From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16067 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 2015 02:09:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-talk-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-talk-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 15877 invoked by uid 89); 30 Aug 2015 02:09:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: etr-usa.com Received: from etr-usa.com (HELO etr-usa.com) (130.94.180.135) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 02:09:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 11776 invoked by uid 13447); 30 Aug 2015 02:09:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO polypore.west.etr-usa.com) ([73.26.17.49]) (envelope-sender ) by 130.94.180.135 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 30 Aug 2015 02:09:22 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Windows 10 console slightly less horrid than before From: Warren Young In-Reply-To: <20150829072404.GC29802@calimero.vinschen.de> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 02:09:00 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <75B1FA36-302C-4168-82F2-FA68029679D1@etr-usa.com> <20150829072404.GC29802@calimero.vinschen.de> To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2015-q3/txt/msg00014.txt.bz2 On Aug 29, 2015, at 1:24 AM, Corinna Vinschen w= rote: >=20 > settings which prefer application shortcuts over global shortcuts I was thinking of it more as yet another reason to prefer mintty, and a thi= ng to keep in mind when you must use cmd.exe for some reason, as with my re= cent testing of the full-screened console window on the main list. MS is coming at it from the WordPad perspective, whereas mintty is coming a= t it from the xterm/tty perspective. They=E2=80=99re going to conflict ove= r things like the meaning of Ctrl-A. The only reason they haven=E2=80=99t broken Ctrl-C, too, is that they can d= o that only when there is something selected. But the Bash/Vim use for Ctrl-V is probably also broken under Windows 10 no= w, so there goes the normal way of inserting literal control characters int= o documents, something I end up needing to do once every several months. (= e.g. ^V^O to reset a terminal due to accidentally cat-ing a binary file, or= hacking around with ^M to test CR/LF handling in some parser.)