From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2703 invoked by alias); 27 Nov 2001 18:45:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@sourceware.cygnus.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 2663 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2001 18:45:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO protactinium.btinternet.com) (194.73.73.176) by hostedprojects.ges.redhat.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 2001 18:45:47 -0000 Received: from [217.35.36.238] (helo=sknet01) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 168nEd-0003VT-00; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:45:35 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c17773$b372e3c0$d400a8c0@sknet01> From: "Stephano Mariani" To: "Charles Wilson" , "Mark Jones" Cc: References: <27731843.1006885703385.JavaMail.imail@blizzard.excite.com> <3C03DCA8.8000906@ece.gatech.edu> Subject: Re: New Install May Have a Bug Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 21:09:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-SW-Source: 2001-11/txt/msg01070.txt.bz2 I and my colleagues share the opinion that the setup should include an option to install ALL the packages with or without source automatically... It is a huge pain to manually go through all the packages selecting them repeatedly since the most recent version isn't always the first to appear. Perhaps a suggestion made earlier on this list by someone whose name i have forgotten could be implemented: The setup could be controlled on the commandline too perhaps with a filename as an argument. The file could contain all the options required. Stephano. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Wilson" To: "Mark Jones" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:34 PM Subject: Re: New Install May Have a Bug > Remember all of those complaints on the mailing list about "cygwin is > too big"? Remember the acrimony that resulted when we (the list) > declared that we only support installations that included EVERY cygwin > package? > > The reason was because we had no ability to manage dependencies from > setup.exe. > > The new setup DOES handle dependencies, so if you select 'vim' you'll > automatically get 'ncurses', etc. Therefore, we can now allow/support > partial installations. > > Concommitant with that, the default installation is now a bare minimum > of packages -- if you want more, you have to explicitly select the > additional packages. > > --Chuck > > > Mark Jones wrote: > > > I tried to install Cygwin at a friend's last night and after it finished he > > did not have the program "less" installed, and his whole cygwin directory > > structure was only about 32 MB in size after the install. I do not have a > > clean install as a reference point as I've already installed XFree86 on my > > own computer, but my /bin directory is over 50 MB, so if his whole directory > > structure is only 32 MB I suspect he is missing more than just "less". > > > > I have helped others install it on their computers in the past (2-3 months > > ago) and have never had a problem, so I think something may have been broken > > recently in the install program. I noticed the package listing interface is > > different now that a few months back, so I assume that part has changed, > > perhaps with an additional feature of a new bug. > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ __ > > Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger > > http://messenger.excite.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > > > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Stephano Mariani" To: "Charles Wilson" , "Mark Jones" Cc: Subject: Re: New Install May Have a Bug Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:45:00 -0000 Message-ID: <001701c17773$b372e3c0$d400a8c0@sknet01> References: <27731843.1006885703385.JavaMail.imail@blizzard.excite.com> <3C03DCA8.8000906@ece.gatech.edu> X-SW-Source: 2001-11/msg01658.html Message-ID: <20011127104500.jWhg396JCBPGnR7iILl0BzLriF_SbNoI3HGfq3G6sww@z> I and my colleagues share the opinion that the setup should include an option to install ALL the packages with or without source automatically... It is a huge pain to manually go through all the packages selecting them repeatedly since the most recent version isn't always the first to appear. Perhaps a suggestion made earlier on this list by someone whose name i have forgotten could be implemented: The setup could be controlled on the commandline too perhaps with a filename as an argument. The file could contain all the options required. Stephano. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Wilson" To: "Mark Jones" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:34 PM Subject: Re: New Install May Have a Bug > Remember all of those complaints on the mailing list about "cygwin is > too big"? Remember the acrimony that resulted when we (the list) > declared that we only support installations that included EVERY cygwin > package? > > The reason was because we had no ability to manage dependencies from > setup.exe. > > The new setup DOES handle dependencies, so if you select 'vim' you'll > automatically get 'ncurses', etc. Therefore, we can now allow/support > partial installations. > > Concommitant with that, the default installation is now a bare minimum > of packages -- if you want more, you have to explicitly select the > additional packages. > > --Chuck > > > Mark Jones wrote: > > > I tried to install Cygwin at a friend's last night and after it finished he > > did not have the program "less" installed, and his whole cygwin directory > > structure was only about 32 MB in size after the install. I do not have a > > clean install as a reference point as I've already installed XFree86 on my > > own computer, but my /bin directory is over 50 MB, so if his whole directory > > structure is only 32 MB I suspect he is missing more than just "less". > > > > I have helped others install it on their computers in the past (2-3 months > > ago) and have never had a problem, so I think something may have been broken > > recently in the install program. I noticed the package listing interface is > > different now that a few months back, so I assume that part has changed, > > perhaps with an additional feature of a new bug. > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ __ > > Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger > > http://messenger.excite.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > > > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/