From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3578 invoked by alias); 3 Dec 2009 05:27:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 3569 invoked by uid 22791); 3 Dec 2009 05:27:05 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from ishtar.tlinx.org (HELO Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org) (64.81.245.74) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:26:59 +0000 Received: from [192.168.3.12] (Athenae [192.168.3.12]) by Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id nB35QueL018571 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:26:58 -0800 Message-ID: <4B174C20.1040900@tlinx.org> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:27:00 -0000 From: Linda Walsh User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090812 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 ThunderBrowse/3.2.6.8 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: X11R7.5 and C.UTF-8 References: <4AE8539E.9080004@cornell.edu> <20091028172216.P60895@mail101.his.com> <4AE8BC12.1060109@cornell.edu> <416096c60910281507n4774534dode1d24ac47d5b0a2@mail.gmail.com> <4B1115EC.7010308@cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: <4B1115EC.7010308@cornell.edu> X-Stationery: 0.4.10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-xfree-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2009-12/txt/msg00012.txt.bz2 Ken Brown wrote: > On 10/28/2009 6:07 PM, Andy Koppe wrote: >> 2009/10/28 Ken Brown: >>> Maybe my terminology is wrong. But if you start mintty with no >>> .minttyrc >>> and with LANG unset, mintty will set LANG=C.UTF-8. >> >> Yep. That's primarily for emacs' benefit, which parses the locale env >> variables itself instead of using setlocale(LC_CTYPE, ""), thereby >> missing out on Cygwin's default locale. > > Andy, > > I've sent a report about this to the emacs-devel list > (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2009-11/threads.html#01216). > But I don't have a good understanding of locale issues. Could you take > a look and see if what I said is accurate or if more should be said? C.UTF_8 doesn't exist. mintty is broken. Might want to try 'Console' nstead of using mintty. Not perfect either, but fewer compatibility problems that I've noticed. Examples of valid LANG values: C, ca_FR, en_US, fr_FR, it_IT, nl_NL, wa_BE@euro You can't have "C" and "UTF-8", because C means no encoding (default). UTF-8 IS an encoding, so they are mutually exclusive. I don't know under what circumstances "C" might imply UTF-8. If the definition of "C" changes? It might be easier than changing "c" (as used in physics). My understanding of locale issues is also limited and subject to change or re-education... :-) -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/