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RE: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[Williams, Gerald S (Jerry)]

Dave Korn wrote:
>>>>   You know, it occurs to me that the english language lacks -
>>>> but could greatly use - a word meaning [...]

>   Ah, but it's not the self-doubt to which I am alluding, but the
> feelings of shame, self-loathing, embarassment, utter hatred of the
> entire universe, and ennui which arise out of an occasion on which
> your actions have been guided by that self-doubt.

I know it's not quite one word, but perhaps "dubiety anxiety" comes
close?

-gsw

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[Dave Korn]

Williams, Gerald S (Jerry) wrote:
> Dave Korn wrote:
>>>>>   You know, it occurs to me that the english language lacks -
>>>>> but could greatly use - a word meaning [...]
> 
>>   Ah, but it's not the self-doubt to which I am alluding, but the
>> feelings of shame, self-loathing, embarassment, utter hatred of the
>> entire universe, and ennui which arise out of an occasion on which
>> your actions have been guided by that self-doubt.
> 
> I know it's not quite one word, but perhaps "dubiety anxiety" comes
> close?
> 
> -gsw


  I know it's not quite close, but perhaps "hippopotamus" is one word?


    cheers,
      DaveK
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Can't think of a witty .sigline today....

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[Dave Korn]

Williams, Gerald S (Jerry) wrote:
> Dave Korn wrote:
>>> I know it's not quite one word, but perhaps "dubiety anxiety" comes
>>> close?
>>   I know it's not quite close, but perhaps "hippopotamus" is one word?
> 
> I know it's not quite word, but perhaps one hippopotamus is close?

I know it's not white curd, but perhaps one hippopotamus is cheese? 

> gsw
> 
> P.S. Pigeons? How did pigeons get into it?

  Someone left a window open at the back and they just flew in one day.
They've been flapping round the rafters and crapping on our heads ever since.

  And the moral of the story?  The moral is "Never leave your windows
open".... no that's not it...   The moral of the story is "It's a good thing
hippos can't fly in Mobile..."


    cheers,
      DaveK
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Can't think of a witty .sigline today....

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[Williams, Gerald S (Jerry)]

Dave Korn wrote:
>> I know it's not quite one word, but perhaps "dubiety anxiety" comes
>> close? 
>   I know it's not quite close, but perhaps "hippopotamus" is one word?

I know it's not quite word, but perhaps one hippopotamus is close?

gsw

P.S. Pigeons? How did pigeons get into it?

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[Dave Korn]

* * wrote:
> On 1/11/06, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
>>> From: Dave Korn
>> [snip]
>>>   You know, it occurs to me that the english language lacks -
>>> but could greatly use - a word meaning
>>> 
>>>  "That especially embarassing combination of shame and
>>> humiliation you feel on realising that your first instincts
>>> were absolutely sound and right and good, and you surpressed
>>> them against your better judgement, and went and trusted what
>>> others said, instead of your own good sense, only to discover
>>> in the end that you were right in the first place and should
>>> have trusted and had faith in yourself but lost confidence at
>>> the last moment and went along with the consensus when you
>>> should have known better that YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG
>>> GODDAMMIT AND YOU ONLY MADE A FOOL OF YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU
>>> WERE TRYING TO BE NICE TO OTHER PEOPLE AND ASSUME THEY
>>> WEREN'T ALL GODDAM IDIOTS JUST FOR ONCE!"
>>> 
>>>   ...excuse me, I think I was starting to shout a bit towards the end
>>> there.... 
>>> 
>>>   Hey, Corinna, you guys invented "schadenfreude", surely
>>> /you/ must already have a word for this emotion?
>> 
>> They do, but it's just a concatenation of that entire sentence, just
>> without spaces or punctuation, like most German words, and hence doesn't
>> fit on a 7x-character line. 
>> 
>> --
>> Gary R. Van Sickle
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Auf Englisch: we might call the action (misguided) deference, and
> hence the feeling becomes "post-misguided deference symdrome" or just
> plain "self-doubt"?  That already fits comfortably on one line.


  Ah, but it's not the self-doubt to which I am alluding, but the feelings of
shame, self-loathing, embarassment, utter hatred of the entire universe, and
ennui which arise out of an occasion on which your actions have been guided by
that self-doubt.


    cheers,
      DaveK
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Can't think of a witty .sigline today....

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[Gary R. Van Sickle]

> From: * *
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:20 PM
> To: The Cygwin-Talk Malingering List
> Subject: Re: once more unto the breech - please try a 
> snapshot so I can release this thing
> 
> On 1/11/06, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > > From: Dave Korn
> > [snip]
> > >   You know, it occurs to me that the english language lacks - but 
> > > could greatly use - a word meaning
> > >
> > >  "That especially embarassing combination of shame and 
> humiliation 
> > > you feel on realising that your first instincts were absolutely 
> > > sound and right and good, and you surpressed them against your 
> > > better judgement, and went and trusted what others said, 
> instead of 
> > > your own good sense, only to discover in the end that you 
> were right 
> > > in the first place and should have trusted and had faith 
> in yourself 
> > > but lost confidence at the last moment and went along with the 
> > > consensus when you should have known better that YOU WERE 
> RIGHT ALL 
> > > ALONG GODDAMMIT AND YOU ONLY MADE A FOOL OF YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU 
> > > WERE TRYING TO BE NICE TO OTHER PEOPLE AND ASSUME THEY 
> WEREN'T ALL 
> > > GODDAM IDIOTS JUST FOR ONCE!"
> > >
> > >   ...excuse me, I think I was starting to shout a bit towards the 
> > > end there....
> > >
> > >   Hey, Corinna, you guys invented "schadenfreude", surely 
> /you/ must 
> > > already have a word for this emotion?
> >
> > They do, but it's just a concatenation of that entire 
> sentence, just 
> > without spaces or punctuation, like most German words, and hence 
> > doesn't fit on a 7x-character line.
> >
> > --
> > Gary R. Van Sickle
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Auf Englisch: we might call the action (misguided) deference, 
> and hence the feeling becomes "post-misguided deference 
> symdrome" or just plain "self-doubt"?  That already fits 
> comfortably on one line.

Hm.  Well, unless the German translation of that requires the use of
"Smallfont", it just doesn't have the same Teutonic charm.

-- 
Gary R. Van Sickle
 

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[* *]

On 1/11/06, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > From: Dave Korn
> [snip]
> >   You know, it occurs to me that the english language lacks -
> > but could greatly use - a word meaning
> >
> >  "That especially embarassing combination of shame and
> > humiliation you feel on realising that your first instincts
> > were absolutely sound and right and good, and you surpressed
> > them against your better judgement, and went and trusted what
> > others said, instead of your own good sense, only to discover
> > in the end that you were right in the first place and should
> > have trusted and had faith in yourself but lost confidence at
> > the last moment and went along with the consensus when you
> > should have known better that YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG
> > GODDAMMIT AND YOU ONLY MADE A FOOL OF YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU
> > WERE TRYING TO BE NICE TO OTHER PEOPLE AND ASSUME THEY
> > WEREN'T ALL GODDAM IDIOTS JUST FOR ONCE!"
> >
> >   ...excuse me, I think I was starting to shout a bit towards
> > the end there....
> >
> >   Hey, Corinna, you guys invented "schadenfreude", surely
> > /you/ must already have a word for this emotion?
>
> They do, but it's just a concatenation of that entire sentence, just without
> spaces or punctuation, like most German words, and hence doesn't fit on a
> 7x-character line.
>
> --
> Gary R. Van Sickle
>
>
>

Auf Englisch: we might call the action (misguided) deference, and
hence the feeling becomes "post-misguided deference symdrome" or just
plain "self-doubt"?  That already fits comfortably on one line.

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[Dave Korn]

Igor Peshansky wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Dave Korn wrote:
> 
>> Igor Peshansky wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Joe Smith wrote:
>> 
>>>> The fact that both you and OAU use strange (humerous) names for the
>>>> cygwn-talk list, and have both always used pine running on a computer
>>>> in that network...
>>> 
>>> Huh?  *Everyone* on this list uses a strange name for it.  You should
>>> see what conundrums DaveK comes up with (a new one for every post).
>> 
>>   Actually I did repeat one once.
>> 
>>   But fortunately that was in 1927, well before the invention of
>> computers or the internet, so nobody noticed.
> 
> What, you mean there was a time when mailing lists weren't archived?
> Gasp!
> 	Igor


  Archiving was really expensive back in the old days... just six months worth
of mail could easily occupy four or five pigeon lofts and require several
dozen kilos of birdseed every day.


    cheers,
      DaveK
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Can't think of a witty .sigline today....

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[Igor Peshansky]

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Dave Korn wrote:

> Igor Peshansky wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Joe Smith wrote:
>
> >> The fact that both you and OAU use strange (humerous) names for the
> >> cygwn-talk list, and have both always used pine running on a computer in
> >> that network...
> >
> > Huh?  *Everyone* on this list uses a strange name for it.  You should see
> > what conundrums DaveK comes up with (a new one for every post).
>
>   Actually I did repeat one once.
>
>   But fortunately that was in 1927, well before the invention of
> computers or the internet, so nobody noticed.

What, you mean there was a time when mailing lists weren't archived?
Gasp!
	Igor
-- 
				http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
      |\      _,,,---,,_	    pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu | igor@watson.ibm.com
ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_		Igor Peshansky, Ph.D. (name changed!)
     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		old name: Igor Pechtchanski
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

"Las! je suis sot... -Mais non, tu ne l'es pas, puisque tu t'en rends compte."
"But no -- you are no fool; you call yourself a fool, there's proof enough in
that!" -- Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac"

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[Dave Korn]

Igor Peshansky wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Joe Smith wrote:

>> The fact that both you and OAU use strange (humerous) names for the
>> cygwn-talk list, and have both always used pine running on a computer in
>> that network...
> 
> Huh?  *Everyone* on this list uses a strange name for it.  You should see
> what conundrums DaveK comes up with (a new one for every post).  

  Actually I did repeat one once.

  But fortunately that was in 1927, well before the invention of computers or
the internet, so nobody noticed.



    cheers,
      DaveK
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Can't think of a witty .sigline today....

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[Dave Korn]

Ed C. Lueless wrote:

>"Love your enemy -- it will drive him nuts." -- Eleanor Doan

  Now doan you start!

    cheers,
      DaveK
-- 
Can't think of a witty .sigline today....

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[Dave Korn]

Igor Peshansky wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Dave Korn wrote:
> 
>> Igor Peshansky wrote:
>> 
>>> Besides, this thread has not even mentioned hippos.  How can you have a
>>> cygwin-talk thread with no hippos?  This is outrageous!  So, here's the
>>> obligatory mention of hippos: LOOK OUT, THERE'S A HIPPO BEHIND YOU!
>>> 	Igor
>> 
>>   Why do I keep finding footprints in the butter?
> 
> Because the butter is behind you, of course...
> 	Igor

  Why does your mailer keep adding YA space between 'can' and 'release' every
time you reply?

    cheers,
      DaveK
-- 
Can't think of a witty .sigline today....

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[Ed C. Lueless]

On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 11:59:10AM -0500, Igor Peshansky wrote:
>On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Eric Blake wrote:
>>According to Igor Peshansky on 1/13/2006 9:38 AM:
>>
>>>Besides, this thread has not even mentioned hippos.  How can you have a
>>>cygwin-talk thread with no hippos?  This is outrageous! So, here's the
>>>obligatory mention of hippos: LOOK OUT, THERE'S A HIPPO BEHIND YOU!
>>
>>I beg to differ.  As OP, I most certainly mentioned hippos in
>>http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-talk/2006-q1/msg00028.html.
>
>Yes, you did.  Apologies for missing it.  How does one miss a hippo,
>anyway?
>
>>Wait, what's that noise I hear behind me?
>
>Whoosh -- *SPLAT*.  :-)

I don't use Outlook at all.  I use Mutt! It is not that hard
to set up.  It only took a couple of hours and it was
well worth the invstement!

I try to use as little of the Windoze crap as possible!

I tell everyone in my comapny to use CygwIn but I'm hoping
that we're going to switch to linux soon because Cygwin is
*s*l*o*w*.

But, before cfg flames me, I want to point out that he
and Corrina have both done an amazing job getting things
working pn a *sucky* OS!

P.S. "Mailing" was *still* mispelled in the To until I fixed
it.
--
-Ed C. Lueless         Master Programmer
"Love your enemy -- it will drive him nuts." -- Eleanor Doan
"Ed C.  - you are the man!" -- my boss

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[Igor Peshansky]

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Dave Korn wrote:

> Igor Peshansky wrote:
>
> > Besides, this thread has not even mentioned hippos.  How can you have a
> > cygwin-talk thread with no hippos?  This is outrageous!  So, here's the
> > obligatory mention of hippos: LOOK OUT, THERE'S A HIPPO BEHIND YOU!
> > 	Igor
>
>   Why do I keep finding footprints in the butter?

Because the butter is behind you, of course...
	Igor
-- 
				http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
      |\      _,,,---,,_	    pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu | igor@watson.ibm.com
ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_		Igor Peshansky, Ph.D. (name changed!)
     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		old name: Igor Pechtchanski
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

"Las! je suis sot... -Mais non, tu ne l'es pas, puisque tu t'en rends compte."
"But no -- you are no fool; you call yourself a fool, there's proof enough in
that!" -- Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac"

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[Igor Peshansky]

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Eric Blake wrote:

> According to Igor Peshansky on 1/13/2006 9:38 AM:
>
> > Besides, this thread has not even mentioned hippos.  How can you have
> > a cygwin-talk thread with no hippos?  This is outrageous!  So, here's
> > the obligatory mention of hippos: LOOK OUT, THERE'S A HIPPO BEHIND
> > YOU!
>
> I beg to differ.  As OP, I most certainly mentioned hippos in
> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-talk/2006-q1/msg00028.html.

Yes, you did.  Apologies for missing it.  How does one miss a hippo,
anyway?

> Wait, what's that noise I hear behind me?

Whoosh -- *SPLAT*. :-)
	Igor
-- 
				http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
      |\      _,,,---,,_	    pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu | igor@watson.ibm.com
ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_		Igor Peshansky, Ph.D. (name changed!)
     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		old name: Igor Pechtchanski
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

"Las! je suis sot... -Mais non, tu ne l'es pas, puisque tu t'en rends compte."
"But no -- you are no fool; you call yourself a fool, there's proof enough in
that!" -- Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac"

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[Dave Korn]

Igor Peshansky wrote:


> 
> Besides, this thread has not even mentioned hippos.  How can you have a
> cygwin-talk thread with no hippos?  This is outrageous!  So, here's the
> obligatory mention of hippos: LOOK OUT, THERE'S A HIPPO BEHIND YOU!
> 	Igor

  Why do I keep finding footprints in the butter?


    cheers,
      DaveK
-- 
Can't think of a witty .sigline today....

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[Eric Blake]

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According to Igor Peshansky on 1/13/2006 9:38 AM:
> 
> Besides, this thread has not even mentioned hippos.  How can you have a
> cygwin-talk thread with no hippos?  This is outrageous!  So, here's the
> obligatory mention of hippos: LOOK OUT, THERE'S A HIPPO BEHIND YOU!

I beg to differ.  As OP, I most certainly mentioned hippos in
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-talk/2006-q1/msg00028.html.  Wait, what's that
noise I hear behind me?

- --
Life is short - so eat dessert first!

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[Igor Peshansky]

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Joe Smith wrote:

> "Igor Peshansky"  wrote in message
> news:Pine.GSO.4.63.0601121905100.21633@access1.cims.nyu.edu...
>
> > On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Joe Smith wrote:
> >
> > > "Igor Peshansky" <pechtcha@XX.XXX.XXX> wrote:
> >
> > <http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR>.  This being a talk list
> > doesn't mean spammer bots won't read it.  Thanks.
>
> Crud... Is there really a working solution for Outlook Express? Or do I
> need to edit it out every time?

Heh.  Used to be you could Google for PCYMTNQREAIYR and get a link to
QuoteFix...  This doesn't seem to be happening now -- too many mentions of
the acronym itself.  Well, Googling for QuoteFix should do it.

I repeat my earlier request: would someone be willing to maintain a page
with a list of solutions for PCYMTNQREAIYR for various mailers?  If so,
I'll link to that page from the acronyms page.

> BTW. You send your email adddress in the sig of all your messages

Yes, as the acronyms page says, this is the choice of the person posting
the message.  The PCYMTNQREAIYR acronym really refers to reply lead-ins
like "joe <j@example.com> wrote:" -- these don't give the original poster
any choice.

> (when posting as Igor),

Huh?  I always post as Igor.  I *am* Igor. :-)

> so I doubt it matters if I quote it by mistake.

It probably doesn't matter for my email address, but configuring your
mailer will prevent you from doing this to people who would prefer to not
have their email addresses posted on the internet in raw form.

> > Besides, what with mail relays, etc, that person could have been
> > anywhere in the world...
> > Igor
>
> Hmm... except by your own admission the mailings came from the same pc,
> in the same location, using the mail mailing, running under the same
> PID.

Yeah, security is lax these days, ain't it?

> The fact that both you and OAU use strange (humerous) names for the
> cygwn-talk list, and have both always used pine running on a computer in
> that network...

Huh?  *Everyone* on this list uses a strange name for it.  You should see
what conundrums DaveK comes up with (a new one for every post).  Besides,
have you ever looked at the Reply-To header on most messages coming from
this list?

> I'm afraid you've been cornered.

You can do that on the Internet?  I thought it had no boundaries (thus no
walls, thus no corners)...  You learn something new every day...

Besides, this thread has not even mentioned hippos.  How can you have a
cygwin-talk thread with no hippos?  This is outrageous!  So, here's the
obligatory mention of hippos: LOOK OUT, THERE'S A HIPPO BEHIND YOU!
	Igor
-- 
				http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
      |\      _,,,---,,_	    pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu | igor@watson.ibm.com
ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_		Igor Peshansky, Ph.D. (name changed!)
     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		old name: Igor Pechtchanski
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

"Las! je suis sot... -Mais non, tu ne l'es pas, puisque tu t'en rends compte."
"But no -- you are no fool; you call yourself a fool, there's proof enough in
that!" -- Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac"

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[Corinna Vinschen]

On Jan 13 09:59, Joe Smith wrote:
> Crud... Is there really a working solution for Outlook Express? Or do I 
> need to edit it out every time?

There are zillions of working solutions if you start using an email client.
Trust me...

> BTW. You send your email adddress in the sig of all your messages (when 
> posting as Igor), so I doubt it matters if I quote it by mistake.

Hmm, that's an interesting point.  Maybe Igor is working as undercover
honeypot for mailing lists?


Corinna

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[Dave Korn]

Joe Smith wrote:
> "Igor Peshansky"  wrote in message
> news:Pine.GSO.4.63.0601121905100.21633@access1.cims.nyu.edu...
> 
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Joe Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> "Igor Peshansky" <pechtcha@XX.XXX.XXX> wrote:
>> 
>> <http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR>.  This being a talk list
>> doesn't mean spammer bots won't read it.  Thanks.
>> 
> Crud... Is there really a working solution for Outlook Express? Or do I
> need to edit it out every time?

  Yes!  It is possible!  http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

[ http://tinyurl.com/bjoff !]


> BTW. You send your email adddress in the sig of all your messages (when
> posting as Igor), so I doubt it matters if I quote it by mistake.

  In fact it does explicitly mention that case in the PCYM... entry.

>> Besides, what with mail relays, etc, that person could have been
>> anywhere in the world... Igor
> 
> Hmm... except by your own admission the mailings came from the same pc, in
> the same location, using the mail mailing, running under the same PID.
> The fact that both you and OAU use strange (humerous) names for the
> cygwn-talk list, and have both always used pine running on a computer in
> that network...
> 
> I'm afraid you've been cornered.


;)  I don't think it was ever meant to be a real big secret!


  Oh, BTW, the correct internet term is "Igor, your socks are showing"!


    cheers,
      DaveK
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Can't think of a witty .sigline today....

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[Joe Smith]

"Igor Peshansky"  wrote in message 
news:Pine.GSO.4.63.0601121905100.21633@access1.cims.nyu.edu...

> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Joe Smith wrote:
>
>> "Igor Peshansky" <pechtcha@XX.XXX.XXX> wrote:
>
> <http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR>.  This being a talk list
> doesn't mean spammer bots won't read it.  Thanks.
>
Crud... Is there really a working solution for Outlook Express? Or do I need 
to edit it out every time?

BTW. You send your email adddress in the sig of all your messages (when 
posting as Igor), so I doubt it matters if I quote it by mistake.

> Besides, what with mail relays, etc, that person could have been anywhere
> in the world...
> Igor

Hmm... except by your own admission the mailings came from the same pc, in 
the same location, using the mail mailing, running under the same PID.
The fact that both you and OAU use strange (humerous) names for the 
cygwn-talk list, and have both always used pine running on a computer in 
that network...

I'm afraid you've been cornered.

Re: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[Igor Peshansky]

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Joe Smith wrote:

> "Igor Peshansky" <pechtcha@XX.XXX.XXX> wrote:

<http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR>.  This being a talk list
doesn't mean spammer bots won't read it.  Thanks.

> > D'oh!
>
> Does One Angry Igor wish to explain why he posts using two different
> names? If not, should I contact the local Psych ward that there is a a
> person suspected of having dissociative identity disorder on campus?

Suspect all you want.  It wasn't me, I tell ya!  There's an hour
difference between those messages -- a lot could happen in one hour!

Besides, what with mail relays, etc, that person could have been anywhere
in the world...
	Igor
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				http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
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ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_		Igor Peshansky, Ph.D. (name changed!)
     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		old name: Igor Pechtchanski
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

"Las! je suis sot... -Mais non, tu ne l'es pas, puisque tu t'en rends compte."
"But no -- you are no fool; you call yourself a fool, there's proof enough in
that!" -- Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac"

Re: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[Ed C. Lueless]

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 04:33:06PM -0500, Joe Smith wrote:
>"Igor Peshansky" <pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu> wrote in message 
>news:Pine.GSO.4.63.0601120826470.20806@access1.cims.nyu.edu...
>>
>>D'oh!
>>
>Does One Angry Igor wish to explain why he posts using two different
>names?  If not, should I contact the local Psych ward that there is a a
>person suspected of having dissociative identity disorder on campus?

I don't think tehy are the same person
myself.  I think its someone else.

BtW< someone cfg(?) needs to fix the
misspelling in the To.  A lot of messages
misspell the word "mailing.

-ed
--
-Ed C. Lueless         Master Programmer
"Love your enemy -- it will drive him nuts."
  -- Eleanor Doan
"Ed C.  - you are the man!"
  -- my boss

Re: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[Joe Smith]

"Igor Peshansky" <pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu> wrote in message 
news:Pine.GSO.4.63.0601120826470.20806@access1.cims.nyu.edu...
>
> D'oh!
>
Does One Angry Igor wish to explain why he posts using two different names? 
If not, should I contact the local Psych ward
that there is a a person suspected of having dissociative identity disorder 
on campus? 

RE: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[Igor Peshansky]

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Dave Korn wrote:

> > On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, One Angry User wrote:
> >
> >> There is a word in American English that reflects most of the emotion.
> >> The word is "D'oh!".
> >>
> >> OAU
>
> > On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Igor Peshansky wrote:
> >
> >> Well, the American dialect of English already has a word for this
> >> emotion.
> >> The word is "D'oh!".
> >> 	Igor
>
>   D'oh!  :)

There ya go!

> > Wow!  Eerie...
> > 	Igor
>
>   It's more than just eerie, it's downright sinister.  Did you know this
> bounder goes to the same college as you?  Is this guy stalking you?
>
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D'oh!

>   My god!  It gets worse!  He doesn't just go to your college, he uses
> your machine as well!  ("localhost" is yours, isn't it?)  And what's

Heh, "localhost" is everybody's!  :-p

> this?  He uses the same mailer as you!  You use pine, don't you?
>
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> Subject: RE: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can
> release this thing
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>
> Reply-To: Blaaab Babble Boogle Bop <cygwin-talk AT cygwin>
> To: The Cygwin-Talk Malingering List <cygwin-talk AT cygwin>
> Subject: RE: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can
> release this thing
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>
>   In fact, my god!  Look at the timestamp, look at the user ID!  He's
> been using your mailer!  He sent that mail just before you got there!
> He must have been right there in the room!

Not just before -- an hour before...  But wait -- he uses THE SAME PINE
PROCESS ID AS ME (if you know how to decode pine message ids)!!!  I should
leave my computer locked more often... :-)

>          LOOK OUT IGOR!!!!
>
>                    HE'S BEHIND YOU!!! !

Thankfully, he's not a fiddler crab -- I don't see any of those...

>                       RUN!!!!!1!
                                ^
Is that a start of a count?  Ok, I'll bite: 2!
	Igor
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				http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
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     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		old name: Igor Pechtchanski
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

"Las! je suis sot... -Mais non, tu ne l'es pas, puisque tu t'en rends compte."
"But no -- you are no fool; you call yourself a fool, there's proof enough in
that!" -- Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac"

RE: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[Dave Korn]

> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, One Angry User wrote:
> 
>> 
>> There is a word in American English that reflects most of the emotion.
>> The word is "D'oh!".
>> 
>> OAU
 
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Igor Peshansky wrote:
> 
>> Well, the American dialect of English already has a word for this
>> emotion. 
>> The word is "D'oh!".
>> 	Igor
> 

  D'oh!  :)

> Wow!  Eerie...
> 	Igor

  It's more than just eerie, it's downright sinister.  Did you know this
bounder goes to the same college as you?  Is this guy stalking you?

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  My god!  It gets worse!  He doesn't just go to your college, he uses your
machine as well!  ("localhost" is yours, isn't it?)  And what's this?  He uses
the same mailer as you!  You use pine, don't you?

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  In fact, my god!  Look at the timestamp, look at the user ID!  He's been
using your mailer!  He sent that mail just before you got there!  He must have
been right there in the room!



 
         LOOK OUT IGOR!!!!

                   HE'S BEHIND YOU!!! !   


                      RUN!!!!!1!




    cheers,
      DaveK
-- 
Can't think of a witty .sigline today....

RE: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

> From: Dave Korn
[snip]
>   You know, it occurs to me that the english language lacks - 
> but could greatly use - a word meaning
> 
>  "That especially embarassing combination of shame and 
> humiliation you feel on realising that your first instincts 
> were absolutely sound and right and good, and you surpressed 
> them against your better judgement, and went and trusted what 
> others said, instead of your own good sense, only to discover 
> in the end that you were right in the first place and should 
> have trusted and had faith in yourself but lost confidence at 
> the last moment and went along with the consensus when you 
> should have known better that YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG 
> GODDAMMIT AND YOU ONLY MADE A FOOL OF YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU 
> WERE TRYING TO BE NICE TO OTHER PEOPLE AND ASSUME THEY 
> WEREN'T ALL GODDAM IDIOTS JUST FOR ONCE!"
> 
>   ...excuse me, I think I was starting to shout a bit towards 
> the end there....
> 
>   Hey, Corinna, you guys invented "schadenfreude", surely 
> /you/ must already have a word for this emotion?

They do, but it's just a concatenation of that entire sentence, just without
spaces or punctuation, like most German words, and hence doesn't fit on a
7x-character line.

-- 
Gary R. Van Sickle
 

RE: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[Igor Peshansky]

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, One Angry User wrote:

> On a cloudy Wednesday, the 11th day of January, 2006, Dave Korn's computer deigned to emit the following stream of bytes:
>
> >   You know, it occurs to me that the english language lacks - but could
> > greatly use - a word meaning
> >
> >  "That especially embarassing combination of shame and humiliation you
> > feel on realising that your first instincts were absolutely sound and
> > right and good, and you surpressed them against your better judgement,
> > and went and trusted what others said, instead of your own good sense,
> > only to discover in the end that you were right in the first place and
> > should have trusted and had faith in yourself but lost confidence at the
> > last moment and went along with the consensus when you should have known
> > better that YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG GODDAMMIT AND YOU ONLY MADE A FOOL
> > OF YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU WERE TRYING TO BE NICE TO OTHER PEOPLE AND
> > ASSUME THEY WEREN'T ALL GODDAM IDIOTS JUST FOR ONCE!"
> >
> >   ...excuse me, I think I was starting to shout a bit towards the end
> > there....
> >
> >   Hey, Corinna, you guys invented "schadenfreude", surely /you/ must
> > already have a word for this emotion?
>
> There is a word in American English that reflects most of the emotion.
> The word is "D'oh!".
>
> OAU

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Igor Peshansky wrote:

> Well, the American dialect of English already has a word for this emotion.
> The word is "D'oh!".
> 	Igor

Wow!  Eerie...
	Igor
-- 
				http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
      |\      _,,,---,,_	    pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu | igor@watson.ibm.com
ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_		Igor Peshansky, Ph.D. (name changed!)
     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		old name: Igor Pechtchanski
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

"Las! je suis sot... -Mais non, tu ne l'es pas, puisque tu t'en rends compte."
"But no -- you are no fool; you call yourself a fool, there's proof enough in
that!" -- Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac"

RE: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[Igor Peshansky]

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Dave Korn wrote:

> Christopher Faylor wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 09:32:24AM -0500, Williams, Gerald S (Jerry)
> > wrote:
> >> Eric Blake wrote:
> >>> I hope you meant breach[1], not breech[2].
> >>
> >> Maybe he meant the back of the barrel, as in "we're getting ready to
> >> pull the trigger".
> >
> > Actually, I had it as "into the breach" initially and then did a google
> > search and found "unto the breech" so I changed it.  I should have just
> > looked up the definition rather than trust random internet misspellers.
>
>   You know, it occurs to me that the english language lacks - but could
> greatly use - a word meaning
>
>  "That especially embarassing combination of shame and humiliation you
> feel on realising that your first instincts were absolutely sound and
> right and good, and you surpressed them against your better judgement,
> and went and trusted what others said, instead of your own good sense,
> only to discover in the end that you were right in the first place and
> should have trusted and had faith in yourself but lost confidence at the
> last moment and went along with the consensus when you should have known
> better that YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG GODDAMMIT AND YOU ONLY MADE A FOOL
> OF YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU WERE TRYING TO BE NICE TO OTHER PEOPLE AND
> ASSUME THEY WEREN'T ALL GODDAM IDIOTS JUST FOR ONCE!"
>
>   ...excuse me, I think I was starting to shout a bit towards the end
> there....
>
>   Hey, Corinna, you guys invented "schadenfreude", surely /you/ must
> already have a word for this emotion?

Well, the American dialect of English already has a word for this emotion.
The word is "D'oh!".
	Igor
-- 
				http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
      |\      _,,,---,,_	    pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu | igor@watson.ibm.com
ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_		Igor Peshansky, Ph.D. (name changed!)
     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		old name: Igor Pechtchanski
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

"Las! je suis sot... -Mais non, tu ne l'es pas, puisque tu t'en rends compte."
"But no -- you are no fool; you call yourself a fool, there's proof enough in
that!" -- Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac"

RE: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[One Angry User]

On a cloudy Wednesday, the 11th day of January, 2006, Dave Korn's computer deigned to emit the following stream of bytes:

> Christopher Faylor wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 09:32:24AM -0500, Williams, Gerald S (Jerry)
> > wrote:
> >> Eric Blake wrote:
> >>> I hope you meant breach[1], not breech[2].
> >>
> >> Maybe he meant the back of the barrel, as in "we're getting ready to
> >> pull the trigger".
> >
> > Actually, I had it as "into the breach" initially and then did a google
> > search and found "unto the breech" so I changed it.  I should have just
> > looked up the definition rather than trust random internet misspellers.
>
>   You know, it occurs to me that the english language lacks - but could
> greatly use - a word meaning
>
>  "That especially embarassing combination of shame and humiliation you
> feel on realising that your first instincts were absolutely sound and
> right and good, and you surpressed them against your better judgement,
> and went and trusted what others said, instead of your own good sense,
> only to discover in the end that you were right in the first place and
> should have trusted and had faith in yourself but lost confidence at the
> last moment and went along with the consensus when you should have known
> better that YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG GODDAMMIT AND YOU ONLY MADE A FOOL
> OF YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU WERE TRYING TO BE NICE TO OTHER PEOPLE AND
> ASSUME THEY WEREN'T ALL GODDAM IDIOTS JUST FOR ONCE!"
>
>   ...excuse me, I think I was starting to shout a bit towards the end
> there....
>
>   Hey, Corinna, you guys invented "schadenfreude", surely /you/ must
> already have a word for this emotion?

There is a word in American English that reflects most of the emotion.
The word is "D'oh!".

OAU

RE: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[Dave Korn]

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 09:32:24AM -0500, Williams, Gerald S (Jerry)
> wrote: 
>> Eric Blake wrote:
>>> I hope you meant breach[1], not breech[2].
>> 
>> Maybe he meant the back of the barrel, as in "we're getting ready to
>> pull the trigger".
> 
> Actually, I had it as "into the breach" initially and then did a google
> search and found "unto the breech" so I changed it.  I should have just
> looked up the definition rather than trust random internet misspellers.


  You know, it occurs to me that the english language lacks - but could
greatly use - a word meaning

 "That especially embarassing combination of shame and humiliation you feel on
realising that your first instincts were absolutely sound and right and good,
and you surpressed them against your better judgement, and went and trusted
what others said, instead of your own good sense, only to discover in the end
that you were right in the first place and should have trusted and had faith
in yourself but lost confidence at the last moment and went along with the
consensus when you should have known better that YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG
GODDAMMIT AND YOU ONLY MADE A FOOL OF YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU WERE TRYING TO BE
NICE TO OTHER PEOPLE AND ASSUME THEY WEREN'T ALL GODDAM IDIOTS JUST FOR ONCE!"

  ...excuse me, I think I was starting to shout a bit towards the end
there....

  Hey, Corinna, you guys invented "schadenfreude", surely /you/ must already
have a word for this emotion?


    cheers,
      DaveK
-- 
Can't think of a witty .sigline today....

Re: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 09:32:24AM -0500, Williams, Gerald S (Jerry) wrote:
>Eric Blake wrote:
>>I hope you meant breach[1], not breech[2].
>
>Maybe he meant the back of the barrel, as in "we're getting ready to
>pull the trigger".

Actually, I had it as "into the breach" initially and then did a google
search and found "unto the breech" so I changed it.  I should have just
looked up the definition rather than trust random internet misspellers.

cgf

RE: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[Williams, Gerald S (Jerry)]

Eric Blake wrote:
> I hope you meant breach[1], not breech[2].

Maybe he meant the back of the barrel, as in "we're
getting ready to pull the trigger".

> Your subject reminded me of one of the early English
> translations of the Bible, where the translator picked the
> wrong word in Genesis 3:7 (http://sunnyokanagan.com/breeches/).

That reminds be of the time when I translated Monopoly
into Latin for a school project. I guess it must have
been late when I looked that one up, since I ended up
calling "Community Chest" something along the lines of
"Communitas Pectas" (you got it, "Community Breast").

:-)

-gsw

Re: once more unto the breech - please try a snapshot so I can release this thing

[Eric Blake]

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I hope you meant breach[1], not breech[2].  Otherwise, I'd have to send a
hippo after you (think of the children!).  Your subject reminded me of one
of the early English translations of the Bible, where the translator
picked the wrong word in Genesis 3:7 (http://sunnyokanagan.com/breeches/).

Oh, and I finally subscribed to the cygwin-talk list; I've had far too
many laughs reading the web archives for me to lurk any longer.

> 
> Failure to provide any of the above in a report will result in taunting
> and/or mocking.  You have been warned.

So bring on the taunting - I didn't provide any cygcheck details!

> 
> Oh. And, fixes are always welcome.

Fixes?  On an open source project?  Who would have thought it possible?

[1]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=breach
[2]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=breech

- --
Life is short - so eat dessert first!

Eric Blake             ebb9@byu.net
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