Keyboard problems

Keyboard problems

[Pierre Muller]

   The X server seems to make strange things under win95 at least:

Several keys when hold pressed generate series of keypress keyrelease events
(like the shift key or the right windows key)

This leads to errors in the modifiers,
if you press the left shift key followed by the right shift key
then you will get uppercased chars for any alphabetical key
until you press again the left or the right shift key and release it.

   I tested this without loading any xmodmap
and the behavior is the same (of course I then have the US keyboard layout)

   Any ideas what could be wrong here, can it be a configuration
issue or is this a server bug ?
   I tried also to run xev from a remote machine and the result is exactly 
the same,
this seems in favor of a server related problem, no ?

Futhermore, the AltGr key which seemed to work for me this morning
(with the xmodmap.fr laoded), does not seem to work anymore...
strange, as I didn't change really much in my setup!





Pierre Muller
Institut Charles Sadron
6,rue Boussingault
F 67083 STRASBOURG CEDEX (France)
mailto:muller@ics.u-strasbg.fr
Phone : (33)-3-88-41-40-07  Fax : (33)-3-88-41-40-99

RE: Keyboard problems

[Harold Hunt]

Pierre,

I've downloaded the source code for vnc on Windows.  VNC has a pretty clear
method of dealing with the AltGr key, so I'll be reworking the AltGr
handling within the next couple of days.

Oh, I should state the AltGr, until now, has not been handled at all;
therefore, the operational status of AltGr on various computers will be
completely random.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com
> [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com]On Behalf Of
> Pierre Muller
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:41 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Keyboard problems
>
>
>
>
>    The X server seems to make strange things under win95 at least:
>
> Several keys when hold pressed generate series of keypress
> keyrelease events
> (like the shift key or the right windows key)
>
> This leads to errors in the modifiers,
> if you press the left shift key followed by the right shift key
> then you will get uppercased chars for any alphabetical key
> until you press again the left or the right shift key and release it.
>
>    I tested this without loading any xmodmap
> and the behavior is the same (of course I then have the US
> keyboard layout)
>
>    Any ideas what could be wrong here, can it be a configuration
> issue or is this a server bug ?
>    I tried also to run xev from a remote machine and the
> result is exactly
> the same,
> this seems in favor of a server related problem, no ?
>
> Futhermore, the AltGr key which seemed to work for me this morning
> (with the xmodmap.fr laoded), does not seem to work anymore...
> strange, as I didn't change really much in my setup!
>
>
>
>
>
> Pierre Muller
> Institut Charles Sadron
> 6,rue Boussingault
> F 67083 STRASBOURG CEDEX (France)
> mailto:muller@ics.u-strasbg.fr
> Phone : (33)-3-88-41-40-07  Fax : (33)-3-88-41-40-99

Re: Keyboard problems

[Francis VIVAT]

Hi,

good news, Harold !

Thanks for the froggies and al. ;-)

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harold Hunt" <huntharo@msu.edu>
To: "'Pierre Muller'" <muller@cerbere.u-strasbg.fr>; <cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com>
Sent: mercredi 18 avril 2001 18:24
Subject: RE: Keyboard problems


> Pierre,
> 
> I've downloaded the source code for vnc on Windows.  VNC has a pretty clear
> method of dealing with the AltGr key, so I'll be reworking the AltGr
> handling within the next couple of days.
> 
> Oh, I should state the AltGr, until now, has not been handled at all;
> therefore, the operational status of AltGr on various computers will be
> completely random.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com
> > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com]On Behalf Of
> > Pierre Muller
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:41 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Keyboard problems
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >    The X server seems to make strange things under win95 at least:
> >
> > Several keys when hold pressed generate series of keypress
> > keyrelease events
> > (like the shift key or the right windows key)
> >
> > This leads to errors in the modifiers,
> > if you press the left shift key followed by the right shift key
> > then you will get uppercased chars for any alphabetical key
> > until you press again the left or the right shift key and release it.
> >
> >    I tested this without loading any xmodmap
> > and the behavior is the same (of course I then have the US
> > keyboard layout)
> >
> >    Any ideas what could be wrong here, can it be a configuration
> > issue or is this a server bug ?
> >    I tried also to run xev from a remote machine and the
> > result is exactly
> > the same,
> > this seems in favor of a server related problem, no ?
> >
> > Futhermore, the AltGr key which seemed to work for me this morning
> > (with the xmodmap.fr laoded), does not seem to work anymore...
> > strange, as I didn't change really much in my setup!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pierre Muller
> > Institut Charles Sadron
> > 6,rue Boussingault
> > F 67083 STRASBOURG CEDEX (France)
> > mailto:muller@ics.u-strasbg.fr
> > Phone : (33)-3-88-41-40-07  Fax : (33)-3-88-41-40-99
> 
> 

Re: Keyboard problems

[Andrew Markebo]

/ "Harold Hunt" <huntharo@msu.edu> wrote:
| Pierre,
| 
| I've downloaded the source code for vnc on Windows.  VNC has a pretty clear
| method of dealing with the AltGr key, so I'll be reworking the AltGr
| handling within the next couple of days.
| 
| Oh, I should state the AltGr, until now, has not been handled at all;
| therefore, the operational status of AltGr on various computers will be
| completely random.
| 
| Harold

Uhm maybe we should send a keyboard with AltGr to Harold :-) I have
one lying around here with an old DIN-connector.. :-)

I suspect the postage will be more than buying a new.. but ahh well, I
can drop it in the companies mailbin ;-)

Do you have any use for it Harold? (Or anyone else) or should it just
lie here gaher dust?

        /Andy

RE: Keyboard problems

[Pierre Muller]

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At 18:24 18/04/01 , vous avez écrit:
>Pierre,
>
>I've downloaded the source code for vnc on Windows.  VNC has a pretty clear
>method of dealing with the AltGr key, so I'll be reworking the AltGr
>handling within the next couple of days.

Thats very nice to hear, I hope this will not be too difficult...
don't hesitate to contact me directly if you want that
I test some changes.

>Oh, I should state the AltGr, until now, has not been handled at all;
>therefore, the operational status of AltGr on various computers will be
>completely random.

Thanks for the info!


Pierre Muller
Institut Charles Sadron
6,rue Boussingault
F 67083 STRASBOURG CEDEX (France)
mailto:muller@ics.u-strasbg.fr
Phone : (33)-3-88-41-40-07  Fax : (33)-3-88-41-40-99

keyboard problems

[Kloosterman, Marcel]

Hi,

I'm using the newest version of cygwin-xfree with windowmaker and I have the following problem.

When I logon to a Sun unix-system (Solaris 5.8) throug ssh I can type characters normally, but when I start vmsa (Veritas Volume Manager Storage Administrator) and have to type I don't see what I really typed. 
For example: login001 becomes login]]1
Another exaple:  test becomes tst

When I start it in the background I also have the problem. Within the xterm from which vmsa was initiated the characters are typed as expected. 
I already tried things like xmodmap, but that doesn't work.

Please help !


Met vriendelijke groeten,

	Marcel Kloosterman
> 	Atos Origin PU EIS SDU UNIX OPS 2.1
> 	* (050) 588 07 63
> 	* 06 10756736
> 	*  marcel.kloosterman@atosorigin.com
> 
> 
> 

Re: keyboard problems

[Harold L Hunt II]

Marcel,

Do you have XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-29?  Are the 00 keys generated with 
AltGr?  If so, you may benefit from 4.3.0-29.  If not, I'm not sure what 
your problem is.

Harold

Kloosterman, Marcel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using the newest version of cygwin-xfree with windowmaker and I have the following problem.
> 
> When I logon to a Sun unix-system (Solaris 5.8) throug ssh I can type characters normally, but when I start vmsa (Veritas Volume Manager Storage Administrator) and have to type I don't see what I really typed. 
> For example: login001 becomes login]]1
> Another exaple:  test becomes tst
> 
> When I start it in the background I also have the problem. Within the xterm from which vmsa was initiated the characters are typed as expected. 
> I already tried things like xmodmap, but that doesn't work.
> 
> Please help !
> 
> 
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> 
> 	Marcel Kloosterman
> 
>>	Atos Origin PU EIS SDU UNIX OPS 2.1
>>	* (050) 588 07 63
>>	* 06 10756736
>>	*  marcel.kloosterman@atosorigin.com
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

Re: keyboard problems

[Kloosterman, Marcel]

Hi Harold,

I just upgraded to XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-43 but the problem is still there ! When I type the 0 (not from numpad) it isn't displayed. When I type the 0 from the NUMPAD it is displayed. Still leaves the e which isn't displayed. And maybe more.....

I think that vmsa uses a different keyboard database. vmsa opened the following file on SUN which is also on my PC (in an other directory) :
	/usr/openwin/lib/X11/XKeysymDB
The files differ. Do you know if I can copy the file from the sun-machine to my PC or the other way ?

Is there a way to block programs to change X-windows settings on my PC ?

With kind regards,

	Marcel Kloosterman