmwujWwS2coxAVWOUVj8a+/NzZoqgi2GxjNHVNHJir4K3fMm9aADHRpysVUTdw fLJ9ya1tpCbrijJGhhUJBxuCdbUYtM55gOTAod9M+9fPk+QMt4MqxFf9yJXHKSVojjFnuUln m156Aocthzl2KezLxnde44FSblHDG7LtcSxhI0CmDS/lWZl5FPswDxjexBt8uaAwCgJUdr7x u6Q3ydTst6UXrzEowtKo7utm8L823gKcNjktKhDGHpddseC5RgPIWwp7/QDb4uiPw2Y6UI3n BH6x7dYcV0bQfsHtJ1ytdWhI5GgmPZsWoLBHtZg/065RHJpe1Dl5Orv1gtRTyMbk0iIoutYJ ABEBAAHCwWUEGAEIAA8FAlW7cuMCGwwFCQlmAYAACgkQcYOkK+VgItXjzw/+IStc4Aw/7OVU aFRBzURiIAJw8i83z3Uf87iwOurygkJ881UMEpvRUJDbEI1HQg3kyT95jw9/Oz3vMXXp+6EH cGgkLI1yJwih1GEF2MXKx5qgETWgM1DDpsW6Xhyty/hX4UW/dRlgDBh8iow7SziOc7mLwXWN 50ejMpvN7Ve2ZhqYucO5FLa6hnTssUv9pyucwuzDjmkcHn4GGeLV7xjanpMp9fMKLcOHnWJd 4IhL2AQUIVL6D1W87x9MqvbhuN9vYTro+adu4/5pogFu/oJVd0MO8GRU2TGdDac4pboAh8dW n7/PlAjvSaA9VWqR/kOQKGyOkFZXFgFtuPWUbedGasF6T+vJocWLz/R18FLB6p7EInQLGMWg wGsTPx//LTR5MItkY82S3yWiLFIqep9tz2AfSFA8OmMt89DcAtNaueK5RmhlaqLGExrd5UDh 9DEdG0tpWfTT50qekW9xvQM0BX//jKwZmW0BBpesbuvPT/2o88k6IVZ36KocuZ2bOIPILi32 wg+5v1su/z8BRNE2vrXyEBUtHkSNxAfJO9jDWlqec3RAmyvHFNORmrT2jwBYn6tWRk1frBVh rQ3yLvQckFdqNQzJ9xxtLpa+g6QvjEDsWx3edL7PHaIqtxe5F9nMnEKEI4f/92ssTst9Ot3Z 57mvQ2yi7GXAyBGBmMvhVno= Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com Message-ID: <8c4adfcf-5204-bd25-b61c-c789f9b40d5b@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 13:18:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5afa206a.1c69fb81.2121e.da3a@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2018-q2/txt/msg00003.txt.bz2 I'm moving this to the Cygwin-Talk list. On 5/14/2018 7:48 PM, Steven Penny wrote: > On Mon, 14 May 2018 10:31:18, cyg Simple wrote: >> And you a free to do so.  MinGW isn't GCC > > yes it is. when you compile GCC, as i have done: > > http://github.com/svnpenn/glade/blob/master/mingw-w64-x86-64/gcc > > you choose a target. normally for this community that is > "x86_64-pc-cygwin", but > in my case it is "x86_64-w64-mingw32". but you dont use some magical > "MinGW" > repo, its the same GCC. granted, you do need to also install the target > "binutils", "headers" and "runtime", but the same source is used to > build GCC > itself. > And given this you think Cygwin is also GCC. WRONG, MinGW and Cygwin are just the runtime libraries required to build GCC and other packages. GCC is a separate entity that has its own process of accepting patches for using runtime libraries. Binutils also is a separate entity that uses even different methods of patching requirements as both Cygwin and GCC. Anyone who states that the GCC product is an entity other than GCC isn't thinking clearly about the various pieces and parts. Now to make Cygwin or MinGW useful you need the other pieces and parts but those pieces and parts do not become the entity of Cygwin or MinGW. Cygwin and MinGW remain a separate entity providing the runtime libraries to use to build other pieces and parts. -- cyg Simple