From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 91813 invoked by alias); 17 Aug 2016 00:53:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-talk-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-talk-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 90403 invoked by uid 89); 17 Aug 2016 00:53:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=mailer, appeal, cared, maker X-HELO: mail-yw0-f182.google.com Received: from mail-yw0-f182.google.com (HELO mail-yw0-f182.google.com) (209.85.161.182) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 00:52:55 +0000 Received: by mail-yw0-f182.google.com with SMTP id u134so53118454ywg.3 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VHv8B7efbH8C5VxgJC8Dfok4nJymFKymgers5yv3PLE=; b=Qj6GAboyswpfAtgwvzzlj+lK7TX0ud0gdMjTHE3pnr7iqCm8BpWxJQL0NAOA48twZV oP0FsZFo2hOfsuHA385IhbWtwczpNekQvMUpiFw2hTupqfwAzBtAbW1hYuW/Ds471ptD NEXGDUYwfJUKZTDrPxbTJeNcCHFkgwtUoYbH36C31b3YO5BO3kVuVz0O6TylweRH9DnJ 0Pwu0lLj+A7Mke3k4FMEKPPx6h4Sa5RISmoN9Hopm00QS6P9e1w/tYT4XvIW4gJObR4K RXgqiRY5aJVj5Mbp5olvvE2DTmAWVty7VxrGT3K2VM9HQEIKi6JbXuXXS/WbYJAGPsBM YI/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoousEdqGJxA3PfHEA3AIUxCEk3GmC4s7rkfAD6NyEfohvHSnzXhgSVVHq+w2PtKI87GCFYvmUr98vVLZAvQ== X-Received: by 10.129.73.66 with SMTP id w63mr28884157ywa.146.1471395173729; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:52:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.230.197 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:52:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <57AD6B06.7010109@maxrnd.com> References: <0A6BAC78-954B-4543-BD85-50CCFB22F4A4@etr-usa.com> <57ABF835.9050500@maxrnd.com> <57AD6B06.7010109@maxrnd.com> From: Robert Pendell Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 00:53:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: First experiences with WSL (a.k.a. Bash on Windows) To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2016-q3/txt/msg00009.txt.bz2 On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:21 AM, Mark Geisert wrote: > > Warren Young wrote: >> >> On Aug 10, 2016, at 9:59 PM, Mark Geisert wrote: >>> >>> >>> Warren Young wrote: >>> [...] >>> >>> Would you kindly https://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTWLL ? >> >> >> That option doesn=E2=80=99t exist in this program. >> >> I don=E2=80=99t see the problem anyway. One unbroken line per paragraph= is trivial to wrap in software, and then you get breaks where *you* like t= hem, rather than where *I* like them. >> >> Choosing not to insert hard breaks in paragraphs also allows me to post = the too-common long modern URLs without using a shortener, so you can see w= here I intend for you to go before you click. >> >> If your advice is to switch to a different mailer, there are only two ot= hers that have even slight appeal to me on this platform, and the maker of = the first has repeatedly threatened to abandon its development, and the sec= ond costs more money than I believe the problem is worth. After all, *I* d= on=E2=80=99t have a problem with the status quo. So, do you want to buy me= a software license to solve *your* problem? :) >> > > Here is an example of what your posts tend to look like to me on those ra= re > occasions when I bother to expand Chrome to full-screen to read them: > http://maxrnd.com/~mark/Warren.png > > I don't see all of your text. I'd like to be able to read it without hav= ing > to go full-screen or scroll left-right or use some other reader. This is > Chrome reading the Cygwin mail archives; can't get much more vanilla than= that. Chrome doesn't seem to have an option to wrap. > > Of course it's your choice. But if nobody said anything about it you > wouldn't be aware that some folks can't read your usually thoughtful and > detailed posts. > Respectfully, > > ..mark > (Note: My response was intentionally typed without manually hitting enter as I want to see the wrapping in gmail and see if it actually hits 78 characters or if it runs on) This actually went off topic from the original message. In regards to the original message I found that it does an ok job in the areas I cared about however it has only partial shared memory support. It is broken in some places like node.js doesn't entirely work with it however I got non server node.js apps to work in it. It also worked for 3DS homebrew development which was a good thing because I couldn't get the Windows environment for that to work properly for some reason and it works fine in Linux so even though it might run a litle slower it still worked out better for me. Given that they have plenty of work to do. Cygwin has had a huge head start on them and managed to get many things emulated/implemented already. I'd personally be interested to see if they can get it done right but I don't have my hopes up. Now then as far as long lines? It is better for the sender to handle it. Mailing lists are archived in most cases and it stores the messages as sent by the client. Most of the time the messages do not wrap and when they do it wraps at the window border. With larger resolutions it looks like a huge line. Wrapping at 72 or even 80 characters looks infinitely better than a run on line on the screen. I think someone already posted an image of what one of the messages looked like in the archive. Robert Pendell A perfect world is one of chaos. Keybase: http://keybase.io/shinji257