Problems with Win 98 SE CYGWin Installation

Problems with Win 98 SE CYGWin Installation

[Anthony M. Saffer]

Hello Everyone,

I've recently downloaded the setup.exe program from the website and every
time I get to the package selection section of the program my machine hangs.
I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and it's patched as of the last fix
Microsoft issued for Win 98 SE.  I've searched the archives and found the
issues with AV software and I've followed the instructions and it still
hangs. I've even completely disabled both my firewall and my AV program with
no luck. Can anyone tell me what might be the problem?

Thanks!
Anthony Saffer



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Re: Problems with Win 98 SE CYGWin Installation

[Martin]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Saffer" <anthony@safferconsulting.com>
To: <cygwin@sources.redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 6:26 PM
Subject: Problems with Win 98 SE CYGWin Installation


> Hello Everyone,
>
> I've recently downloaded the setup.exe program from the website and every
> time I get to the package selection section of the program my machine
hangs.
> I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and it's patched as of the last fix
> Microsoft issued for Win 98 SE.  I've searched the archives and found the
> issues with AV software and I've followed the instructions and it still
> hangs. I've even completely disabled both my firewall and my AV program
with
> no luck. Can anyone tell me what might be the problem?
>
> Thanks!
> Anthony Saffer

What type of File System are you installing to?
Martin

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Re: Problems with Win 98 SE CYGWin Installation

[Robert Pollard]

I have had the same experience.  I later found out I wasn't being 
patient enough.  This process takes a while.  Once the packages are 
displayed and you try changing the install status it will also take a 
while to change the status sometimes.  Whatever language or process 
they're using to handle the packages is very slow.  I don't know how 
much time you give it but you may want to take a nap or get a drink 
while it tries to load packages.
My machine is a 800 MHz Pentium III system and it takes several minutes 
for the packages to display.

I hope this is all it is.

HTH,

Robert

On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 06:26 PM, Anthony M. Saffer wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I've recently downloaded the setup.exe program from the website and 
> every
> time I get to the package selection section of the program my machine 
> hangs.
> I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and it's patched as of the last 
> fix
> Microsoft issued for Win 98 SE.  I've searched the archives and found 
> the
> issues with AV software and I've followed the instructions and it still
> hangs. I've even completely disabled both my firewall and my AV 
> program with
> no luck. Can anyone tell me what might be the problem?
>
> Thanks!
> Anthony Saffer
>
>
>
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Re: Problems with Win 98 SE CYGWin Installation

[Anthony M. Saffer]

Hi Robert,

It seems that was the problem. I just let the setup program sit and cook for
a while and it finally responded. Thanks for the input and thanks to
everyone who offered help!

Anthony

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Pollard" <rpollard@apple.com>
To: "Anthony M. Saffer" <anthony@safferconsulting.com>
Cc: <cygwin@sources.redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Problems with Win 98 SE CYGWin Installation


> I have had the same experience.  I later found out I wasn't being
> patient enough.  This process takes a while.  Once the packages are
> displayed and you try changing the install status it will also take a
> while to change the status sometimes.  Whatever language or process
> they're using to handle the packages is very slow.  I don't know how
> much time you give it but you may want to take a nap or get a drink
> while it tries to load packages.
> My machine is a 800 MHz Pentium III system and it takes several minutes
> for the packages to display.
>
> I hope this is all it is.
>
> HTH,
>
> Robert
>
> On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 06:26 PM, Anthony M. Saffer wrote:
>
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I've recently downloaded the setup.exe program from the website and
> > every
> > time I get to the package selection section of the program my machine
> > hangs.
> > I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition and it's patched as of the last
> > fix
> > Microsoft issued for Win 98 SE.  I've searched the archives and found
> > the
> > issues with AV software and I've followed the instructions and it still
> > hangs. I've even completely disabled both my firewall and my AV
> > program with
> > no luck. Can anyone tell me what might be the problem?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Anthony Saffer
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Problems with Win 98 SE CYGWin Installation

[fergus]

> I've recently downloaded the setup.exe program
> from the website and every time I get to the package
> selection section of the program my machine hangs.

I've been running Cygwin from W98/SE, totally up-to-date and well-founded,
for ages.

1. I assume you mean you've downloaded just setup.exe and none of the
resource. By the way, setup.exe is just an installer, not a self-exploding
archived version of the entire application, like some Windows "setup.exe"
programs are. So if you run it from disk, you still need a network
connection to be open and running? Sorry, I'm sure you know this, just worth
checking ...

2. Maybe the file got corrupted during the download? You could try
initiating the download and installation using http://cygwin.com/setup.exe,
so as to operate from first principles, so to speak.

3. Some things take a LONG time. Are you requesting the default
installation? If you click the selector at All Default to change to All
Install, nothing happens (I mean, nothing -- not even an eggtimer) for up to
a minute. This can give the impression of hanging without actually having
hung ...

Fergus


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RE: Problems with Win 98 SE CYGWin Installation

[Hannu E K Nevalainen (garbage mail)]

> From: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf
> Of fergus@bonhard.uklinux.net

--8<--
> 3. Some things take a LONG time. Are you requesting the default
> installation? If you click the selector at All Default to change to All
> Install, nothing happens (I mean, nothing -- not even an 
> eggtimer) for up to
> a minute. This can give the impression of hanging without actually having
> hung ...

 Expect that "minute" to be more than long if you have a slow machine. 

/Hannu E K Nevalainen, Mariefred, Sweden 
 - Running cygwin on 98SE, P2/450Mhz

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RE: Problems with Win 98 SE CYGWin Installation

[Robert Collins]

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You could try the current setup snapshot - it should fix that 'long'
minute.

Rob

On Sat, 2003-04-26 at 08:04, Hannu E K Nevalainen (garbage mail) wrote:
> > From: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf
> > Of fergus@bonhard.uklinux.net
> 
> --8<--
> > 3. Some things take a LONG time. Are you requesting the default
> > installation? If you click the selector at All Default to change to All
> > Install, nothing happens (I mean, nothing -- not even an 
> > eggtimer) for up to
> > a minute. This can give the impression of hanging without actually having
> > hung ...
> 
>  Expect that "minute" to be more than long if you have a slow machine. 
> 
> /Hannu E K Nevalainen, Mariefred, Sweden 
>  - Running cygwin on 98SE, P2/450Mhz
> 
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RE: Problems with Win 98 SE CYGWin Installation

[Hannu E K Nevalainen (garbage mail)]

> From: Robert Collins [mailto:rbcollins@cygwin.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:14 AM

> You could try the current setup snapshot - it should fix that 'long'
> minute.

 Well, the wait will most likely be a lot shorter IIUC.
But as I have seen no increase(!)  in CPU power the last
three years; I don't expect much.   ;-)


/Hannu E K Nevalainen, Mariefred, Sweden
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 I'm an old Amiga-fan, I used the Amiga daily for more than fifteen years...
 I still own one - so I can compare speed with the brand new machines I see
at school. The difference is considerable, no wonder as it is a
 Motorola 68060@50Mhz  compared to  P3/P4 @<huge number>.   `:-]
 But I still believe that the Amiga "stands proud" in the comparasion.

 I do use my Amiga for CD-burning - it can't handle more than 4x w the
current PIO 0 mode IDE controller, but it writes those CDRs without *any*
problems.
 Having a SCSI harddisk or a new IDE controller could improve things.

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