public inbox for cygwin-xfree@sourceware.org
help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Chris Green <chris@areti.co.uk>
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Possible to use clipboard with remote/xdm connection?
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:43:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040102224336.GB5789@areti.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.55.0401022035300.1992@lupus.ago.vpn>

On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 09:13:26PM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> Chris Green wrote:
> 
> > > Same with the gates of a castle. To get in, you must open it from inside.
> > > This is the main principle of security. You can not allow those who have
> > > no access to change the permissions.
> > >
> > ... but I am "within the castle", I'm sitting running a script on the
> > win2k system
> 
> The win2k system and xwin are two different systems.
> 
Not in this situation, they're both running on a machine to which I
have administrator and root (if you want to call it that) access.
Thus in reality I have access to *everything* that's going on in the
machine.  Whatever 'security' X wants to put in my way I can (if I'm a
reasonably capable programmer) circumvent.


> The first may be used by more than one person and the second must only be
> used by you.
> 
Why must xwin only be used by me?


> Just imagine someone wants to steal a password from you and starts a client
> which registers all keystrokes entered in a xterm. This program can be started
> from a linux box or from the win2k system itself. The X11 security model tries
> to prevent this by not allowing any connection that is not started by you.
> 
But the connection from which I wanted to run xwinclip *was* run by
me.


> > and I can't see how to run xwinclip there because it
> > won't give me permission to display on the terminal that I'm already
> > using.
> 
> If you've lost your key you'll be able to leave your house but are not able
> to enter it again. These are two different situations and the design is good
> but you have a problem if you've lost your key.
> 
Not round here, no need to lock houses, it makes life *much* simpler
to live.  Security is a huge waste of human resources with very few
advantages or uses.

-- 
Chris Green (chris@areti.co.uk)


  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-02 22:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-31 23:21 Chris Green
     [not found] ` <3FF34EE3.9070300@msu.edu>
2004-01-01 15:37   ` Chris Green
2004-01-01 18:26     ` Alexander Gottwald
2004-01-02 14:04       ` Chris Green
2004-01-02 14:33         ` Alexander Gottwald
2004-01-02 14:44           ` Chris Green
2004-01-02 15:20             ` Chris Green
2004-01-02 17:27               ` Alexander Gottwald
2004-01-02 18:03                 ` Chris Green
2004-01-02 19:33                   ` Alexander Gottwald
2004-01-02 19:49                     ` Thomas Dickey
2004-01-02 20:15                       ` Alexander Gottwald
2004-01-02 20:56                         ` Thomas Dickey
2004-01-02 21:33                           ` Harold L Hunt II
2004-01-02 21:40                             ` Thomas Dickey
2004-01-02 21:44                               ` Harold L Hunt II
2004-01-02 22:50                     ` Chris Green
2004-01-02 23:50                       ` [OT] " Igor Pechtchanski
2004-01-03  0:07                         ` Thomas Dickey
2004-01-03 12:22                         ` Chris Green
2004-01-02 16:10             ` Alexander Gottwald
2004-01-02 18:00               ` Chris Green
2004-01-02 18:28                 ` Harold L Hunt II
2004-01-02 18:50                   ` Chris Green
2004-01-02 19:20                     ` Harold L Hunt II
2004-01-02 22:50                       ` Chris Green
2004-01-02 20:13                 ` Alexander Gottwald
2004-01-02 22:43                   ` Chris Green [this message]
2004-01-03 11:00                     ` Alexander Gottwald
2004-01-12 19:57 Kevin Markle
2004-01-12 20:00 ` Harold L Hunt II

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20040102224336.GB5789@areti.co.uk \
    --to=chris@areti.co.uk \
    --cc=cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).