From: mwoehlke <mwoehlke@tibco.com>
To: cygwin-talk@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Rsync over ssh (pulling from Cygwin to Linux) stalls..
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:42:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ec265l$1or$1@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C89134832705D4D85A6CD2EBF38AE0F6839DF@PAUMAILU03.ags.agere.com>
Williams, Gerald S (Jerry) wrote:
> mwoehlke wrote:
>> Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>> mwoehlke wrote:
>>>> Ok, *that* actually makes sense. However, that /should/ just mean
>>>> that they need proof (from whoever would sign an assignment) that
>>>> the code is public domain, which means it could still *be* public
>>>> domain, with all the protections (such as they are) that implies.
>>> How would such a form differ from what is currently being used?
>> Assuming you can make a trivial change that results in a derivative,
>> and therefore copyrightable work, I'd say the second clause would be
>> different, i.e. would state that as a condition of the assignment,
>> permission for other use (in particular, of future revisions to the
>> original "work") is automatically granted without written notice. In
>> fact, I'm not thrilled with the written notice thing, either. :-)
>
> Whatever the reason, it interferes with my ability to contribute code
> to Cygwin even if I can package it separately, since my company will
> not sign the assignment. They will, however, allow me to release code
> into the public domain.
>
> Besides providing a possible avenue for contributing code, this got
> me thinking about the other public domain projects out there. People
> ought to be able to freely use their code. That's the whole point of
> releasing them into the public domain. And perhaps if open source
> proponents such as RedHat found a way to accept public domain code,
> others in my situation would start up more public domain projects.
> For the greater good and all that.
>
> I have asked in the past if a letter confirming that the code has been
> put into the public domain is sufficient, but apparently it is not. I
> realize that the assignment gives you someone to hold responsible if
> there are ownership issues, and covers patents and such, which are not
> addressed automatically by placing the code in the public domain. The
> assignment has been carefully thought out by someone, even though it's
> seemingly not amenable to accepting public domain code.
>
> But it is what it is. I'm not trying to start an accusatory thread--I
> just think it's just a bit of a shame that PD code is excluded.
FWIW, my impression is still that *you* could PD your code, and then
someone else who *can* sign an assignment can come along, make a trivial
change (like adding a comment, thus qualifying it as a "derivative work"
that can be copyrighted), and then submit it. Which sounds ridiculous,
but makes perverted sense in light of CGF's comment.
--
Matthew
Websites such as ... Wikipedia ... are reputed to occupy users for
periods in excess of 5 hours. -- Wikipedia article on Internet Addiction
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[not found] ` <006401c6bfc0$da40e570$a501a8c0@CAM.ARTIMI.COM>
2006-08-14 17:45 ` mwoehlke
2006-08-14 17:54 ` mwoehlke
2006-08-14 18:02 ` Dave Korn
2006-08-14 18:05 ` Dave Korn
2006-08-14 19:48 ` mwoehlke
2006-08-15 0:02 ` Dave Korn
2006-08-15 15:48 ` mwoehlke
2006-08-16 13:23 ` Williams, Gerald S (Jerry)
2006-08-16 15:16 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-08-16 15:53 ` mwoehlke
2006-08-16 16:04 ` Corinna Vinschen
2006-08-16 16:17 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-08-16 16:54 ` mwoehlke
2006-08-17 16:31 ` Williams, Gerald S (Jerry)
2006-08-17 16:42 ` mwoehlke [this message]
2006-08-18 13:31 Williams, Gerald S (Jerry)
2006-08-18 14:17 ` Dave Korn
2006-08-18 14:26 ` mwoehlke
2006-08-18 14:44 ` Dave Korn
2006-08-18 15:09 ` mwoehlke
2006-08-18 15:45 ` Dave Korn
2006-08-18 15:58 ` mwoehlke
2006-08-18 16:06 ` Dave Korn
2006-08-18 16:42 ` Dave Korn
2006-08-18 18:28 ` Igor Peshansky
2006-08-18 14:43 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-08-18 16:34 ` Williams, Gerald S (Jerry)
2006-08-18 19:28 ` mwoehlke
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