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From: Jon TURNEY <jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk>
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Cc: andy.koppe@gmail.com, kbrown@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: X11R7.5 and C.UTF-8
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:42:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AE99BAD.6060303@dronecode.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <416096c60910281707t3249dfb7tc6d0caf0e57ba626@mail.gmail.com>

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On 29/10/2009 00:07, Andy Koppe wrote:
> 2009/10/28 Jon TURNEY:
>> On 28/10/2009 14:22, Ken Brown wrote:
>>>
>>> X11R7.5 doesn't like the (default) locale C.UTF-8.  If I start the
>>> server with 'LANG=C.UTF-8 /usr/bin/startxwin.bat', the server exits
>>> immediately, and the log has complaints about the locale. If I instead
>>> use 'LANG=en_US.UTF-8', there's no problem. I've attached both logs and
>>> cygcheck output.
>>
>> Thanks for the bug report.
>>
>> I'm afraid I'm not immediately able to reproduce this, though, using the
>> command you give.
>
> You might have LC_ALL or LC_CTYPE set, which would override LANG. Or
> perhaps startxwin.bat overrides things somewhere along the way?
>
> To avoid all that, you could try invoking Xwin directly with LC_ALL
> set, which is top dog among locale variables.
>
>    LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 xwin -multiwindow&
>
> It fails with en.UTF-8 too (which also is a legal Cygwin locale), but
> it works with en_US.UTF-8.

Nope, I don't have LC_ALL or LC_CTYPE set

This is pretty curious, since all XSupportsLocale() should be doing 
effectively is checking if setlocale (LC_ALL, NULL) returns a name it understands.

Perhaps you can try the attached small test program.

I haven't been following the discussion about C.UTF-8 closely, but curiously, 
for me at least, this test program shows that setlocale(LC_ALL, "") fails with 
LANG=C.UTF-8 (so that doesn't actually seem to be a valid locale, although if 
it's the default it probably doesn't make much difference), but this means 
that a subsequent setlocale(LC_ALL, NULL) just returns "C"

Possibly C.UTF-8 needs adding to /usr/share/X11/locale/locale.alias and 
locale.dir.

in any case, it's probably also a bug that the Xserver considers 
XSupportsLocale() failure a critical error, rather than continuing with a 
warning, but I'd like to get to the bottom of this first...

>> The significant change is probably that libX11 is no longer built with
>> X_LOCALE (so that libX11 uses the native locale support rather than it's
>> own).
>> Exactly why this would cause a problem, I don't know.
>
> Hmm, that sounds like it should have improved matters if anything.

Indeed :-)


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  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-29 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-28 14:22 Ken Brown
2009-10-28 21:23 ` Thomas Dickey
2009-10-28 21:48   ` Ken Brown
2009-10-28 22:07     ` Andy Koppe
2009-11-28 12:22       ` Ken Brown
2009-11-28 13:35         ` Andy Koppe
2009-11-28 15:29           ` Ken Brown
2009-12-03  5:27         ` Linda Walsh
2009-12-03  7:37           ` Charles Wilson
2009-12-03  7:48           ` Andy Koppe
2009-12-03  9:09             ` Corinna Vinschen
2009-12-03  9:55             ` Thomas Dickey
2009-12-03 13:16               ` Andy Koppe
2009-12-03 13:48                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2009-12-04  4:30               ` Eric Blake
2009-12-04  9:45                 ` Thomas Dickey
2009-10-28 21:49   ` Andy Koppe
2009-10-28 23:51     ` Andy Koppe
2009-10-28 22:19   ` Charles Wilson
2009-10-28 23:52 ` Jon TURNEY
2009-10-29  0:07   ` Andy Koppe
2009-10-29 13:42     ` Jon TURNEY [this message]
2009-10-29 13:56       ` Corinna Vinschen
2009-10-29 14:54         ` Jon TURNEY
2009-10-29 14:37       ` Ken Brown
2009-10-29 15:01         ` Jon TURNEY
2009-10-29 19:11           ` Jon TURNEY
2009-10-29 20:20             ` Andy Koppe
2009-11-03 21:00               ` Jon TURNEY
2009-11-04  6:34                 ` Andy Koppe

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