Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion

Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion

[Ryan Johnson]

  Hi all,

At some point an annoyance appeared with my xterm windows: The first 
time I use [ctrl]+mouse click in any window, that xterm becomes 
unresponsive for about 5 seconds with the CPU pegged to 100%. After the 
five seconds is up, whatever shell spawned the xterm receives the 
following message:
> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion

After that all works normally (until I open the next xterm window).

Is there a way to diagnose what the problem is? I don't know what 
FontSet string the error even refers to, let alone which parts of that 
string were invalid. In any case, it really shouldn't take five seconds 
of hard CPU crunching to detect and report an invalid input string.

I found one message from last year's archives that mentioned certain 
Japanese fonts, but in that case they knew which fonts were missing. I'd 
rather not go installing every font known to man just in hopes of  
catching the missing one.

Thoughts?
Ryan





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Re: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion

[Thomas Dickey]

On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Ryan Johnson wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> At some point an annoyance appeared with my xterm windows: The first time I 
> use [ctrl]+mouse click in any window, that xterm becomes unresponsive for 
> about 5 seconds with the CPU pegged to 100%. After the five seconds is up, 
> whatever shell spawned the xterm receives the following message:
>> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
>
> After that all works normally (until I open the next xterm window).
>
> Is there a way to diagnose what the problem is? I don't know what FontSet 
> string the error even refers to, let alone which parts of that string were 
> invalid. In any case, it really shouldn't take five seconds of hard CPU 
> crunching to detect and report an invalid input string.

This topic came up last year, iirc the issue was this:

 	http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#slow_menus

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Re: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion

[Jon TURNEY]

On 03/08/2010 10:00, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>> At some point an annoyance appeared with my xterm windows: The first time I
>> use [ctrl]+mouse click in any window, that xterm becomes unresponsive for
>> about 5 seconds with the CPU pegged to 100%. After the five seconds is up,
>> whatever shell spawned the xterm receives the following message:
>>> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
>>
>> After that all works normally (until I open the next xterm window).
>>
>> Is there a way to diagnose what the problem is? I don't know what FontSet
>> string the error even refers to, let alone which parts of that string were
>> invalid. In any case, it really shouldn't take five seconds of hard CPU
>> crunching to detect and report an invalid input string.

There's some more discussion at
http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10948

Installing the fonts font-isas-misc, font-jis-misc and font-daewoo-misc should 
also work around the problem, which can also be seen with other applications, 
as that ensures that at least one font exists for every charset.

I agree that the error message sucks and should tell you the charsets which 
are missing and what string it was attempting to convert.

> This topic came up last year, iirc the issue was this:
>
> http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#slow_menus

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Re: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion

[Andy Koppe]

On 3 August 2010 14:35, Jon TURNEY wrote:
> On 03/08/2010 10:00, Thomas Dickey wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>> At some point an annoyance appeared with my xterm windows: The first time
>>> I
>>> use [ctrl]+mouse click in any window, that xterm becomes unresponsive for
>>> about 5 seconds with the CPU pegged to 100%. After the five seconds is
>>> up,
>>> whatever shell spawned the xterm receives the following message:
>>>>
>>>> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
>>>
>>> After that all works normally (until I open the next xterm window).
>>>
>>> Is there a way to diagnose what the problem is? I don't know what FontSet
>>> string the error even refers to, let alone which parts of that string
>>> were
>>> invalid. In any case, it really shouldn't take five seconds of hard CPU
>>> crunching to detect and report an invalid input string.
>
> There's some more discussion at
> http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10948
>
> Installing the fonts font-isas-misc, font-jis-misc and font-daewoo-misc
> should also work around the problem, which can also be seen with other
> applications, as that ensures that at least one font exists for every
> charset.
>
> I agree that the error message sucks and should tell you the charsets which
> are missing and what string it was attempting to convert.
>
>> This topic came up last year, iirc the issue was this:
>>
>> http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#slow_menus

Could the menuLocale resource setting mentioned there be added to
Cygwin xterm's default config at /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm?

Andy

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Re: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion

[Ryan Johnson]

  On 8/3/2010 3:35 PM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
> On 03/08/2010 10:00, Thomas Dickey wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>>> At some point an annoyance appeared with my xterm windows: The first 
>>> time I
>>> use [ctrl]+mouse click in any window, that xterm becomes 
>>> unresponsive for
>>> about 5 seconds with the CPU pegged to 100%. After the five seconds 
>>> is up,
>>> whatever shell spawned the xterm receives the following message:
>>>> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
>>>
>>> After that all works normally (until I open the next xterm window).
>>>
>>> Is there a way to diagnose what the problem is? I don't know what 
>>> FontSet
>>> string the error even refers to, let alone which parts of that 
>>> string were
>>> invalid. In any case, it really shouldn't take five seconds of hard CPU
>>> crunching to detect and report an invalid input string.
>
> There's some more discussion at
> http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10948
>
> Installing the fonts font-isas-misc, font-jis-misc and 
> font-daewoo-misc should also work around the problem, which can also 
> be seen with other applications, as that ensures that at least one 
> font exists for every charset.
>
> I agree that the error message sucks and should tell you the charsets 
> which are missing and what string it was attempting to convert.
>
>> This topic came up last year, iirc the issue was this:
>>
>> http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#slow_menus
The xterm FAQ's workaround (setting LANG=C) indeed works, but then I 
lose all of UTF-8, including some of the punctuation marks man pages and 
gcc errors like to use.

As I mentioned before, I'd seen references to those fonts but wasn't 
sure it would actually help me. I just installed them and, sure enough, 
there's still some (fewer?) missing charsets.

The delay dropped to only 2-3 seconds now though, so I guess that helps. 
Is there a way to diagnose which fonts/charsets are still missing?

Regards,
Ryan


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Re: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion

[Ryan Johnson]

  On 8/3/2010 3:35 PM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
> On 03/08/2010 10:00, Thomas Dickey wrote:
>> This topic came up last year, iirc the issue was this:
>>
>> http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#slow_menus

Oops... missed the other workaround to set XTerm.menuLocale:C in my 
.Xresources file. All is well now.

Thanks!
Ryan


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Re: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion

[Thomas Dickey]

On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Andy Koppe wrote:

> On 3 August 2010 14:35, Jon TURNEY wrote:
>> On 03/08/2010 10:00, Thomas Dickey wrote:
>>> This topic came up last year, iirc the issue was this:
>>>
>>> http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#slow_menus
>
> Could the menuLocale resource setting mentioned there be added to
> Cygwin xterm's default config at /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm?

fwiw, I made it default in #257 (current is #261)

http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.log.html#xterm_257

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Re: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion

[Jon TURNEY]

On 03/08/2010 16:21, Ryan Johnson wrote:
> As I mentioned before, I'd seen references to those fonts but wasn't sure it
> would actually help me. I just installed them and, sure enough, there's still
> some (fewer?) missing charsets.
>
> The delay dropped to only 2-3 seconds now though, so I guess that helps. Is
> there a way to diagnose which fonts/charsets are still missing?

Hmm.

You could write a small test application which calls XCreateFontSet() with the 
base font of "*" and reports the list of missing charsets returned.

It also seems that twm reports these problems in a slightly more useful 
fashion than libXt (saying "font for charset <charset> is lacking"), so 
running that (against an X server not started in multiwindow mode) might serve 
just as well.

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Re: Re: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion

[Ryan Johnson]

  On 8:59 PM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
> On 03/08/2010 16:21, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>> As I mentioned before, I'd seen references to those fonts but wasn't 
>> sure it
>> would actually help me. I just installed them and, sure enough, 
>> there's still
>> some (fewer?) missing charsets.
>>
>> The delay dropped to only 2-3 seconds now though, so I guess that 
>> helps. Is
>> there a way to diagnose which fonts/charsets are still missing?
>
> Hmm.
>
> You could write a small test application which calls XCreateFontSet() 
> with the base font of "*" and reports the list of missing charsets 
> returned.
>
> It also seems that twm reports these problems in a slightly more 
> useful fashion than libXt (saying "font for charset <charset> is 
> lacking"), so running that (against an X server not started in 
> multiwindow mode) might serve just as well.
>
Hi Jon,

Fortunately (for me, not for the bug hunt) I picked up the newer version 
of xterm at some point, which set the menu locale to "C" and ended the 
problems.

Thanks,
Ryan



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