From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13794 invoked by alias); 4 Jul 2005 18:44:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-talk-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-talk-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: The Cygwin-Talk Malingering List Received: (qmail 13784 invoked by uid 22791); 4 Jul 2005 18:44:00 -0000 Received: from host217-40-213-68.in-addr.btopenworld.com (HELO SERRANO.CAM.ARTIMI.COM) (217.40.213.68) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.30-dev) with ESMTP; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:44:00 +0000 Received: from mace ([192.168.1.25]) by SERRANO.CAM.ARTIMI.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:43:57 +0100 From: "Dave Korn" To: "'wibbly little fishies'" Subject: RE: Bug report [was FW: Freeze in perl script after cygwin upgrade 1.5.17 -> 1.5.18] Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:44:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20050704183016.GA20441@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: X-SW-Source: 2005-q3/txt/msg00004.txt.bz2 ----Original Message---- >From: Christopher Faylor >Sent: 04 July 2005 19:30 > On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 07:17:59PM +0100, Dave Korn wrote: >>> From: Christopher Faylor >>> Sent: 04 July 2005 19:11 >> >>> The division of labor should be like this: >>> >>> The reporter: .. >> >> ... will send the following message to the mailing list: >> >> " Cygwin, you sucK! IT broKen, you fix it now!" > > OTOH, by sending strace output, you can bask in the knowledge that > you've done "something technical" and, so, therefore, are actually > helping in a constructive way rather than just complaining. > > You'll be even more helpful if you inspect the output and trim away all > of the stuff you know is unneeded even though the whole reason you're > sending the strace output is that you don't know cygwin well enough to > fix the problem and so, therefore, your attempt to trim the output is > likely to trim away useful bits... > > cgf Even better, come up with a simple test case, and post it to the list, but then, because it doesn't quite show the problem like you expected it to, 'adjust' the output from your shell as you cut'n'paste it into the email, to make it more 'correct'. I love that one! cheers, DaveK -- Can't think of a witty .sigline today....