From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25913 invoked by alias); 3 Jan 2015 08:04:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-xfree-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 25900 invoked by uid 89); 3 Jan 2015 08:04:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_PASS,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: selene.blankersfamily.com Received: from 87-161.ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl (HELO selene.blankersfamily.com) (88.159.161.87) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 08:04:04 +0000 Received: from gaia.blankersfamily.com (gaia.blankersfamily.com [172.30.0.103]) by selene.blankersfamily.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A3CE2 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 09:03:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (Authenticated sender: laurens@blankersfamily.com) by gaia.blankersfamily.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D9EE3E8 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 09:03:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <54A7A26E.7090801@blankersfamily.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 08:04:00 -0000 From: Laurens Blankers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: run.exe will not work with upgrade from 1.14.4 to 1.16.3 References: <54A6FDB8.9070106@blankersfamily.com> <54A766A7.7020609@cygwin.com> In-Reply-To: <54A766A7.7020609@cygwin.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2015-01/txt/msg00004.txt.bz2 On 3-1-2015 04:48, Larry Hall (Cygwin-X) wrote: > But the functionality in the latest release of the xinit corrects some > long-standing Cygwin incompatibilities with startx, so there's > no benefit to turning back as a strategy. This is exactly why I have such hard time convincing people that using open source software is a good idea: "The solution is technically better, so if it breaks for you I don't care." I am not arguing that the solution should be discarded, I am arguing that the way the transition was handled, or not handled actually, it not worthy of being called engineering, development, or even programming. The best, and actually only way to move forward is to revert back to the behaviour of 1.3.2-1 and rethink this whole approach. Once a good transition plan is in place the changes can be reapplied. But it is obvious that I won't find a sympathetic ear to the plight of the user here, so I will escalate this to the main Cygwin mailing list. Hopefully people their actually care about user experience. Laurens -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/