From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16414 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2006 23:20:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 16387 invoked by uid 22791); 22 Jun 2006 23:20:56 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from ACCESS1.CIMS.NYU.EDU (HELO access1.cims.nyu.edu) (128.122.81.155) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:20:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by access1.cims.nyu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5MNKqfl028805 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 19:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:20:00 -0000 From: Igor Peshansky Reply-To: The Cygwin-Talk Maiming List To: The Cygwin-Talk Maiming List Subject: Re: PCYMTNQREAIYR In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <31DDB7BE4BF41D4888D41709C476B65704168B82@NIHCESMLBX5.nih.gov> <449ABE13.7060101@tibco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-talk-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-talk-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: The Cygwin-Talk Maiming List X-SW-Source: 2006-q2/txt/msg00442.txt.bz2 On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote: > Igor Peshansky wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote: > > > Given that this is something we usually have to throw at new users, do > > > we *really* expect them to know to use STFW? ;-) I would have to say > > > that this and TOFU might be deserving of 'one stop shopping' links, even > > > if they just point to google with appropriate search terms (perhaps best > > > if they do, even). > > > > The problem, as I've already outlined it, is "which terms do I put in the > > Google query"? Outlook? "Outlook Express"? Thunderbird? Pine? > > > > I've already offered to put a link to a page that strived to become a > > comprehensive list of solutions to the PCYMTNQREAIYR/TOFU problems. It > > would then be up to the maintainer of that page to add new solutions as > > they are discovered (I might even contribute a couple). But the OLOCA is > > not an FAQ. > > Igor > > I was actually thinking "one of each". I.e. there would be a list of > links, e.g. "_Outlook_ _Outlook_Express_ _Pine_ ...", etc. But I must > have misunderstood; the impression I got was that nothing was happening. > If a page is being made, that would be great! Not to my knowledge. . > I still think the OLOCA should at least have a link back to such a page, > however, for convenience if nothing else. Quoting myself: "I've already offered to put a link to a page that strived to become a comprehensive list of solutions to the PCYMTNQREAIYR/TOFU problems". If such a page were created and brought to my attention, I will put a link to it into the PCYMTNQREAIYR and TOFU entries in the OLOCA. > Heck, just make the word "configure" in the acronym's expansion be the > link :-). Then there is no new text. I actually don't mind new text -- it will make the link explicit, and will also show up in wtf output. > Oh, and I wouldn't worry about Thunderbird, given that the *default* > configuration is correct. If someone is using Thunderbird and doing it > wrong, there's a good chance that's because they made the change > intentionally. Thunderbird was actually a vague recollection on my part of someone else's complaint, as I don't use it. But I do know for a fact that pine would quote the raw address in some situations (e.g., when the real name is not provided) unless it's configured properly. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu | igor@watson.ibm.com ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ Igor Peshansky, Ph.D. (name changed!) |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' old name: Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! "Las! je suis sot... -Mais non, tu ne l'es pas, puisque tu t'en rends compte." "But no -- you are no fool; you call yourself a fool, there's proof enough in that!" -- Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac"