From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5382 invoked by alias); 30 Jun 2010 14:12:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 5357 invoked by uid 22791); 30 Jun 2010 14:12:02 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from relay1.mentorg.com (HELO relay1.mentorg.com) (192.94.38.131) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:11:57 +0000 Received: from svr-orw-exc-08.mgc.mentorg.com ([147.34.98.97]) by relay1.mentorg.com with esmtp id 1OTy14-0007Iq-Si from mike_bradley@mentor.com for cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:11:54 -0700 Received: from na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com ([134.86.114.213]) by SVR-ORW-EXC-08.mgc.mentorg.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:11:54 -0700 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:12:00 -0000 Message-ID: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361891@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> In-Reply-To: <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com> <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> From: "Bradley, Mike" To: X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-xfree-help@cygwin.com; 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30 Jun 2010 14:15:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 7081 invoked by uid 22791); 30 Jun 2010 14:15:19 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from pool-173-76-48-4.bstnma.east.verizon.net (HELO cgf.cx) (173.76.48.4) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.83/v0.83-20-g38e4449) with ESMTP; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:15:13 +0000 Received: from ednor.cgf.cx (ednor.casa.cgf.cx [192.168.187.5]) by cgf.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id C461A13C061 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ednor.cgf.cx (Postfix, from userid 201) id BEC3E2B352; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:15:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly Message-ID: <20100630141511.GB20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com References: <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A89023617C1@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2A7632.3040003@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361860@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AA292.6070300@cygwin.com> <11B1CA4A4D6D674AAC2CCD65E7AC7A8902361878@na2-mail.mgc.mentorg.com> <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com> <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <270AA78168E41541833C52448F4F34AD2373AC90@VHAISHMSGJ2.vha.med.va.gov> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-xfree-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2010-06/txt/msg00064.txt.bz2 Content-length: 2162 On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 09:02:34AM -0500, Timares, Brian (Harris) wrote: >Larry Hall (Cygwin X) wrote: >>On 6/30/2010 1:07 AM, Bradley, Mike wrote: >>> OK, I removed my old cygwin installation (the directory which contains/usr, >>> /bin/, etc.), and re-installed a new version. I kept the "cygwin_package" >>> directory, but setup.exe did not remember my previous installation. In the >>> past I have had to install cygwin on multiple machines, and it would be nice >>> to learn a way to have a file which describes the packages I want to install, >>> rather than having to recall them all. >> >>'setup.exe' doesn't remember your previous installations - ones you have >>removed. There'd be little call for that kind of functionality. 'setup.exe' > >I disagree. I've had to reinstall cygwin from scratch several times, >and also have different coworkers who can benefit from cygwin, but >saying "Go through the long list of groupings, including the even >longer sublist of packages, ignoring lib*" is not very helpful. Most >of my coworkers are not sysadmins or Unix gurus so they look at a lot >of packages and say "I'll just use puTTY". And it takes a lot of time. >But no one wants EVERYTHING, a lot of it is not useful to us. You misunderstand what Larry is saying. He is referring to wiping out your installation and then expecting Cygwin to magically remember what you used to have. You are talking about having a fixed set of packages to install and apparently expect that you will be able to use software without actually investigating how to use it. If you read the documentation on setup.exe you'll find how to specify the packages you want on the command line. If you make a .bat file available with the right packages then all of the poor non-UNIX-gurus who can't figure out how to pick "openssh" from a list will be able to just run "pleasedoitforme.bat" . OTOH, why not use putty if you don't know linux? cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/