From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8509 invoked by alias); 1 Jun 2010 11:00:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 8495 invoked by uid 22791); 1 Jun 2010 11:00:27 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,TW_YW,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com (HELO blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com) (65.55.111.85) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Tue, 01 Jun 2010 11:00:15 +0000 Received: from BLU113-W20 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 1 Jun 2010 04:00:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mike Marchywka To: Subject: RE: default terminal (was: Re: "can't create master tty" errors) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 11:00:00 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20100601082043.GA1362@calimero.vinschen.de> References: <20100531212927.GI18315@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <20100601004212.GJ18315@ednor.casa.cgf.cx>,<20100601082043.GA1362@calimero.vinschen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-talk-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-talk-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2010-q2/txt/msg00047.txt.bz2 ---------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:20:43 +0200 > From: corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com > To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: default terminal (was: Re: "can't create master tty" errors) > > On May 31 20:42, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:34:37PM +0100, Andy Koppe wrote: >>>On 31 May 2010 22:29, Christopher Faylor: >>>> Part of the reason I want to do this is that I just saw Andy commenting >>>> in a "Death of Cygwin" blog post where the author was surprised that >>>> something like mintty existed at all. >>> >>>Seems the author has quietly retracted his post, including our >>>comments. How classy. >> >> Classy, indeed. I mean to go back and see if there was a response to my >> response. I guess that was it. > You might think that this selective memory only applies to informal forum and blogs but it comes up everywhere. This is probably no=20 surprise, but I will just mention more examples. You see intellectualized variants in statistics even in hard sciences but consider pumps for various stocks that state things like, " if you'd just picked these internet stocks at random in 1999 you could have been rich today." Of course, the ones that survived went up and the ones that went under are not included in today's sampes of things you could have picked.=20 In these cases, usually the only thing on the line is a small wager or some bragging rights. In other cases however, the glaringly wrong prediction can be a source of thought provoking musings- how could anyone think that at the time is not just a rhetorical expression of disgust director toward the OP, but a real request for information of some use understanding situations today.=20 You also see examples where prior editorial decisions look stupid- sometimes the premiere journal Nature publishes a list of paradigm breaking papers that were badly treated by original editors or reviewers. Things taken as obvious today weren't obvious before the paradigm was changed (duh).=20 > Any chance to find a copy of the blog via the google memory? What was > the name of the blog and where was it? > This is like trying to get stock charts of enron or find websites from fail= ed biotech or internet companies to see what promises they made at the time. Most fields try to bury corpses without dissection cynically-you could gues= s that this is for the sake of continued profit from repeated mistakes. Failure analysis, understanding the false prophet, you could argue is a waste of time compare= d to just studyng successes but both are important for perspective and statistic= al baselines.=20 I don't think I personally would spend a lot of time going through these or every quack cancer cure someone puts on a free hosting site but sometimes they are quite helpful especially if you can sort through them with automat= ed tools, maybe looking for keywords unique to scams.=20 Goog does cache stuff but it seems to be really hit or miss. For this issue= maybe not a big deal but in general I'd like to find a way to archive various things th= at seemed like a good idea at the time but didn't quite work out.=20 > > Corinna note new address Mike Marchywka 1975 Village Round Marietta GA 30064 415-264-8477 (w)<- use this 404-788-1216 (C)<- leave message 989-348-4796 (P)<- emergency only marchywka@hotmail.com Note: If I am asking for free stuff, I normally use for hobby/non-profit information but may use in investment forums, public and private. Please indicate any concerns if applicable. =20=09=09=20=09=20=20=20=09=09=20=20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hot= mail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=3Dmultiaccount&ocid=3DP= ID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4