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* RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
@ 2010-06-29 14:50 Bradley, Mike
  2010-06-29 14:55 ` Markus Hoenicka
  2010-06-29 22:39 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Bradley, Mike @ 2010-06-29 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

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From: Bradley, Mike 
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:47 AM
To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
Subject: startxwin/XWin won't start properly

Hi,

All was good, till a couple weeks ago when I added some packages to cygwin, and several packages where also upgraded.  Then xterm response time became very slow.  I tried a second upgrade yesterday, and now I cannot even start an xterm, nor will startxwin start properly.  This is a company computer which has Symantec anti-virus.  I tried disabling that as well.

Here is the most obvious symptom:

% echo $DISPLAY
127.0.0.1:0.0
% /usr/bin/startxwin.exe


waiting for X server to begin accepting connections .
..
giving up.
/usr/bin/startxwin:  Socket type not supported (errno 124):  unable to connect to X server
/usr/bin/startxwin:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

Notice the value of $DISPLAY above, which does not match whats in XWin.0.log (it has :0.0).  No idea how/why that happens.  

Thanks,
-Mike

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Welcome to the XWin X Server
Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
Release: 1.8.0.0 (10800000)
Build Date: 2010-04-02

Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
XWin was started with the following command line:

X :0 -multiwindow 

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - primary monitor w 1920 h 1200
winInitializeDefaultScreens - native DPI x 96 y 96
winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
[ 80122.640] _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
[ 80122.640] _XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/ncr-mbradley-l2:0
[ 80122.640] _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6
[ 80122.906] winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
[ 80122.906] (II) xorg.conf is not supported
[ 80122.906] (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information
[ 80122.906] LoadPreferences: /cygdrive/c/A_Mike/.XWinrc not found
[ 80122.906] LoadPreferences: Loading /etc/X11/system.XWinrc
[ 80122.906] LoadPreferences: Done parsing the configuration file...
[ 80122.906] winGetDisplay: DISPLAY=:0.0
[ 80122.906] winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP
[ 80122.906] winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
[ 80122.906] winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
[ 80122.906] winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000007
[ 80122.906] winSetEngine - Multi Window or Rootless => ShadowGDI
[ 80122.906] winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel
[ 80122.921] winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 3360 height: 1200 depth: 32
[ 80122.921] winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff
[ 80122.921] winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32
[ 80122.921] null screen fn ReparentWindow
[ 80122.921] null screen fn RestackWindow
[ 80122.921] InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init
[ 80122.921] InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned
[ 80122.921] InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init
[ 80122.921] InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned
[ 80122.921] winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello
[ 80122.921] winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock ()
[ 80122.921] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello
[ 80122.921] Screen 0 added at virtual desktop coordinate (0,0).
[ 80122.921] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock ()
[ 80122.921] MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
[ 80122.937] XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel
[ 80122.953] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so
[ 80122.953] (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0
[ 80122.968] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/TTF/, removing from list!
[ 80122.968] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/OTF/, removing from list!
[ 80122.968] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, removing from list!
[ 80123.265] winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 1680 600
[ 80123.265] (--) 3 mouse buttons found
[ 80123.265] (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
[ 80123.265] (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000409" (00000409) 
[ 80123.265] (--) Using preset keyboard for "English (USA)" (409), type "4"
[ 80123.265] Rules = "base" Model = "pc105" Layout = "us" Variant = "none" Options = "none"
[ 80123.265] winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_lock () returned.
[ 80123.265] winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned.
[ 80123.265] winGetDisplay: DISPLAY=:0.0
[ 80123.265] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_lock () returned.
[ 80123.265] winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=:0.0
[ 80123.265] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned.
[ 80123.265] winInitMultiWindowWM - Could not open display, try: 1, sleeping: 5
[ 80123.265] winGetDisplay: DISPLAY=:0.0
[ 80123.265] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=:0.0
[ 80123.265] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Could not open display, try: 1, sleeping: 5
[ 80128.281] winInitMultiWindowWM - Could not open display, try: 2, sleeping: 5
[ 80128.281] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Could not open display, try: 2, sleeping: 5
[ 80133.281] winInitMultiWindowWM - Could not open display, try: 3, sleeping: 5
[ 80133.281] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Could not open display, try: 3, sleeping: 5
[ 80138.281] winInitMultiWindowWM - Could not open display, try: 4, sleeping: 5
[ 80138.281] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Could not open display, try: 4, sleeping: 5
[ 80143.281] winInitMultiWindowWM - Could not open display, try: 5, sleeping: 5
[ 80143.281] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Could not open display, try: 5, sleeping: 5
[ 80148.281] winInitMultiWindowWM - Failed opening the display.  Exiting.
[ 80148.281] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Failed opening the display.  Exiting.
[ 80148.296] winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress

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Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Tue Jun 29 10:29:37 2010

Windows XP Professional Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3

Path:	.\
	C:\A_Mike\bin
	C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin
	C:\Program Files\Mentor Graphics\Catapult Synthesis 2009a.168 Production Release\Mgc_home\bin
	C:\cygwin\cygwin\usr\local\bin
	C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin
	C:\cygwin\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin
	C:\cygwin\cygwin\usr\sbin
	C:\sw\questasim\questasim_6.6b\win32
	C:\sw\questasim\questasim_6.6b\gcc-4.2.1-mingw32\bin
	C:\Program Files\Mentor Graphics\Precision Synthesis 2010a.218\Mgc_home\bin
	C:\Vista-2.3.1\bin
	C:\WINDOWS\system32
	C:\WINDOWS
	C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader
	C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office11
	C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\bin
	C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\lib
	C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\IDE
	C:\cygwin\cygwin\lib\lapack
	C:\cygwin\cygwin\usr\local\bin
	C:\mentorgraphics\SystemVision5.5\common\win32\lib
	.\
	C:\mentorgraphics\SystemVision5.5\common\win32\bin
	C:\MentorGraphics\HDS2009.1\bin

Output from C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\id.exe
UID: 15204(mbradley)     GID: 10513(Domain Users)
10513(Domain Users)      0(root)                  544(Administrators)
545(Users)

SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\system32
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS

USER = 'mbradley'
PWD = '/cygdrive/c/A_Mike'
HOME = '/cygdrive/c/A_Mike'

HOMEPATH = '\Documents and Settings\mbradley'
SV_BIN = ':/cygdrive/c/mentorgraphics/SystemVision5.5/common/win32/lib::/cygdrive/c/mentorgraphics/SystemVision5.5/common/win32/bin'
JRE = '/usr/java/jre1.5.0_06/'
MANPATH = '/usr/local/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/man::/usr/ssl/man'
APPDATA = 'C:\Documents and Settings\mbradley\Application Data'
VCINC = '/IC:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\include'
c = 'C:/Program Files/Mentor Graphics'
HOSTNAME = 'ncr-mbradley-l2'
SDD_PLATFORM = 'win32'
SDD_LOCAL = 'C:/Documents and Settings/All Users/Application Data/mgc/SystemVision5.5'
SYSTEMC_WINPATH = 'C:/A_Mike/systemc/systemc_2.2.0'
TERM = 'cygwin'
RoxioCentral = 'C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\Roxio Central33\'
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = 'x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 10, GenuineIntel'
WINDIR = 'C:\WINDOWS'
H = 'C:\A_Mike'
SOPC_KIT_NIOS2 = 'c:/sw/quartus/quartus_72/quartus//sopc_builder'
OLDPWD = '/c/cygwin'
WDIR = 'C:/A_Mike/systemvision/work_dir;/cygdrive/c/mentorgraphics/SystemVision5.5/standard'
USERDOMAIN = 'MGC'
HDL_DESIGNER_BIN = ':/cygdrive/c/MentorGraphics/HDS2009.1/bin'
VISTA_ROOT = '/cygdrive/c/Vista-2.3.1/'
OS = 'Windows_NT'
ALLUSERSPROFILE = 'C:\Documents and Settings\All Users'
p = '/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Mentor Graphics/Precision Synthesis 2010a.218/Mgc_home/../'
q = '/cygdrive/c/sw/questasim'
MTI_HOME = '/cygdrive/c/sw/questasim/questasim_6.6b'
COMSPEC = 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe'
TEMP = '/cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/mbradley/LOCALS~1/Temp'
COMMONPROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files\Common Files'
PRECISION = '/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Mentor Graphics/Precision Synthesis 2010a.218/Mgc_home'
CCS_MSVC = 'C:\Program Files\Mentor Graphics\Catapult Synthesis 2009a.168 Production Release\Mgc_home'
CCS_HOME = 'C:/Program Files/Mentor Graphics/Catapult Synthesis 2009a.168 Production Release/Mgc_home'
V = '/cygdrive/c/Vista-2.3.1/'
QTJAVA = 'C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\ext\QTJava.zip'
USERNAME = 'mbradley'
SDD_WV = 'wv'
SDD_VERSION = 'SystemVision5.5'
PROCESSOR_LEVEL = '6'
QUARTUS_ROOTDIR = 'c:/sw/quartus/quartus_72/quartus/'
SDD_START = 'start'
SDD_STARTBAT = 'start /b /wait'
FP_NO_HOST_CHECK = 'NO'
SYSTEMDRIVE = 'C:'
XILINX_LIB = 'c:/sw/xilinx/ISE_9.1i'
SV_HOME = 'c:/mentorgraphics/SystemVision5.5'
LANG = 'C.UTF-8'
USERPROFILE = 'C:\Documents and Settings\mbradley'
CLIENTNAME = 'Console'
MODEL_TECH = 'c:/sw/questasim/questasim_6.6b/win32'
SYSTEMC_HOME = '/cygdrive/c/A_Mike/systemc/systemc_2.2.0'
PS1 = '`echo $PWD | sed "s:.*/::"`> '
LOGONSERVER = '\\SVR-NCR-ADC-01'
SDD_DX = 'dx'
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = 'x86'
!C: = 'C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin'
QUARTUS_LIB = 'c:/sw/quartus/quartus_72/quartus//libraries'
SHLVL = '1'
USERDNSDOMAIN = 'MGC.MENTORG.COM'
PATHEXT = '.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH'
SDD_HOME = 'c:/mentorgraphics/SystemVision5.5'
HOMEDRIVE = 'C:'
CI = 'C:/Program Files/Mentor Graphics/Catapult Synthesis 2009a.168 Production Release/Mgc_home/shared/include'
PROMPT = '$P$G'
TMP = '/cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/mbradley/LOCALS~1/Temp'
SYSTEMROOT = 'C:\WINDOWS'
SDD_SIM = 'sim'
XVCO = 'ixn'
PRINTER = 'Brother MFC-7820N Printer'
CVS_RSH = '/bin/ssh'
PROCESSOR_REVISION = '0f0a'
MGLS_LICENSE_FILE = 'C:\A_Mike\license\mgc.lic'
SVX = 'c:/mentorgraphics/SystemVision5.5/sim/systemvision/svx'
perlinterp = 'c:\mentorgraphics\SystemVision5.6\common\win32\perl\bin\mswin32-x86\perl'
CLASSPATH = '.;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\ext\QTJava.zip'
SV_ROOT = 'c:/mentorgraphics/SystemVision5.5/sim/systemvision'
SDD_COMMON_BIN = 'c:/mentorgraphics/SystemVision5.5/common/win32/bin'
EPD_VLPERL_BIN = 'c:/mentorgraphics/SystemVision5.5/common/win32/perl/bin/mswin32-x86'
CATAPULT = 'C:/Program Files/Mentor Graphics/Catapult Synthesis 2009a.168 Production Release/Mgc_home'
PROMPT_COMMAND = 'echo -ne "\033]0; ${PWD} \007"'
INFOPATH = '/usr/local/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/info:'
PROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files'
DISPLAY = ':0.0'
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = '2'
VCO = 'ixn'
asl.log = 'Destination=file;OnFirstLog=command,environment'
SESSIONNAME = 'Console'
XILINX = 'c:/sw/xilinx/ISE_9.1i'
SW = 'C:/Program Files/Mentor Graphics'
COMPUTERNAME = 'NCR-MBRADLEY-L2'
CCS_WINPATH = 'C:/Program Files/Mentor Graphics/Catapult Synthesis 2009a.168 Production Release/Mgc_home'
MODEL_BUILDER_HOME = '/cygdrive/c/Vista-2.3.1//Model_Builder'
_ = '/bin/cygcheck'

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin\setup
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MenuOrder\Start Menu2\Programs\Cygwin
  (default) = (unsupported type)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MenuOrder\Start Menu2\Programs\Cygwin-X
  (default) = (unsupported type)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\Installations
  (default) = '\??\C:\cygwin'
  3c6f49eef4189922 = '\??\C:\cygwin\cygwin'
  2280b04d9e200730 = '\??\C:\cygwin\cygdrive'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\setup
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin\cygwin'

obcaseinsensitive set to 1

Cygwin installations found in the registry:
  System: Key: c5e39b7a9d22bafb Path: C:\cygwin (ORPHANED)
  System: Key: 3c6f49eef4189922 Path: C:\cygwin\cygwin
  System: Key: 2280b04d9e200730 Path: C:\cygwin\cygdrive (ORPHANED)

c:  hd  NTFS    476843Mb  28% CP CS UN PA FC     
d:  cd             N/A    N/A                    
e:  fd             N/A    N/A                    
f:  fd             N/A    N/A                    
g:  fd             N/A    N/A                    
h:  fd             N/A    N/A                    

C:\cygwin\cygwin      /          system  binary,auto
C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin  /usr/bin   system  binary,auto
C:\cygwin\cygwin\lib  /usr/lib   system  binary,auto
cygdrive prefix       /cygdrive  user    binary,auto

Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\awk
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\awk
 -> C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\gawk.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cp.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cp.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe
 -> C:\cygwin\cygwin\etc\alternatives\cpp
 -> C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cpp-4.exe
Not Found: crontab
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\find.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\find.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\find.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\find.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\find.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe
 -> C:\cygwin\cygwin\etc\alternatives\gcc
 -> C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\gcc-4.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\grep.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\grep.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\kill.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\kill.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\ld.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\ld.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\make.exe
Found: C:\Program Files\Mentor Graphics\Catapult Synthesis 2009a.168 Production Release\Mgc_home\bin\make.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\make.exe hides C:\Program Files\Mentor Graphics\Catapult Synthesis 2009a.168 Production Release\Mgc_home\bin\make.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\make.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\mv.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\mv.exe
Not Found: patch
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\perl.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\perl.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\rm.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\rm.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\sed.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\sed.exe
Not Found: ssh
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\sh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\sh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\tar.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\tar.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\test.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\test.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\vi
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\vi
 -> C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\vim-nox.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\vim
Found: C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\vim
 -> C:\cygwin\cygwin\etc\alternatives\vim
 -> C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\vim-nox.exe

   80k 2009/09/15 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygaa-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygaa-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2009/9/15 6:05
  382k 2010/01/05 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygAfterImage-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygAfterImage-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2010/1/5 16:08
   20k 2007/07/29 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygao-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygao-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2007/7/29 14:06
  118k 2010/04/19 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygapr-1-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygapr-1-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2010/4/19 15:06
   87k 2009/08/07 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygaprutil-1-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygaprutil-1-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2009/8/7 16:46
  221k 2010/04/13 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygarchive-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygarchive-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2010/4/12 21:47
  273k 2009/12/22 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygarpack-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygarpack-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2009/12/22 14:28
   80k 2010/05/13 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygart_lgpl_2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygart_lgpl_2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2010/5/12 20:46
  280k 2009/04/03 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygasprintf-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygasprintf-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2009/4/2 21:14
   15k 2009/12/27 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygattr-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygattr-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2009/11/18 7:52
  128k 2010/06/14 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygaudiofile-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygaudiofile-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2010/6/14 19:04
  172k 2010/05/30 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygautotrace-3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygautotrace-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2010/5/30 8:07
   95k 2010/06/24 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygblkid-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygblkid-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2010/6/24 15:20
  351k 2008/01/14 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygboost_date_time-gcc-mt-1_33_1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.33 sys=4.0
                  "cygboost_date_time-gcc-mt-1_33_1.dll" v0.0 ts=2008/1/14 3:36
   64k 2010/05/17 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygboost_date_time-mt-1_43.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygboost_date_time-mt-1_43.dll" v0.0 ts=2010/5/16 22:04
  120k 2008/01/14 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygboost_filesystem-gcc-mt-1_33_1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.33 sys=4.0
                  "cygboost_filesystem-gcc-mt-1_33_1.dll" v0.0 ts=2008/1/14 3:36
   76k 2010/05/17 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygboost_filesystem-mt-1_43.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygboost_filesystem-mt-1_43.dll" v0.0 ts=2010/5/16 22:04
  346k 2010/05/17 C:\cygwin\cygwin\bin\cygboost_graph-mt-1_43.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygboost_graph-mt-1_43.dll" v0.0 ts=2010/5/16 22:04
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* RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
  2010-06-29 14:50 startxwin/XWin won't start properly Bradley, Mike
@ 2010-06-29 14:55 ` Markus Hoenicka
  2010-06-29 15:23   ` Bradley, Mike
  2010-06-29 22:39 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Markus Hoenicka @ 2010-06-29 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

"Bradley, Mike" <mike_bradley@mentor.com> was heard to say:

> Notice the value of $DISPLAY above, which does not match whats in  
> XWin.0.log (it has :0.0).Â  No idea how/why that happens.Â 
>

$DISPLAY is empty over here unless I manually set it. But then, I'm  
not sure if it has something to do with your problems, as  
127.0.0.1:0.0 points to the first display on localhost, which IMHO  
isn't all that wrong. What happens if you set $DISPLAY manually, e.g.  
to ":0.0". This always worked fine for me.

regards,
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* RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
  2010-06-29 14:55 ` Markus Hoenicka
@ 2010-06-29 15:23   ` Bradley, Mike
  2010-06-29 15:44     ` Markus Hoenicka
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Bradley, Mike @ 2010-06-29 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

I don't see any difference if I set DISPLAY to :0.0 or 127.0.0.1:0.0.  However, in the past its only worked if I set to 127.0.0.1:0.0


-----Original Message-----
From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Markus Hoenicka
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:55 AM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly

"Bradley, Mike" <mike_bradley@mentor.com> was heard to say:

> Notice the value of $DISPLAY above, which does not match whats in  
> XWin.0.log (it has :0.0).  No idea how/why that happens. 
>

$DISPLAY is empty over here unless I manually set it. But then, I'm  
not sure if it has something to do with your problems, as  
127.0.0.1:0.0 points to the first display on localhost, which IMHO  
isn't all that wrong. What happens if you set $DISPLAY manually, e.g.  
to ":0.0". This always worked fine for me.

regards,
Markus


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* RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
  2010-06-29 15:23   ` Bradley, Mike
@ 2010-06-29 15:44     ` Markus Hoenicka
  2010-06-29 15:48       ` Bradley, Mike
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Markus Hoenicka @ 2010-06-29 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

"Bradley, Mike" <mike_bradley@mentor.com> was heard to say:

> I don't see any difference if I set DISPLAY to :0.0 or  
> 127.0.0.1:0.0.  However, in the past its only worked if I set to  
> 127.0.0.1:0.0
>

My current procedure to start X is as follows:

1. do not set $DISPLAY anywhere. It is just empty.
2. open MinTTY
3. type something like "startxwin /usr/bin/emacs"

That's about it.

regards,
Markus

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* RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
  2010-06-29 15:44     ` Markus Hoenicka
@ 2010-06-29 15:48       ` Bradley, Mike
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Bradley, Mike @ 2010-06-29 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree


I just tried your procedure, but still get the same error messages from
startxwin.  Maybe there is some helpful information in the logfiles I
sent?


-----Original Message-----
From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Markus Hoenicka
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:45 AM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly

"Bradley, Mike" <mike_bradley@mentor.com> was heard to say:

> I don't see any difference if I set DISPLAY to :0.0 or  
> 127.0.0.1:0.0.  However, in the past its only worked if I set to  
> 127.0.0.1:0.0
>

My current procedure to start X is as follows:

1. do not set $DISPLAY anywhere. It is just empty.
2. open MinTTY
3. type something like "startxwin /usr/bin/emacs"

That's about it.

regards,
Markus

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* Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
  2010-06-29 14:50 startxwin/XWin won't start properly Bradley, Mike
  2010-06-29 14:55 ` Markus Hoenicka
@ 2010-06-29 22:39 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
  2010-06-29 22:56   ` Bradley, Mike
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Larry Hall (Cygwin X) @ 2010-06-29 22:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On 6/29/2010 10:50 AM, Bradley, Mike wrote:
> Hi,
>
> All was good, till a couple weeks ago when I added some packages to cygwin,
> and several packages where also upgraded.  Then xterm response time became
> very slow.  I tried a second upgrade yesterday, and now I cannot even start
> an xterm, nor will startxwin start properly.  This is a company computer
> which has Symantec anti-virus.  I tried disabling that as well.
>
> Here is the most obvious symptom:
>
> % echo $DISPLAY 127.0.0.1:0.0 % /usr/bin/startxwin.exe
>
>
> waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . .. giving up.
> /usr/bin/startxwin:  Socket type not supported (errno 124):  unable to
> connect to X server /usr/bin/startxwin:  No such process (errno 3):  Server
> error.
>
> Notice the value of $DISPLAY above, which does not match whats in XWin.0.log
> (it has :0.0).  No idea how/why that happens.

Remove the DISPLAY setting.  Update your installation (your cygwin package is
out-of-date).  You also have a couple of orphaned installations of Cygwin.
Make sure those are all cleaned up/out.

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* RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
  2010-06-29 22:39 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
@ 2010-06-29 22:56   ` Bradley, Mike
  2010-06-30  1:49     ` Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Bradley, Mike @ 2010-06-29 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree, cygwin-xfree

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Hi,

In the past I have not found a good way to "remember" which packages where installed (e.g. non-default packages).  Is there a file/way to run setup.exe so that a specified set of packages are installed?

I say this, because the only way I know to clean up the install is to delete it, and re-install.

(I have several times just run setup.exe, and it does seem to update some packages, but as you state, it is not completely clean)

Thanks,
-Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:40 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly

On 6/29/2010 10:50 AM, Bradley, Mike wrote:
> Hi,
>
> All was good, till a couple weeks ago when I added some packages to cygwin,
> and several packages where also upgraded.  Then xterm response time became
> very slow.  I tried a second upgrade yesterday, and now I cannot even start
> an xterm, nor will startxwin start properly.  This is a company computer
> which has Symantec anti-virus.  I tried disabling that as well.
>
> Here is the most obvious symptom:
>
> % echo $DISPLAY 127.0.0.1:0.0 % /usr/bin/startxwin.exe
>
>
> waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . .. giving up.
> /usr/bin/startxwin:  Socket type not supported (errno 124):  unable to
> connect to X server /usr/bin/startxwin:  No such process (errno 3):  Server
> error.
>
> Notice the value of $DISPLAY above, which does not match whats in XWin.0.log
> (it has :0.0).  No idea how/why that happens.

Remove the DISPLAY setting.  Update your installation (your cygwin package is
out-of-date).  You also have a couple of orphaned installations of Cygwin.
Make sure those are all cleaned up/out.

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>> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
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* Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
  2010-06-29 22:56   ` Bradley, Mike
@ 2010-06-30  1:49     ` Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
  2010-06-30  5:07       ` Bradley, Mike
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Larry Hall (Cygwin X) @ 2010-06-30  1:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On 6/29/2010 6:56 PM, Bradley, Mike wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@... [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@...] On Behalf Of Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:40 PM
>> To: cygwin-xfree@...
>> Subject: Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly

<http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR>  Also, there's nothing to be
gained (and plenty to be lost) by including unneeded headers in your
reply.  Please consider removing them in future correspondences with the
list.

<snip>

>> Remove the DISPLAY setting.  Update your installation (your cygwin package
>> is out-of-date).  You also have a couple of orphaned installations of
>> Cygwin. Make sure those are all cleaned up/out.
>>
> Hi,
>
> In the past I have not found a good way to "remember" which packages where
> installed (e.g. non-default packages).  Is there a file/way to run setup.exe
> so that a specified set of packages are installed?

Not surprisingly, Chris got this right on the nose.  It would be ludicrous
for me to embellish. :-)

<snip>

> (I have several times just run setup.exe, and it does seem to update some
> packages, but as you state, it is not completely clean)

Actually, that's not what I meant at all.  Your cygcheck output showed that
you had, at one time, installed Cygwin to C:\cygwin and C:\cygwin\cygdrive,
both of which are now "ORPHANED", meaning that at least some (could be all)
of the installation is now missing.  You should make sure that the entire
installation has been deleted in both places.  Once that is true, you should
run 'cygcheck --delete-orphaned-installation-keys' so that cygcheck will not
report those directories anymore.  This is something completely different
from 'setup.exe' and its installation process.  'setup.exe' knows what it
has installed and where and will maintain those packages (updating them as
required and requested) whenever you run it.  It cannot, however, maintain
an installation if it has been removed or manipulated by other tools, which
is what seems to have happened to your two orphaned installations.  So you
need to finish cleaning these up as I described above.  It may simply be a
bookkeeping exercise or it might be more than that.  But it's worth checking
out.

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* RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
  2010-06-30  1:49     ` Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
@ 2010-06-30  5:07       ` Bradley, Mike
       [not found]         ` <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com>
       [not found]         ` <20100630141036.GA20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Bradley, Mike @ 2010-06-30  5:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

> In the past I have not found a good way to "remember" which packages where
> installed (e.g. non-default packages).  Is there a file/way to run setup.exe
> so that a specified set of packages are installed?

OK, I removed my old cygwin installation (the directory which contains /usr, /bin/, etc.), and re-installed a new version.  I kept the "cygwin_package" directory, but setup.exe did not remember my previous installation.  In the past I have had to install cygwin on multiple machines, and it would be nice to learn a way to have a file which describes the packages I want to install, rather than having to recall them all.

> Actually, that's not what I meant at all.  Your cygcheck output showed that
> you had, at one time, installed Cygwin to C:\cygwin and C:\cygwin\cygdrive,
> both of which are now "ORPHANED", meaning that at least some (could be all)
> of the installation is now missing.  You should make sure that the entire
> installation has been deleted in both places.  
> ...

I did remove the orphaned directires, but it did not help.  The good news is a complete re-install of cygwin does work, so I am (almost) up and running :-)

Thanks,
-Mike

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* RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
       [not found]         ` <4C2AD3D0.60707@cygwin.com>
@ 2010-06-30 14:02           ` Timares, Brian (Harris)
  2010-06-30 14:12             ` Bradley, Mike
       [not found]             ` <20100630141511.GB20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Timares, Brian (Harris) @ 2010-06-30 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

Larry Hall (Cygwin X) wrote:
>On 6/30/2010 1:07 AM, Bradley, Mike wrote:
>> OK, I removed my old cygwin installation (the directory which contains/usr,
>> /bin/, etc.), and re-installed a new version.  I kept the "cygwin_package"
>> directory, but setup.exe did not remember my previous installation.  In the
>> past I have had to install cygwin on multiple machines, and it would be nice
>> to learn a way to have a file which describes the packages I want to install,
>> rather than having to recall them all.
>
>'setup.exe' doesn't remember your previous installations - ones you have
>removed.  There'd be little call for that kind of functionality.  'setup.exe'

I disagree.  I've had to reinstall cygwin from scratch several times, and also have different coworkers who can benefit from cygwin, but saying "Go through the long list of groupings, including the even longer sublist of packages, ignoring lib*" is not very helpful.  Most of my coworkers are not sysadmins or Unix gurus so they look at a lot of packages and say "I'll just use puTTY".  And it takes a lot of time.  But no one wants EVERYTHING, a lot of it is not useful to us.

It would be great to be able to have a file I can email them saying "Use this, it'll load everything you need.".  And of course have a copy for myself for when I get a new machine, or the OS has to be reloaded, or I have cygwin problems (perhaps related to the anti-virus, but still).

Such a thing would be great for anyone who wants to test the bleeding edge.  If they knew rolling back was simple they'd be encouraged to be daring.

>does allow you to install from a local directory though.  So if you keep
>the directory that contained all the packages you've downloaded previously,
>you can point 'setup.exe' at this directory and tell it to install everything.

This will help me in some cases, though it won't for my coworkers (none of whom are local to my area).

If I renamed the local directory from, say "http%3a%2f%2fmirror.mcs.anl.gov%2fcygwin%2f" to say "http%3a%2f%2fmirror.cs.vt.edu%2fcygwin%2f, will that work?

Brian Timares

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* RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
  2010-06-30 14:02           ` Timares, Brian (Harris)
@ 2010-06-30 14:12             ` Bradley, Mike
       [not found]             ` <20100630141511.GB20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Bradley, Mike @ 2010-06-30 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

> It would be great to be able to have a file I can email them saying "Use this, it'll load everything you need.".  And of 
> course have a copy for myself for when I get a new machine, or the OS has to be reloaded, or I have cygwin problems 
> 
> Such a thing would be great for anyone who wants to test the bleeding edge.  If they knew rolling back was simple they'd be > encouraged to be daring.

Absolutely!  And I suspect a relatively easy modification/addition for setup.exe.  It already has the concept of what's loaded, it's just a matter of storing this off into a single file that is read on subsequent runs of setup.exe.  
Then when the new install is complete the file is written to.  

In practice setup.exe would ask if you want to use the default configuration file, or load a separate one.  The default
Would always be written to.  After install the user would then copy and store the default configuration file as a separate one for subsequent use.

-Mike

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* Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
       [not found]             ` <20100630141511.GB20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx>
@ 2010-06-30 14:20               ` Tim Prince
  2010-06-30 15:23               ` Timares, Brian (Harris)
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Tim Prince @ 2010-06-30 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On 6/30/2010 10:15 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>
> OTOH, why not use putty if you don't know linux?
>
>    
You haven't been mean enough.  ssh is easier to use than putty, 
regardless of knowledge of linux.

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* RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
       [not found]         ` <20100630141036.GA20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx>
@ 2010-06-30 14:36           ` Bradley, Mike
  2010-06-30 14:43             ` Christopher Faylor
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Bradley, Mike @ 2010-06-30 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

> So, after being told that Cygwin remembers your previous installation
> and to just run setup.exe, you removed your previous installation and
> are surprised that Cygwin doesn't remember it.

What I did was re-run setup.exe.  XWin would still not startup.  Then I
Deleted the cygwin install (except for the package directory).
Setup.exe
Did not recall/remember/read the package directory, it did a default
install.

The good news is XWin works now.  The bad news is I must
remember/find/set the
Various packages I need in addition to the default.

I'm confused as to why the notion of setup.exe to leave a
bread-crumb-trail of
what was installed for-the-purpose-of driving a subsequent installation
is such 
a controversial issue....

> Here's some more advice for you to misunderstand/ignore:  Don't do
that.

Uh, I think we have a simple misunderstanding...

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* Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
  2010-06-30 14:36           ` Bradley, Mike
@ 2010-06-30 14:43             ` Christopher Faylor
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Faylor @ 2010-06-30 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 08:36:05AM -0600, Bradley, Mike wrote:
>cgf wrote:
>>So, after being told that Cygwin remembers your previous installation
>>and to just run setup.exe, you removed your previous installation and
>>are surprised that Cygwin doesn't remember it.
>
>What I did was re-run setup.exe.  XWin would still not startup.  Then I
>Deleted the cygwin install (except for the package directory).
>Setup.exe Did not recall/remember/read the package directory, it did a
>default install.

I guess what you're not getting is that the list of installed packages
is located within the cygwin installation itself.  If you wipe out then
setup.exe won't know what's installed.

>The good news is XWin works now.  The bad news is I must
>remember/find/set the
>Various packages I need in addition to the default.
>
>I'm confused as to why the notion of setup.exe to leave a
>bread-crumb-trail of what was installed for-the-purpose-of driving a
>subsequent installation is such a controversial issue....

It's not controversial since setup.exe already does that.  You just
chose to wipe out the record of what's installed.  If you wanted to just
reinstall X you could have just chosen "Reinstall" and not gone through
the pain of wiping out everything.

cgf


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* RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
       [not found]             ` <20100630141511.GB20060@ednor.casa.cgf.cx>
  2010-06-30 14:20               ` Tim Prince
@ 2010-06-30 15:23               ` Timares, Brian (Harris)
  2010-06-30 15:52                 ` Setup retaining or saving package selections (was: startxwin/XWin won't start properly) Timares, Brian (Harris)
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From: Timares, Brian (Harris) @ 2010-06-30 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

cgf,

I'll start off by saying I sense an attitude of "only gurus need apply
and gurus don't need help" from you.  To me that's very OpenBSD, but not
very Cygwin.

If I sense incorrectly, I suggest what you are writing leads me to feel
that way.  If that's correct, I suggest we'll never come to an agreement
and we may as well drop the subject.

Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 09:02:34AM -0500, Timares, Brian (Harris)
wrote:
>>Larry Hall (Cygwin X) wrote:
>>>On 6/30/2010 1:07 AM, Bradley, Mike wrote:
>>>> OK, I removed my old cygwin installation (the directory which
contains/usr,
>>>> /bin/, etc.), and re-installed a new version.  I kept the
"cygwin_package"
>>>> directory, but setup.exe did not remember my previous installation.
In the
>>>> past I have had to install cygwin on multiple machines, and it
would be nice
>>>> to learn a way to have a file which describes the packages I want
to install,
>>>> rather than having to recall them all.
>>>
>>>'setup.exe' doesn't remember your previous installations - ones you
have
>>>removed.  There'd be little call for that kind of functionality.
'setup.exe'
>>
>>I disagree.  I've had to reinstall cygwin from scratch several times,
>>and also have different coworkers who can benefit from cygwin, but
>>saying "Go through the long list of groupings, including the even
>>longer sublist of packages, ignoring lib*" is not very helpful.  Most
>>of my coworkers are not sysadmins or Unix gurus so they look at a lot
>>of packages and say "I'll just use puTTY".  And it takes a lot of
time.
>>But no one wants EVERYTHING, a lot of it is not useful to us.
>
>You misunderstand what Larry is saying.

Actually no, I don't.  Although I will admit as I get older I do miss
more and more and it is frustrating!

>He is referring to wiping out your installation and then expecting
>Cygwin to magically remember what you used to have.

Hmm, I don't recall magic being mentioned.  I know I have had to wipe
out the installation (new laptop, troubles with PC, troubles with Cygwin
where one wants a clean install), or find that my chosen install site
has dropped off the list, or found that some other site has more
up-to-date updates [that matter to me].  And I've wished everytime, from
the first reinstallation to the most recent, that I didn't have to go
through the list, picking what I know is useful and leaving out what my
I don't want or my constraints don't allow.

>You are talking about having a fixed set of packages to install and
>apparently expect that you will be able to use software without
actually
>investigating how to use it.  If you read the documentation on
setup.exe

Yes, then no.  How long has it been since you've gone through the full
list of packages that Cygwin offers?  There are 29 catagories and I am
NOT counting what is underneath them.

Yes, I feel that my coworkers should be able to use, say, X Windows
programs, without understanding unix.  Or if they do know unix, they
should be able to expect that, say, bc is there w/o having to look for
it.

However this discussion more properly belongs on a more general Cygwin
list.  I'll see if it makes sense to post a suggestion there.

>you'll find how to specify the packages you want on the command line.
>If you make a .bat file available with the right packages then all of
>the poor non-UNIX-gurus who can't figure out how to pick "openssh" from
>a list will be able to just run "pleasedoitforme.bat" .

How many packages are we talking about here?  Wait, you don't know.  So
I'll just reject your suggestion as inappropriate for my situation,
although I think for some people it is a pretty good work-around.

What Mike and I want is actually pretty reasonable.  We want to be able
to preserve the work we do in picking the wheat from the chaff (from our
point of view) to avoid having our coworkers or ourselves duplicate that
work, whether they understand Unix or not (I'm sorry I brought it up!
It is largely irrelevant.).  It seems simple--at some point the Setup
program knows what was selected.  It just needs to save it out and be
able to read it back in.

Brian Timares

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* Setup retaining or saving package selections (was: startxwin/XWin won't start properly)
  2010-06-30 15:23               ` Timares, Brian (Harris)
@ 2010-06-30 15:52                 ` Timares, Brian (Harris)
  2010-06-30 18:18                   ` Christopher Faylor
  2010-06-30 16:12                 ` RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly Ryan Johnson
  2010-06-30 17:35                 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Timares, Brian (Harris) @ 2010-06-30 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

Brian Timares (me! self-replying) wrote:
>However this discussion more properly belongs on a more general Cygwin
>list.  I'll see if it makes sense to post a suggestion there.

I found something where cgf says the big reason remembered installs
aren't done are because it takes someone with the time and skills to do
it (SHTDI).
<http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin@cygwin.com/msg62416.html>

I found this
<http://marc.info/?l=cygwin&m=114858695408427&w=2>
which kinda does what I want.  It is still more trouble than I want, but
less than giving someone a list of n packages that I've found useful and
expecting them to go through the list.  Mike, that might be worth a try,
though I don't know if it would still work.

On considering the later link I realize that it might not be 100% as
simple as just saving out a list, unless installing package X
automatically and at that point did dependency resolution.

I find discussions of this going back to 2002, but the search for the
main mail list timed out on me.  Anyway, I have to get back to work so
I'll try to post to the main list after work.

Brian Timares

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* Re: RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
  2010-06-30 15:23               ` Timares, Brian (Harris)
  2010-06-30 15:52                 ` Setup retaining or saving package selections (was: startxwin/XWin won't start properly) Timares, Brian (Harris)
@ 2010-06-30 16:12                 ` Ryan Johnson
  2010-06-30 18:01                   ` Christopher Faylor
  2010-06-30 17:35                 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Ryan Johnson @ 2010-06-30 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: cygwin-xfree

>
> What Mike and I want is actually pretty reasonable.  We want to be able
> to preserve the work we do in picking the wheat from the chaff (from our
> point of view) to avoid having our coworkers or ourselves duplicate that
> work, whether they understand Unix or not (I'm sorry I brought it up!
> It is largely irrelevant.).  It seems simple--at some point the Setup
> program knows what was selected.  It just needs to save it out and be
> able to read it back in.
>    
vote +1

I've also had this need many times. Most recently, the update to the 
latest cygwin dll, which the instructions specifically said should be a 
clean install rather than an in-place upgrade.

Migration wizard would have been nice...

Ryan



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* Re: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
  2010-06-30 15:23               ` Timares, Brian (Harris)
  2010-06-30 15:52                 ` Setup retaining or saving package selections (was: startxwin/XWin won't start properly) Timares, Brian (Harris)
  2010-06-30 16:12                 ` RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly Ryan Johnson
@ 2010-06-30 17:35                 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Larry Hall (Cygwin X) @ 2010-06-30 17:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On 6/30/2010 11:22 AM, Timares, Brian (Harris) wrote:
> What Mike and I want is actually pretty reasonable.  We want to be able
> to preserve the work we do in picking the wheat from the chaff (from our
> point of view) to avoid having our coworkers or ourselves duplicate that
> work, whether they understand Unix or not (I'm sorry I brought it up!
> It is largely irrelevant.).  It seems simple--at some point the Setup
> program knows what was selected.  It just needs to save it out and be
> able to read it back in.

As you mentioned in your follow-up, if what's already supported in
'setup.exe' doesn't meet your needs, you're welcome to modify it.
There are several ways to grab a list of installed packages, as has
been discussed already (assuming an installation exists at the time
you're doing the grabbing).  If you want to the dead-simple approach,
then you need to use 'setup.exe' to manage and maintain your local
installation.  If you need to duplicate that installation elsewhere,
you use the same installation directory and point 'setup.exe' to it
instead of mirrors.  Or you set up your own local mirror that you
maintain with the packages and versions you want and point 'setup.exe'
at that mirror only.  Or you grab the output of 'cygcheck -cd' \
(or /etc/setup/installed.db directly) and gently message it to create
script with calls 'setup.exe' with the list of packages you'd like
from a mirror.

Given all the existing options, it's worth your while to take a good
look at them all and figure out what they give you and what they don't
when matching them against what you need/want.  You may find that the
solution you want is simply an extension of something that's already
there, saving you time and effort all around.  If you decide to create
a patch, those would go to the cygwin-apps list.  Discussion of 'setup.exe'
bugs and enhancements go to that list as well.

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A: Yes.
> Q: Are you sure?
>> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?

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* Re: RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly
  2010-06-30 16:12                 ` RE: startxwin/XWin won't start properly Ryan Johnson
@ 2010-06-30 18:01                   ` Christopher Faylor
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Faylor @ 2010-06-30 18:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 06:11:49PM +0200, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>>
>> What Mike and I want is actually pretty reasonable.  We want to be able
>> to preserve the work we do in picking the wheat from the chaff (from our
>> point of view) to avoid having our coworkers or ourselves duplicate that
>> work, whether they understand Unix or not (I'm sorry I brought it up!
>> It is largely irrelevant.).  It seems simple--at some point the Setup
>> program knows what was selected.  It just needs to save it out and be
>> able to read it back in.
>>    
>vote +1
>
>I've also had this need many times. Most recently, the update to the 
>latest cygwin dll, which the instructions specifically said should be a 
>clean install rather than an in-place upgrade.

Sheesh.  The instructions did *not* say that a clean install was needed.
We tried hard to make sure that wasn't necessary in fact.

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* Re: Setup retaining or saving package selections (was: startxwin/XWin won't start properly)
  2010-06-30 15:52                 ` Setup retaining or saving package selections (was: startxwin/XWin won't start properly) Timares, Brian (Harris)
@ 2010-06-30 18:18                   ` Christopher Faylor
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Faylor @ 2010-06-30 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:51:57AM -0500, Timares, Brian (Harris) wrote:
>Brian Timares (me! self-replying) wrote:
>>However this discussion more properly belongs on a more general Cygwin
>>list.  I'll see if it makes sense to post a suggestion there.
>
>I found something where cgf says the big reason remembered installs
>aren't done are because it takes someone with the time and skills to do
>it (SHTDI).
><http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin@cygwin.com/msg62416.html>

That post is five years old and unrelated to the topic at hand.  This
message is referencing the idea to make a windows library for accessing
the cygwin mount table.  We actually pretty much have that now in fact.

But, that message has nothing to do with this.

>I found this
><http://marc.info/?l=cygwin&m=114858695408427&w=2>
>which kinda does what I want.  It is still more trouble than I want, but
>less than giving someone a list of n packages that I've found useful and
>expecting them to go through the list.  Mike, that might be worth a try,
>though I don't know if it would still work.

You're talking about giving someone a file.  So just give them a .bat
file that contains something like:

setup.exe -P openssh,xorg-x11-base,xorg-x11-bin,xterm

and let them run it.  That will pull in all of the listed packages and
any needed dependencies.

>On considering the later link I realize that it might not be 100% as
>simple as just saving out a list, unless installing package X
>automatically and at that point did dependency resolution.

setup.exe handles dependencies.  That's a big part of its job.

>I find discussions of this going back to 2002, but the search for the
>main mail list timed out on me.  Anyway, I have to get back to work so
>I'll try to post to the main list after work.

You can find the discussion by people who don't know about setup.exe
command-line options nearly every month in the cygwin mailing list.

But, anyway, as Larry says, if you don't like the solutions that are
available to do what you want then offering a patch is how you will make
things happen.  I think most of the setup.exe developers are satisfied
with the way things work now and aren't looking to implement something
else.

cgf

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