New Installation

New Installation

[Boda S. Gupta]

Hello 
		
1. Can any one help me with a nice sequence of instructions to
use Cygwin32.

I don't want to disturb cygnus->b19->H-* -> directory structure disturbed!

2. Do we need to set up /var /etc with mount?
3. How does one create /etc/passwd and /etc/group files on NT with Cygnus?
   
4. How to use man pages from cdk-man-* ? Any tool or method?

5. Vi or some alternative please?

6. Any good tools you suggest?
7. How to run X Programs? I have installed X Server (MIX Server) from TNT
Lite and also have X11R6.3 libs from Mr. Mummit Khan's Site.
How to configure them to work with me! Compelete instructions? Am I ambitious?

 
7. I have a X11/Motif program and want to run on WinNT (+cygnus). 
   Do I need to run always X Server? Is there no way X Server forms part of
my executable?
If yes, please let me know how to do it!

Please help me!

Thanks
Gupta 
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Re: New Installation

[Michael Hirmke]

Hi Boda,

[...]
>2. Do we need to set up /var /etc with mount?

Can be useful.

>3. How does one create /etc/passwd and /etc/group files on NT with Cygnus?

mkasswd
mkgroup

>
>4. How to use man pages from cdk-man-* ? Any tool or method?

Get ncurses, less, groff and man from
ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/win32/develop/gnuwin32/cygwin32/porters/Hirmke_Michael

>
>5. Vi or some alternative please?

Get vim from
ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/win32/develop/gnuwin32/cygwin32/porters/Hirmke_Michael

>
>6. Any good tools you suggest?

See
Earnie Boyd's homepage ( http://freeyellow.com/members5/gw32/ ) and also
Michael Weiser's mini faq, which is posted here regularily.


>7. How to run X Programs? I have installed X Server (MIX Server) from TNT
>Lite and also have X11R6.3 libs from Mr. Mummit Khan's Site.
>How to configure them to work with me! Compelete instructions? Am I
>ambitious? 

Should be not too difficult - if you have configured your X server as
appropriate, just run them :)

>
>
>7. I have a X11/Motif program and want to run on WinNT (+cygnus).
>   Do I need to run always X Server? Is there no way X Server forms part of
>my executable?

No, you always need an X server.

>If yes, please let me know how to do it!
>
>Please help me!
>
>Thanks
>Gupta

Bye.
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Re: New Installation

[Stephen Marley]

On 17 October 1998, Michael Hirmke wrote:
> 
> Get vim from
> ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/win32/develop/gnuwin32/cygwin32/porters/Hirmke_Michael

I don't get it. Why should one use a Cygwin32 version of Vim when
perfectly acceptable Win32 native ports (gui and console) exist?

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RE: New Installation

[Leo Mauro]

On Monday, October 19, 1998 05:58 AM, Stephen Marley wrote:

> I don't get it. Why should one use a Cygwin32 version of Vim when
> perfectly acceptable Win32 native ports (gui and console) exist?

In order to be able to use CygWin32 file names, as the shell and
everything else understands.  Think about mounts and symbolic links,
which the native VIM won't understand.

In fact, I use both versions:  I set up the path when I start bash in such
a way that I run the CygWin version instead of the native.  When I start
CMD I get instead the native version.

Leo

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Re: New Installation

[Jeff Sturm]

Stephen Marley wrote:
> 
> On 17 October 1998, Michael Hirmke wrote:
> >
> > Get vim from
> > ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/win32/develop/gnuwin32/cygwin32/porters/Hirmke_Michael
> 
> I don't get it. Why should one use a Cygwin32 version of Vim when
> perfectly acceptable Win32 native ports (gui and console) exist?

A native cygwin32 port just works better, especially for bash users...
it understands cygwin32 mount points, symbolic links, and has better tty
handling, for example it understands the SIGWINCH signal indicating that
the window size has changed.

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RE: New Installation

[Larry Hall]

At 06:45 PM 10/19/98 -0400, Leo Mauro wrote:
>On Monday, October 19, 1998 05:58 AM, Stephen Marley wrote:
>
>> I don't get it. Why should one use a Cygwin32 version of Vim when
>> perfectly acceptable Win32 native ports (gui and console) exist?
>
>In order to be able to use CygWin32 file names, as the shell and
>everything else understands.  Think about mounts and symbolic links,
>which the native VIM won't understand.
>
>In fact, I use both versions:  I set up the path when I start bash in such
>a way that I run the CygWin version instead of the native.  When I start
>CMD I get instead the native version.
>
>Leo
>


I feel compelled to point out that there is much less of a need (if any) to
have the native Win32 version of vim (and probably other programs) if you 
have the Cygwin32 version working.  Presuming that the Cygwin DLL is in 
your path regardless of which shell you are using, the Cygwin32 version of
these programs will work just fine for either bash or the command prompt.  
Of course, every program is different and different bugs may pop up in 
different versions of specific programs, in which case it may still be 
beneficial to have both versions of one program around.  

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Re: New Installation

[Jose I. Cabrera]

Larry Hall wrote:
> I feel compelled to point out that there is much less of a need (if any) to
> have the native Win32 version of vim (and probably other programs) if you

I completely agree with Larry.
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Re: new installation

[LO]

Hi Kevin,
A workaround:
Find the cygwinb19.dll file and copy it into the directory in which the
program you
compiled is in. This is what I did..

Kevin Tighe wrote:

> I installed B19 on my computer and it seemed to work fine.  However, when
> I tried to run a program that I compiled, it said "command not found,"
> even though I know that the file is there.  When I tried to run the
> program with start=>run in windows, it said that there is a .dll file
> missing (cygwinb19.dll).  I checked, and that file is there.  Also, the
> directory that the .dll file is in is in my path statement.  I have a
> feeling that this is an environment variable problem, but B19 was supposed
> to set those up for me.  Could anyone tell me what environment vars I'm
> supposed to have in my autoexec.bat and the syntax for setting them (or if
> environment vars aren't the trouble, then what is?).  Any help would be
> greatly appreciated.
>         Kevin Tighe

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new installation

[Kevin Tighe]

I installed B19 on my computer and it seemed to work fine.  However, when
I tried to run a program that I compiled, it said "command not found,"
even though I know that the file is there.  When I tried to run the
program with start=>run in windows, it said that there is a .dll file
missing (cygwinb19.dll).  I checked, and that file is there.  Also, the
directory that the .dll file is in is in my path statement.  I have a
feeling that this is an environment variable problem, but B19 was supposed
to set those up for me.  Could anyone tell me what environment vars I'm
supposed to have in my autoexec.bat and the syntax for setting them (or if
environment vars aren't the trouble, then what is?).  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
	Kevin Tighe	



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Re: New Installation

[Larry Hall]

At 02:33 PM 10/19/98 -0700, Earnie Boyd wrote:
>---Stephen Marley <Stephen.Marley@memex.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 17 October 1998, Michael Hirmke wrote:
>> > 
>> > Get vim from
>> >
> ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/win32/develop/gnuwin32/cygwin32/porters/Hirmke_Michael
>> 
>> I don't get it. Why should one use a Cygwin32 version of Vim when
>> perfectly acceptable Win32 native ports (gui and console) exist?
>> 
>
>Simple, the mount table.  The Cygwin32 would recognize a cygwin
>mounted directory structure where the Win32 native port doesn't.  This
>is the _ONLY_ reason and IMHO not worth downloading the Cygwin version
>if you have the native version already.
>

Unless you like and want to use Cygwin symbolic links...


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Re: New Installation

[Earnie Boyd]

---Stephen Marley <Stephen.Marley@memex.com> wrote:
>
> On 17 October 1998, Michael Hirmke wrote:
> > 
> > Get vim from
> >
ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/win32/develop/gnuwin32/cygwin32/porters/Hirmke_Michael
> 
> I don't get it. Why should one use a Cygwin32 version of Vim when
> perfectly acceptable Win32 native ports (gui and console) exist?
> 

Simple, the mount table.  The Cygwin32 would recognize a cygwin
mounted directory structure where the Win32 native port doesn't.  This
is the _ONLY_ reason and IMHO not worth downloading the Cygwin version
if you have the native version already.

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Re: New Installation

[Earnie Boyd]

---"Boda S. Gupta" <gupta@dbrci.blr.DaimlerBenz.COM> wrote:
>
> Hello 

Hi, Boda.

> 		
> 1. Can any one help me with a nice sequence of instructions to
> use Cygwin32.
> 
> I don't want to disturb cygnus->b19->H-* -> directory structure
disturbed!

I understand your hesitance in doing this.  When I was a newbie with
cygwin32 I had the same criteria.  However, being more experienced,
the benefits of physically moving the files are most notible.  Check
out "My Favored Directory Structure" under "Personal Reflections" on
my webpage.

> 
> 2. Do we need to set up /var /etc with mount?

I suggest you create a /var/run directory.  You'll need /etc for the
termcap.

> 3. How does one create /etc/passwd and /etc/group files on NT with
Cygnus?

mkpasswd and mkgroup

>    
> 4. How to use man pages from cdk-man-* ? Any tool or method?

Check out the "List of packages" on my webpage.

> 
> 5. Vi or some alternative please?

Vim. 

> 
> 6. Any good tools you suggest?

Again, check the "List of packages" on my webpage.

> 7. How to run X Programs? I have installed X Server (MIX Server)
from TNT
> Lite and also have X11R6.3 libs from Mr. Mummit Khan's Site.
> How to configure them to work with me! Compelete instructions? Am I
ambitious?
> 
>  
> 7. I have a X11/Motif program and want to run on WinNT (+cygnus). 
>    Do I need to run always X Server? Is there no way X Server forms
part of
> my executable?
> If yes, please let me know how to do it!

I'm ignorant on these.  There've been lots of posts concerning them
though.  You could check the archives.  I can tell you that the X
Server, in general, must be running.  There is a port of rxvt that has
mapped the X calls to Win32 calls so that you don't need the X server.
 The package contains the diffs and extra source.

> 
> Please help me!
> 

I hope I've been, helpful.

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