From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25128 invoked by alias); 26 May 2006 05:21:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 25121 invoked by uid 22791); 26 May 2006 05:21:34 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from main.gmane.org (HELO ciao.gmane.org) (80.91.229.2) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Fri, 26 May 2006 05:21:31 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FjUlG-0006VA-TF for cygwin-talk@cygwin.com; Fri, 26 May 2006 07:21:23 +0200 Received: from oh-67-77-22-84.dyn.sprint-hsd.net ([67.77.22.84]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 07:21:22 +0200 Received: from unknown_kev_cat by oh-67-77-22-84.dyn.sprint-hsd.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 May 2006 07:21:22 +0200 To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com From: "Joe Smith" Subject: Re: Re: Handling special characters (\/:*?"<>|) gracefully Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 05:21:00 -0000 Message-ID: References: <4C89134832705D4D85A6CD2EBF38AE0F3E0A1A@PAUMAILU03.ags.agere.com> <000f01c68002$def1b430$a501a8c0@CAM.ARTIMI.COM> <20060525143449.GC12123@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-talk-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-talk-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: The Cygwin-Talk Maiming List X-SW-Source: 2006-q2/txt/msg00363.txt.bz2 "Christopher Faylor" wrote in message news:20060525143449.GC12123@trixie.casa.cgf.cx... > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 02:55:24PM +0100, Dave Korn wrote: >>On 25 May 2006 14:45, Williams, Gerald S (Jerry) wrote: >>>The code was released as PD, so there are no copyrights claimed. Once >>>you get a copy, you can do whatever you want with it. >> >>Well, I'm not 100% sure that means I can re-license it. And IIUIC I >>would need to actually *own* the copyright on anything that I want to >>place under GPL. So cgf's caution is probably correct and I should >>really do a clean-room implementation of my own. If you modify it in any way, you have created a derived work. That is very well established. If your modifications are non-trivial, then you would hold copyright on the derived work, so there should be absolutly no problems releasing the dirived work under the GPL. There is considerable precident in the publishing industry to back this up. >> >>I think it'll be ok to use the list of functions that you suggested as >>the basis, however! > > FWIW, Red Hat's legal department (who no longer respond to my email) once > told > me that incorporating public domain stuff into Cygwin was ok as long as it > was > very clear that there was no claim on the code > > Unfortunately, proving that a company doesn't claim ownership is usually > roughly > equivalent to having them fill out the idious cygwin assignment so, > AFAICT, this > isn't usually all that useful an option to pursue. > I suspect that if Jerry were to post a scan of a signed document indicating that the company does not claim authorship, or that the company has placed the work into the public domain, it would be difficult for the company to claim they did not. Now, that should really be acompanied by a similar document indicating that Jerry does not claim rights to the work, as Jerry could potentially have some claim to the work. For example it is possible that the contract that gave the company any claim to the work was never valid in the first place. Highly unlikely, but theoretically possible. DISCLAMER: IANAL, but I spend a lot of time reading Debian-legal, so I have a fairly good understanding of how copyright works.