Installation

Installation

[Scott Taylor]

I seem to have the basic packages and directories installed, but I have
ended up with 2 additional directories labelled with the name of the mirror
site I used (think I attempted download more than once).

i.e.

bin
etc
ftp mirror site
ftp mirror site
home
lib
tmp
usr
var

In the ftp directories I have the same files that are in /etc/setup, but
instead of them being lst.gz files they are tar.bz2. I can use the CLI to
view the directories with "ls -l" but not run commands like "locate".

The /bin directory seems to have all the executables, and my PATH statement
has C:\cygwin\bin.

Please help

Scott


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Re: Installation

[Max Bowsher]

Scott Taylor wrote:
> I seem to have the basic packages and directories installed, but I
> have ended up with 2 additional directories labelled with the name of
> the mirror site I used (think I attempted download more than once).
>
> i.e.
>
> bin
> etc
> ftp mirror site
> ftp mirror site
> home
> lib
> tmp
> usr
> var
>
> In the ftp directories I have the same files that are in /etc/setup,
> but instead of them being lst.gz files they are tar.bz2. I can use
> the CLI to view the directories with "ls -l" but not run commands
> like "locate".
>
> The /bin directory seems to have all the executables, and my PATH
> statement has C:\cygwin\bin.
>
> Please help

You are using the same directory as the package cache and install root. This
is not recommended.

Choose somewhere else as your package cache dir, and move the
ftp-mirror-site dirs there. Tell setup about this new cache dir next time
you run it. Setup stores the packages it downloads in the cache dir, in case
you want to reinstall. That is what the tar.* files are. The lst.gz files
are part of setup's accounting of what is installed - leave them alone.

Max.


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Re: Installation

[Max Bowsher]

Please keep replies on the mailing list.

Scott Taylor wrote:
> OK thanks. But what is the problem with running certain commands like
> "locate"? The bin directory is in my PATH.

What is what problem? I'm not psychic.

> Also, can I assume that because there is the postgresql.exe
> application in /bin, that PostgreSQL has been installed. I never
> built it with cygipc as instructed.

PostgreSQL is a bit of an exception. It is the only package which depends on
software outside the main Cygwin distro. You *need* cygipc for postgresql to
work.

Max.


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Re: Installation

[Scott Taylor]

As I have previously mentioned, I can run commands like "ls -l" but not ones
like "locate". These commands both seem to appear in /bin, which is in my
PATH.

What how is this possible and what can I do?

Scott


----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Bowsher" <maxb@ukf.net>
To: "Scott Taylor" <scott.taylor@4i-dotcom.com>; <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: Installation


> Please keep replies on the mailing list.
>
> Scott Taylor wrote:
> > OK thanks. But what is the problem with running certain commands like
> > "locate"? The bin directory is in my PATH.
>
> What is what problem? I'm not psychic.
>
> > Also, can I assume that because there is the postgresql.exe
> > application in /bin, that PostgreSQL has been installed. I never
> > built it with cygipc as instructed.
>
> PostgreSQL is a bit of an exception. It is the only package which depends
on
> software outside the main Cygwin distro. You *need* cygipc for postgresql
to
> work.
>
> Max.
>
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Re: Installation

[Scott Taylor]

In the /bin directory are all the bash commands that you use in a typical
unix shell...correct? Then why can I use a command like "ls -l" and not
"locate" which both reside in /bin?

This is usually a PATH issue in a normal unix environment, but I believe my
PATH is fine. (i.e. PATH=C:\cygwin\bin)

$ ls -l
total 420
drwxr-xr-x    3    scott    Ta    unknown    0    Jan 14 18:51    bin
(lists all the directories)

$ man ls
BASH: man: command not found

$ locate cygwin.bat
locate: /usr/var/locatedb: no such file or directory

Does this make sense now?

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Markebo" <andrew.markebo@telia.com>
To: "Scott Taylor" <scott.taylor@4i-dotcom.com>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Installation


> / "Scott Taylor" <scott.taylor@4i-dotcom.com> wrote:
> | As I have previously mentioned, I can run commands like "ls -l" but not
ones
> | like "locate". These commands both seem to appear in /bin, which is in
my
> | PATH.
> |
> | What how is this possible and what can I do?
>
> Ehh? Take this from the beginning?? You can run "ls -l" and it
> works.. and you wonder why?? Or do you think it is an error?
>
> Give a copy'n'paste from your prompt and show what happens, tell what
> you expected to happen?
>
>     /Andy
>
> |
> | Scott
> |
> |
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "Max Bowsher" <maxb@ukf.net>
> | To: "Scott Taylor" <scott.taylor@4i-dotcom.com>; <cygwin@cygwin.com>
> | Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:00 PM
> | Subject: Re: Installation
> |
> |
> |> Please keep replies on the mailing list.
> |>
> |> Scott Taylor wrote:
> |> > OK thanks. But what is the problem with running certain commands like
> |> > "locate"? The bin directory is in my PATH.
> |>
> |> What is what problem? I'm not psychic.
> |>
> |> > Also, can I assume that because there is the postgresql.exe
> |> > application in /bin, that PostgreSQL has been installed. I never
> |> > built it with cygipc as instructed.
> |>
> |> PostgreSQL is a bit of an exception. It is the only package which
depends
> | on
> |> software outside the main Cygwin distro. You *need* cygipc for
postgresql
> | to
> |> work.
> |>
> |> Max.
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Re: Installation

[Andrew Markebo]

/ "Scott Taylor" <scott.taylor@4i-dotcom.com> wrote:
| In the /bin directory are all the bash commands that you use in a typical
| unix shell...correct? Then why can I use a command like "ls -l" and not
| "locate" which both reside in /bin?
|
[...]
|
| $ man ls
| BASH: man: command not found

have you installed the man-package?

|
| $ locate cygwin.bat
| locate: /usr/var/locatedb: no such file or directory

locate needa its database to be built before running, I think it is
updatedb that does this.. To do a quick search now, you can use find.


| Does this make sense now?

Yep :-)

    /Andy

|
| Scott
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Re: Installation

[Scott Taylor]

OK got locate working, but there seems to be something wrong in general with
calling commands.

"ls -l" works fine but...
"ls -l | more" does not

Also, I wanted to install cygipc but it gives me the following:

$ tar -C/ -xjf cygipc-1.13-2.tar.bz2
tar (child): cygipc.1.13-2.tar.bz2: cannot open: no such file or directory
tar (child): error not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

The file "tar.exe" is in my bin directory...why can't it see it?

Scott

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From: "Andrew Markebo" <andrew.markebo@telia.com>
To: <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Installation


> / "Scott Taylor" <scott.taylor@4i-dotcom.com> wrote:
> | In the /bin directory are all the bash commands that you use in a
typical
> | unix shell...correct? Then why can I use a command like "ls -l" and not
> | "locate" which both reside in /bin?
> |
> [...]
> |
> | $ man ls
> | BASH: man: command not found
>
> have you installed the man-package?
>
> |
> | $ locate cygwin.bat
> | locate: /usr/var/locatedb: no such file or directory
>
> locate needa its database to be built before running, I think it is
> updatedb that does this.. To do a quick search now, you can use find.
>
>
> | Does this make sense now?
>
> Yep :-)
>
>     /Andy
>
> |
> | Scott
> |
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Re: Installation

[Andrew Markebo]

/ "Scott Taylor" <scott.taylor@4i-dotcom.com> wrote:
| OK got locate working, but there seems to be something wrong in general with
| calling commands.
|
| "ls -l" works fine but...
| "ls -l | more" does not

What error do you get?? I assume command not found.. basically there
are no more that comes with cygwin.. but there should be a less.. 

| Also, I wanted to install cygipc but it gives me the following:
|
| $ tar -C/ -xjf cygipc-1.13-2.tar.bz2

Hmm doesn't it look for cygipc-1.13-2.. in / now?? Try to do a 
cd /
tar -xjf [pathtocygipc]/cyg...


| tar (child): cygipc.1.13-2.tar.bz2: cannot open: no such file or directory
| tar (child): error not recoverable: exiting now
| tar: Child returned status 2
| tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
|
| The file "tar.exe" is in my bin directory...why can't it see it?

tar.exe you have cd'd to some other subdir.

        /Andy

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Re: Installation

[Volker Quetschke]

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Hi!

> | $ tar -C/ -xjf cygipc-1.13-2.tar.bz2
-------------------------------------^^^

bzip2 / bunzip2 are missing.

> Hmm doesn't it look for cygipc-1.13-2.. in / now?? Try to do a 
> cd /
> tar -xjf [pathtocygipc]/cyg...
> 
> | tar (child): cygipc.1.13-2.tar.bz2: cannot open: no such file or directory
----------------------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^ most probably means 
bunzip2.

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Re: Installation

[Andrew Markebo]

/ Volker Quetschke <quetschke@scytek.de> wrote:
| Hi!
|
|> | $ tar -C/ -xjf cygipc-1.13-2.tar.bz2
| -------------------------------------^^^
|
| bzip2 / bunzip2 are missing.

'j' takes care of that.

|
|> Hmm doesn't it look for cygipc-1.13-2.. in / now?? Try to do a cd /
|> tar -xjf [pathtocygipc]/cyg...
|> | tar (child): cygipc.1.13-2.tar.bz2: cannot open: no such file or
|> directory
| ----------------------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^ most probably
| means bunzip2.

Nope means file not found.. If it can find and try to read the file it
complains over bad entry in the file.

          /Andy

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Re: Installation

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Andrew Markebo wrote:

> | "ls -l" works fine but...
> | "ls -l | more" does not
>
> What error do you get?? I assume command not found.. basically there
> are no more that comes with cygwin.. but there should be a less..

<http://www.cygwin.com/packages/more/more-2.11o-1>
	Igor

> | Also, I wanted to install cygipc but it gives me the following:
> |
> | $ tar -C/ -xjf cygipc-1.13-2.tar.bz2
>
> Hmm doesn't it look for cygipc-1.13-2.. in / now?? Try to do a
> cd /
> tar -xjf [pathtocygipc]/cyg...
>
>
> | tar (child): cygipc.1.13-2.tar.bz2: cannot open: no such file or directory
> | tar (child): error not recoverable: exiting now
> | tar: Child returned status 2
> | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
> |
> | The file "tar.exe" is in my bin directory...why can't it see it?
>
> tar.exe you have cd'd to some other subdir.
>
>         /Andy

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installation

[Ergun UYAR]

Hello !
I was installing the full package of cygwin,65% of it 
had been finished,at that time computer because of a
outer reason restarted so connection cut off.

What will I do?

start istallation from the zero position,from the
beginning?That is,redownload first 65% of full
packages and then the other part?

Or,reinstall option next to the "all" is usefull for
me?

If not,"reinstall option" about packages is used for
what?For which conditions it is used?

Thanks,Ergün

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Re: installation

[Larry Hall]

At 02:48 PM 4/26/2005, you wrote:

>Hello !
>I was installing the full package of cygwin,65% of it 
>had been finished,at that time computer because of a
>outer reason restarted so connection cut off.
>
>What will I do?
>
>start istallation from the zero position,from the
>beginning?That is,redownload first 65% of full
>packages and then the other part?
>
>Or,reinstall option next to the "all" is usefull for
>me?


No, just rerun 'setup.exe' and tell it you want to install
all packages.  It will download only those that it has not 
completely downloaded already.


>If not,"reinstall option" about packages is used for
>what?For which conditions it is used?

Usually this is only necessary when a package (or installation) has been
"damaged" somehow so that starting over makes sense.  It's essentially
equivalent to uninstalling the package (or installation) and then installing
it again.


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installation

[Ergun UYAR]

Ýf we select "default" packages they are only about 13
Mbyte.Ýs it right?This package size seems too little
for installation.Is there a problem here?

Secondly,if there is no problem with the size of
default packages,how will I install downloaded
part?There is no installation icon in the file that I
saved to my computer!!

Thirdly,for full installation what will I do?What is
the meaning of "Full Installation" here?

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Re: installation

[Larry Hall]

At 05:43 PM 4/25/2005, you wrote:
>Ýf we select "default" packages they are only about 13
>Mbyte.Ýs it right?This package size seems too little
>for installation.Is there a problem here?


If by "select "default"" you mean that you don't make 
make any changes at the "Select Packages" page, then
your observations are correct.


>Secondly,if there is no problem with the size of
>default packages,how will I install downloaded
>part?There is no installation icon in the file that I
>saved to my computer!!


Did you select "Install from Internet" or "Download 
Without Installing"?  If you did the former, when 
'setup.exe' completes, you've already installed the
packages you downloaded.  If you selected the latter,
you need to run 'setup.exe' again and choose "Install
from Local Directory".  You'll need to provide 'setup.exe'
with the directory you chose to download the packages to.


>Thirdly,for full installation what will I do?


Go to the "Category" view on the "Select Packages" page and
click on the word "Default" next to "All" until "Default" changes 
to "Install".


>What is
>the meaning of "Full Installation" here?


Install all the packages that 'setup.exe' offers on the 
"Select Packages" page.


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Re: Installation

[lhall]

Actually, I'm not sure if there is a proper list for this.  This list 
can't really answer questions about someone else's distribution, assuming
that's the source of the problem.  This list can help you determine if 
the CD is the source of the problem (or if it's just user error).  However,
we would need to know exactly the steps you take and selections you make 
prior to the "problem".  For example, one way that this problem could arise 
is if you picked a local directory which did not contain the any packages.
If there is nothing obviously wrong with your process, then the problem
would
have to be with the CD, it's contents, and/or it's structure.  But to
resolve
that issue, you'd need to contact the provider of the CD.

Larry

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Igor Pechtchanski pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:41:25 -0500 (EST)
To: d.dorst@hccnet.nl, cygwin@cygwin.com, cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Installation


Wrong list, redirected.
	Igor

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, d. dorst wrote:

> I have got cygwin on a cd-rom because I use a 56K modem.
> I have read the FAQ s that are on the cd and tried every solution that is
> there but it will not install.
> Every time when the packeges should come in the sceen it says that there
is
> nothing availeble.
> Should I first unzip every folder that is on the cd or is there an other
way
> of doing this.
> I know that I am a dumb Windows user but I can not get cygwin working this
> way.
> I would be gratefull for any help.
>
> Dirk Dorst

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Re: Installation

[Igor Pechtchanski]

Wrong list, redirected.
	Igor

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, d. dorst wrote:

> I have got cygwin on a cd-rom because I use a 56K modem.
> I have read the FAQ s that are on the cd and tried every solution that is
> there but it will not install.
> Every time when the packeges should come in the sceen it says that there is
> nothing availeble.
> Should I first unzip every folder that is on the cd or is there an other way
> of doing this.
> I know that I am a dumb Windows user but I can not get cygwin working this
> way.
> I would be gratefull for any help.
>
> Dirk Dorst

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RE: Installation

[Gen Zhang]

Which mirror??

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Gunnar Carlsson [mailto:carlss@fas.harvard.edu] 
Sent: 19 October 2002 16:54
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Installation

Hello,
In the cygwin installation program, none of the mirrors seems to work; 
after it tries to download SETUP.INI it just stops and goes back to the 
screen preceding.  Do you know what could be the matter?  This is a
Windows 
XP machine.


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Installation

[Johnny Gunnar Carlsson]

Hello,
In the cygwin installation program, none of the mirrors seems to work; 
after it tries to download SETUP.INI it just stops and goes back to the 
screen preceding.  Do you know what could be the matter?  This is a Windows 
XP machine.


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RE: installation

[Heribert Dahms]

Hi Raphael,

here you have a problem, since on a modern 70GB disk only about
500 of the most recent cygwin versions will fit together with NT and
it's 798465 DLLs in system32, not to forget the about 532680 *.wav
and 912678 *.bmp files 8-)

Bye, Heribert (heribert_dahms@icon-gmbh.de)

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> 
> --- Raphael_Wang@buildingautomation.com.au wrote:
> > 
> > Sir/Madam,
> > 
> >      I wonder how much hard disk space the installation of CYGWIN
> > environment would take and how it would affect my existing NT4
> workstation
> > environment.  Can you comment?
> > 
> 
> I just did a fresh install of 1.1.4.  According to du it requires 72M
> of disk
> space for the installed files.  According to du the tar balls and
> setup files
> require 91M (but this also includes the source tar balls so it will be
> less
> than that).
> 
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Re: installation

[Earnie Boyd]

--- Raphael_Wang@buildingautomation.com.au wrote:
> 
> Sir/Madam,
> 
>      I wonder how much hard disk space the installation of CYGWIN
> environment would take and how it would affect my existing NT4 workstation
> environment.  Can you comment?
> 

I just did a fresh install of 1.1.4.  According to du it requires 72M of disk
space for the installed files.  According to du the tar balls and setup files
require 91M (but this also includes the source tar balls so it will be less
than that).

Cheers,

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[Raphael_Wang]

Sir/Madam,

     I wonder how much hard disk space the installation of CYGWIN
environment would take and how it would affect my existing NT4 workstation
environment.  Can you comment?

Raph



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installation

[Axel Schmitz-Tewes]

Hi,

a little off topic and perhaps trivial. I have installed egcs1.1 and
recently the gnu-ada
compiler which seems to be a front-end of gcc. But they use different
versions
of gcc. I have to set different values of GCC_EXEC_PREFIX .. etc.
Is it possible to use both compiler with the same settings?

thanks for an answer,

Axel
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RE: installation

[Ernest Clayton Cordell, Jr.]

Kai,
	The information you have received is important: It is essential to the 
toolset with what you will learn from the book, yet the book does not help 
you with the particular toolset.  There are duplicate files on the disk: 
 Read those and the ones at the website as well; the files with the same 
names at the website have been changed to reflect later versions, BUT some 
very useful information has also been added.
	You should be able to write your own original programs after the 24 
lessons; Unless you have prior programming experience, superhuman retention 
or a lot less on your honeydew list, I suggest 3 days of 8 hours each -- 
that's a fairly heavy cognitive load.
	If you want to keep your perspective, after you've installed (the disk 
version with ZIP 6.2 is an easy install and all that you'll need for the 
course), and completed all the program exercises, come back and subscribe 
to this list to increase your capabilities.
	If you expect to achieve professional proficiency within weeks when it has 
taken the rest of us years, why would you come to us for advice?

Ernie
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Sent: 	Thursday, September 25, 1997 10:32 PM
To: 	gnu-win32@cygnus.com; kai@globalnet.co.uk
Subject: 	Re: installation



>Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 19:27:32 +0100
>From: kai <kai@globalnet.co.uk>
>To: gnu-win32@cygnus.com
>Subject: installation
>
>help!
>
>I have bought a book which contains cygnus beta17, I am not sure if it
>is supported, but i am having real trouble installing it. I can put it
>all onto my hard drive, but after that, I have no idea what to run , do
>what or whatever. Everything that I open say something like error, do
>something else. The book is by SAMS PUBLISHING, "teach yourself C++ in
>24hrs. (yeah right). I have read all the notes and there is nothing
>telling you to do what. There is nothing to say which files are the
>compilers, debuggers, linkers and so on. Where the hell is everything?
>This just stupid.
>


Let me first point you to some important documents:

Read the README.txt and faq.txt file located at
ftp://ftp.cygnus.com/pub/gnu-win32/latest/ .

Then take a look at the http://www.cygnus.com/ml/gnu-win32 web page.
This is the mail list archive and you will be able to find the answers
to many questions.

Goodluck,

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Re: installation

[Earnie Boyd]

>Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 19:27:32 +0100
>From: kai <kai@globalnet.co.uk>
>To: gnu-win32@cygnus.com
>Subject: installation
>
>help!
>
>I have bought a book which contains cygnus beta17, I am not sure if it
>is supported, but i am having real trouble installing it. I can put it
>all onto my hard drive, but after that, I have no idea what to run , do
>what or whatever. Everything that I open say something like error, do
>something else. The book is by SAMS PUBLISHING, "teach yourself C++ in
>24hrs. (yeah right). I have read all the notes and there is nothing
>telling you to do what. There is nothing to say which files are the
>compilers, debuggers, linkers and so on. Where the hell is everything?
>This just stupid.
>


Let me first point you to some important documents:

Read the README.txt and faq.txt file located at 
ftp://ftp.cygnus.com/pub/gnu-win32/latest/ .

Then take a look at the http://www.cygnus.com/ml/gnu-win32 web page.  
This is the mail list archive and you will be able to find the answers 
to many questions.

Goodluck,

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installation

[kai]

help!

I have bought a book which contains cygnus beta17, I am not sure if it
is supported, but i am having real trouble installing it. I can put it
all onto my hard drive, but after that, I have no idea what to run , do
what or whatever. Everything that I open say something like error, do
something else. The book is by SAMS PUBLISHING, "teach yourself C++ in
24hrs. (yeah right). I have read all the notes and there is nothing
telling you to do what. There is nothing to say which files are the
compilers, debuggers, linkers and so on. Where the hell is everything?
This just stupid.

E-mail me back asap at
kai@globalnet.co.uk
(all lowercase)
Kai.

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