From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10000 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 2015 13:36:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-xfree-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 9992 invoked by uid 89); 18 Feb 2015 13:36:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: out4-smtp.messagingengine.com Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (HELO out4-smtp.messagingengine.com) (66.111.4.28) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) ESMTPS; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:36:03 +0000 Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D92920D6D for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:36:01 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [86.179.113.106]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A0983680093; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:36:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <54E4953F.8080600@dronecode.org.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:36:00 -0000 From: Jon TURNEY Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com CC: rhofmann@rayed.de Subject: Re: ctrl-alt-{ ctrl-alt-[ ctrl-alt-] ctrl-alt-} not working as expected german keyboard on notebook References: <54E3FEFE.2070100@rayed.de> In-Reply-To: <54E3FEFE.2070100@rayed.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2015-02/txt/msg00048.txt.bz2 On 18/02/2015 02:54, rhofmann@rayed.de wrote: > Dell Latitude E6540, german keyboard. > > I can type AltGr-{ ... and so on, but ctrl-alt-{ ... as labeled on the > keyboard gives something wrong. > > It seems like when Alt is pressed Ctrl (Strg) is ignored, it gives the > same keys as without Ctrl. > > I tried some things with setxkbmap, but no success. Unfortunately, there doesn't currently seem to be a way to configure X to act in this way. In xkeyboard-config language, you are trying to access the "3rd level shift" for a key (1st level is the normal key, 2nd is the shifted key) I believe that the standard (DIN 2137) specifies that this 3rd level is accessed by right alt. ctrl + left alt being equivalent to right alt is a Windows-ism [1]. See the upstream bug [2], you might also find the discussion in [3] of interest. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key#Control_.2B_Alt_as_a_substitute [2] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37232 [3] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/822872 -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/