map mouse button 4 or 5 to button 2?

map mouse button 4 or 5 to button 2?

[Jeffrey J. Gray]

Hi,

Is it possible to have either button 4 or 5 (usually the forward/back 
buttons) send a 'button 2' signal (ie paste) to cygwin applications?  
The reasons for this are (1) since button 2 is on the wheel, pressing 
this button sometimes also accidentally sends a scroll signal making for 
sloppy paste operations and  (2) I just upgraded my mouse, and in the 
new standard configuration, Windows intercepts button 2 and makes it a 
'switch applications' signal.  I need button 2 for Cygwin paste 
operations, so I'm anxious to restore this functionality to my cygwin.

My new mouse/keyboard setup is MS Wireless Optical Desktop Elite (which 
includes a Wireless IntelliMouse Explorer 2.0), and I'm running .... hm, 
not sure how to check my Cygwin version, it's probably ~4 months old 
.... on WinXP.

Thanks for the help,
Jeff

Re: map mouse button 4 or 5 to button 2?

[Chad Haynes]

You should be able to do this using the software that came with the 
mouse.  If you bought it OEM you can download it from Microsofts 
website.  The software should allow you to set different actions for the 
mouse buttons based on what program you currently using.

-Chad

Jeffrey J. Gray wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to have either button 4 or 5 (usually the forward/back 
> buttons) send a 'button 2' signal (ie paste) to cygwin applications?  
> The reasons for this are (1) since button 2 is on the wheel, pressing 
> this button sometimes also accidentally sends a scroll signal making 
> for sloppy paste operations and  (2) I just upgraded my mouse, and in 
> the new standard configuration, Windows intercepts button 2 and makes 
> it a 'switch applications' signal.  I need button 2 for Cygwin paste 
> operations, so I'm anxious to restore this functionality to my cygwin.
>
> My new mouse/keyboard setup is MS Wireless Optical Desktop Elite 
> (which includes a Wireless IntelliMouse Explorer 2.0), and I'm running 
> .... hm, not sure how to check my Cygwin version, it's probably ~4 
> months old .... on WinXP.
>
> Thanks for the help,
> Jeff

Checking Cygwin version (FAQ Alert!) (Was Re: map mouse button 4 or 5 to button 2?)

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Jeffrey J. Gray wrote:

> [snip]
> ... and I'm running .... hm, not sure how to check my Cygwin version,
> it's probably ~4 months old .... on WinXP.

Jeff,

Just like on any Unix system, "uname -srv" will return the kernel (in
Cygwin's case, cygwin1.dll) version.  On Cygwin, you can also use
"cygcheck -srv" to get detailed information about your system (essential
for diagnosing Cygwin problems, see <http://cygwin.com/problems.html>), or
"cygcheck -cd" to just get the versions of all installed packages (or omit
the "-d" flag to also check them for integrity).  If you post the output
of either "cygcheck -srv" or "cygcheck -cd", please *attach* it to your
message, rather than including it inline.
	Igor
P.S. I was surprised that this isn't in the FAQ.  David, could you please
add this, under the heading "What version of Cygwin do I have?" or
something?  Oh, and BTW, there's a "What version is this, anyway?" entry
that has nothing to do with this question, and is pretty confusing.
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Re: map mouse button 4 or 5 to button 2?

[Takuma Murakami]

Jeffrey,

> Is it possible to have either button 4 or 5 (usually the forward/back 
> buttons) send a 'button 2' signal (ie paste) to cygwin applications?  

Chad shows the best way for your purpose.  As a note, you
can swap mouse buttons via xmodmap command in UNIX like
environments.  For this case
xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 5 3 4 2"
swaps button 2 and button 5.

> My new mouse/keyboard setup is MS Wireless Optical Desktop Elite (which 
> includes a Wireless IntelliMouse Explorer 2.0), and I'm running .... hm, 
> not sure how to check my Cygwin version, it's probably ~4 months old 
> ... on WinXP.

The xmodmap way works well on Cygwin/X versions newer than
release-22 (released on 2003-11-9).

Takuma Murakami

Re: map mouse button 4 or 5 to button 2?

[J S]

Just to confuse the issue further (sorry), can I map the right mouse button 
to CTRL+F9 ?

JS.

>Jeffrey,
>
> > Is it possible to have either button 4 or 5 (usually the forward/back
> > buttons) send a 'button 2' signal (ie paste) to cygwin applications?
>
>Chad shows the best way for your purpose.  As a note, you
>can swap mouse buttons via xmodmap command in UNIX like
>environments.  For this case
>xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 5 3 4 2"
>swaps button 2 and button 5.
>
> > My new mouse/keyboard setup is MS Wireless Optical Desktop Elite (which
> > includes a Wireless IntelliMouse Explorer 2.0), and I'm running .... hm,
> > not sure how to check my Cygwin version, it's probably ~4 months old
> > ... on WinXP.
>
>The xmodmap way works well on Cygwin/X versions newer than
>release-22 (released on 2003-11-9).
>
>Takuma Murakami
>

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Re: map mouse button 4 or 5 to button 2?

[Takuma Murakami]

> Just to confuse the issue further (sorry), can I map the right mouse button 
> to CTRL+F9 ?

I guess xmodmap cannot do such remapping.  However there
are some tools which achieve the remapping in Windows layer.
Maybe there are some in UNIX layer too.

Takuma Murakami

Re: map mouse button 4 or 5 to button 2?

[Harold L Hunt II]

Jeff,

I just bought the same keyboard and mouse setup and ran into the same 
issue that you did.  The key is to make the mouse wheel click map to 
something that the mouse driver does not intercept and prevent from 
being handled by the current application.  The "Switch Application" 
function is an intercepted function, whereas the old default 
"AutoScroll" is not intercepted, so the mouse wheel click is passed 
through to the current application.  I am not sure there is much we can 
do to force the mouse driver to pass us the mouse wheel click, so you 
might just have to set it back to AutoScroll to get the desired 
functionality.

Harold

Jeffrey J. Gray wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Is it possible to have either button 4 or 5 (usually the forward/back 
> buttons) send a 'button 2' signal (ie paste) to cygwin applications?  
> The reasons for this are (1) since button 2 is on the wheel, pressing 
> this button sometimes also accidentally sends a scroll signal making for 
> sloppy paste operations and  (2) I just upgraded my mouse, and in the 
> new standard configuration, Windows intercepts button 2 and makes it a 
> 'switch applications' signal.  I need button 2 for Cygwin paste 
> operations, so I'm anxious to restore this functionality to my cygwin.
> 
> My new mouse/keyboard setup is MS Wireless Optical Desktop Elite (which 
> includes a Wireless IntelliMouse Explorer 2.0), and I'm running .... hm, 
> not sure how to check my Cygwin version, it's probably ~4 months old 
> .... on WinXP.
> 
> Thanks for the help,
> Jeff
> 

Re: map side mouse button to button 2?

[Jeffrey J. Gray]

Thanks everyone for the help.  I upgraded my cygwin build to a Jan30 
version, so xmodmap works and can mix around the button functions.  
However, in xev, buttons '4' and '5' indeed (as someone posted earlier 
today) correspond to the wheel motions, not to the buttons on the side 
of my mouse.  These buttons produce nothing xev -- so will it ever be 
possible to use these buttons in cygwin-xfree?

Harold, your solution worked, setting the middle button to autoscroll 
recovers the usual paste function.

The current solution is suboptimal--I still dislike using the wheel 
button so regularly, and it seems a shame to waste the perfectly good 
side buttons on the mouse.  If anyone comes up with better solutions, 
please let me know.  For now at least everything works.

Thanks again for the help.

Jeff

PS-without subscribing to this newsgroup, is there anyway to be sure 
reply messages get tied to the correct thread??  there is no 'reply to' 
button from the html newsgroup archive pages where I read the postings. 
(http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-02/msg00140.html)

> Jeff,
>
> I just bought the same keyboard and mouse setup and ran into the same 
> issue that you did. The key is to make the mouse wheel click map to 
> something that the mouse driver does not intercept and prevent from 
> being handled by the current application. The "Switch Application" 
> function is an intercepted function, whereas the old default 
> "AutoScroll" is not intercepted, so the mouse wheel click is passed 
> through to the current application. I am not sure there is much we can 
> do to force the mouse driver to pass us the mouse wheel click, so you 
> might just have to set it back to AutoScroll to get the desired 
> functionality.
>
> Harold
>
> Jeffrey J. Gray wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to have either button 4 or 5 (usually the forward/back 
> buttons) send a 'button 2' signal (ie paste) to cygwin applications? 
> The reasons for this are (1) since button 2 is on the wheel, pressing 
> this button sometimes also accidentally sends a scroll signal making 
> for sloppy paste operations and (2) I just upgraded my mouse, and in 
> the new standard configuration, Windows intercepts button 2 and makes 
> it a 'switch applications' signal. I need button 2 for Cygwin paste 
> operations, so I'm anxious to restore this functionality to my cygwin.
>
> My new mouse/keyboard setup is MS Wireless Optical Desktop Elite 
> (which includes a Wireless IntelliMouse Explorer 2.0), and I'm running 
> .... hm, not sure how to check my Cygwin version, it's probably ~4 
> months old .... on WinXP.
>
>Thanks for the help,
>Jeff
>

Re: map side mouse button to button 2?

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Jeffrey J. Gray wrote:

> [snip]
> PS-without subscribing to this newsgroup, is there anyway to be sure
> reply messages get tied to the correct thread??  there is no 'reply to'
> button from the html newsgroup archive pages where I read the postings.
> (http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-02/msg00140.html)

Jeff,

The easiest way to do this is to use the "Raw text" link at the top of the
archived message, read the first line, which looks something like "From
cygwin-xfree-return-NNNNN..." to get the message number (the "NNNNN"
part), then send e-mail to cygwin-xfree-get.NNNNN<at>cygwin<dot>com.
This will instruct the mailing list manager to send you an exact copy of
the given message (as an attachment).  You can then reply to that message
in a regular way (if your mail client supports it, of course).
	Igor
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Re: Checking Cygwin version (FAQ Alert!) (Was Re: map mouse button 4 or 5 to button 2?)

[Joshua Daniel Franklin]

On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 06:11:57PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Jeffrey J. Gray wrote:
> 
> > [snip]
> > ... and I'm running .... hm, not sure how to check my Cygwin version,
> > it's probably ~4 months old .... on WinXP.
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> Just like on any Unix system, "uname -srv" will return the kernel (in
> Cygwin's case, cygwin1.dll) version.  On Cygwin, you can also use
> "cygcheck -srv" to get detailed information about your system (essential
> for diagnosing Cygwin problems, see <http://cygwin.com/problems.html>), or
> "cygcheck -cd" to just get the versions of all installed packages (or omit
> the "-d" flag to also check them for integrity).  If you post the output
> of either "cygcheck -srv" or "cygcheck -cd", please *attach* it to your
> message, rather than including it inline.

Or, since all he wanted was the Cygwin version, just "uname -r" or
"cygcheck -cd cygwin" would work fine. :)

> P.S. I was surprised that this isn't in the FAQ.  David, could you please
> add this, under the heading "What version of Cygwin do I have?" or
> something?  Oh, and BTW, there's a "What version is this, anyway?" entry
> that has nothing to do with this question, and is pretty confusing.

Since David is still AWOL, I guess I've taken over FAQ maintainence too.
I rewrote most of the "What version is this, anyway?" entry, removing
all the references to the 'recent' (2000 April) switch to setup.exe,
and noting the difference between Cygwin the package and Cygwin the system.
You can read it at:

<http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_1.html#SEC5>

Re: Checking Cygwin version (FAQ Alert!)

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 06:11:57PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Jeffrey J. Gray wrote:
> >
> > > [snip]
> > > ... and I'm running .... hm, not sure how to check my Cygwin version,
> > > it's probably ~4 months old .... on WinXP.
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Just like on any Unix system, "uname -srv" will return the kernel (in
> > Cygwin's case, cygwin1.dll) version.  On Cygwin, you can also use
> > "cygcheck -srv" to get detailed information about your system (essential
> > for diagnosing Cygwin problems, see <http://cygwin.com/problems.html>), or
> > "cygcheck -cd" to just get the versions of all installed packages (or omit
> > the "-d" flag to also check them for integrity).  If you post the output
> > of either "cygcheck -srv" or "cygcheck -cd", please *attach* it to your
> > message, rather than including it inline.
>
> Or, since all he wanted was the Cygwin version, just "uname -r" or
> "cygcheck -cd cygwin" would work fine. :)
>
> > P.S. I was surprised that this isn't in the FAQ.  David, could you please
> > add this, under the heading "What version of Cygwin do I have?" or
> > something?  Oh, and BTW, there's a "What version is this, anyway?" entry
> > that has nothing to do with this question, and is pretty confusing.
>
> Since David is still AWOL, I guess I've taken over FAQ maintainence too.
> I rewrote most of the "What version is this, anyway?" entry, removing
> all the references to the 'recent' (2000 April) switch to setup.exe,
> and noting the difference between Cygwin the package and Cygwin the system.
> You can read it at:
>
> <http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_1.html#SEC5>

Looks good, thanks.
	Igor
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Re: map side mouse button to button 2?

[Takuma Murakami]

Jeffrey,

Try to map 'autoscroll' for your favorite side button via
IntelliPoint software.  Since then the side button should work
as button2.  Like this approach you could freely remap mouse
buttons on the Windows layer.  Since IntelliPoint provides
per-application remapping, the configuration for XWin.exe
will not affect other Windows programs.

Takuma Murakami


> Thanks everyone for the help.  I upgraded my cygwin build to a Jan30 
> version, so xmodmap works and can mix around the button functions.  
> However, in xev, buttons '4' and '5' indeed (as someone posted earlier 
> today) correspond to the wheel motions, not to the buttons on the side 
> of my mouse.  These buttons produce nothing xev -- so will it ever be 
> possible to use these buttons in cygwin-xfree?
> 
> Harold, your solution worked, setting the middle button to autoscroll 
> recovers the usual paste function.
> 
> The current solution is suboptimal--I still dislike using the wheel 
> button so regularly, and it seems a shame to waste the perfectly good 
> side buttons on the mouse.  If anyone comes up with better solutions, 
> please let me know.  For now at least everything works.