RE: "Out of environment space" error

RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Earnie Boyd]

---Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net> wrote:
8<
> > You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  BTW, where
is
> > the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
> 
> Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an MSDOS
program),
> select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory
there is
> an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto by default.
8<

There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites dialog.  The
Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and Colors; in
that order.

8< 
> Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
installation
> on
> the same drive (a FAT partition).
8<

My guess here is that you didn't properly install NT.  Don't know what
you've as a result.  I suggest trying it again as this is definitely
not NT.
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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Earnie Boyd [ mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com ]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 1:40 PM
> To: Todd Goodman
> Cc: 'cygwin users'
> Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error
>
>
> ---Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 8<
> > > You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  BTW, where
> is
> > > the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
> >
> > Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an MSDOS
> program),
> > select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory
> there is
> > an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto
> by default.
> 8<
>
> There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites dialog.  The
> Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and Colors; in
> that order.

I have General, Program, Font, Memory, Screen, Misc.

Program contains a Windows NT button that lets me select the autoexec.bat
and config.sys
to use (defaulting to %SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32\AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS).

Sure looks like NT to me.

>
> 8<
> > Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
> installation
> > on
> > the same drive (a FAT partition).
> 8<
>
> My guess here is that you didn't properly install NT.  Don't know what
> you've as a result.  I suggest trying it again as this is definitely
> not NT.

I believe it is installed properly.  I was able to install SP4 after all and
all NT programs are running OK.

Thanks anyway,

Todd

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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Earnie Boyd [ mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com ]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 1:40 PM
> To: Todd Goodman
> Cc: 'cygwin users'
> Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error
>
>
> ---Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 8<
> > > You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  BTW, where
> is
> > > the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
> >
> > Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an MSDOS
> program),
> > select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory
> there is
> > an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto
> by default.
> 8<
>
> There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites dialog.  The
> Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and Colors; in
> that order.

I have General, Program, Font, Memory, Screen, Misc.

Program contains a Windows NT button that lets me select the autoexec.bat
and config.sys
to use (defaulting to %SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32\AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS).

Sure looks like NT to me.

>
> 8<
> > Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
> installation
> > on
> > the same drive (a FAT partition).
> 8<
>
> My guess here is that you didn't properly install NT.  Don't know what
> you've as a result.  I suggest trying it again as this is definitely
> not NT.

I believe it is installed properly.  I was able to install SP4 after all and
all NT programs are running OK.

Thanks anyway,

Todd

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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Earnie Boyd]

---Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net> wrote:
8<
> > You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  BTW, where
is
> > the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
> 
> Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an MSDOS
program),
> select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory
there is
> an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto by default.
8<

There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites dialog.  The
Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and Colors; in
that order.

8< 
> Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
installation
> on
> the same drive (a FAT partition).
8<

My guess here is that you didn't properly install NT.  Don't know what
you've as a result.  I suggest trying it again as this is definitely
not NT.
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>
To: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error


>Suhaib M. Siddiqi [Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com] wrote:
>
>[...]
>>and Dos and possibley Linux.  According this document, it is suggested
>>each operating system must reside on its own partition.  This document
>
>This is mainly because of the "<drive>:\Program Files" directory, which is
>used by both '95 and NT. If they are on the same partition, they use the
>same directory for program files and programs with different versions
>for '95 and NT may run into trouble.

Thanks for explaination.  Yes that is one of the reason, I wa aware of it,
among few other reasons.

Thanks Michael.

--S

>And yes, you *really* should avoid installing them on the same
>partition, because of that problem.
>
>[...]
>>
>>Regards
>>Suhaib
>
>Bye.
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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

OK.  Thanks.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Nelson [ mailto:mikenel@iapetus.com ]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 3:49 PM
> To: Suhaib M. Siddiqi; Todd Goodman
> Cc: cygwin
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> On NT, make sure you are using "cmd.exe" as your shell and 
> not "command.com"
> (which runs in the VDM and has all of DOS's nasty limitations).
> 
> -mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>
> To: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
> Cc: cygwin <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>> You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  
> BTW, where is
> >>> the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
> >>
> >>Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an 
> MSDOS program),
> >>select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory
> >there is
> >>an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto 
> by default.
> >>
> >
> >Oh you may be better off leaving that the way it was.  That 
> will do no
> >good or harm to your Cygwin, in my opinion.  Also Microsoft does not
> >advice using a config.sys file on NT.
> >
> >
> >>Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
> >installation
> >>on
> >>the same drive (a FAT partition).
> >
> >Did you run the NT partition during installation?  It should 
> have taken
> >care of it, unless you forced the Nt installed to install OS 
> in the same
> >directory where Win95 was already installed.  In that case you are in
> >big trouble and may consider backing up your data and cleaning the
> >disk... then doing a fresh install.
> 
> 
> 

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"Out of environment space" error

[Damian Rouson]

I have tried running beta 20.1 of the bash shell on
both Windows 95 & 98.  In both cases, I get the error
"Out of environment space
 Bad command or file name"
upon launching the shell and then shell exits.
(With Win98, the first line is repeated twice.)  My
machine has 128 MB of RAM and 202 MB of free disk
space on the partition on which Cygwin is installed.

Can anybody tell me what's causing this?


Damian

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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

-----Original Message-----
From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna.vinschen@cityweb.de>
To: Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>
Cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error


>Michael Hirmke wrote:
>>
>> Suhaib M. Siddiqi [Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com] wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>> This is mainly because of the "<drive>:\Program Files" directory, which
is
>> used by both '95 and NT. If they are on the same partition, they use the
>> [...]
>> And yes, you *really* should avoid installing them on the same
>> partition, because of that problem.
>
>Yes, you *really* should avoid to install '95 ;)

ditto :-)  Avoid Win98 too, til Win 200x, comes out.  MS is planning to have
the same kernel, stolen from NT, on all the versions of Windows.

>
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

>Yes, it is a dual-boot NT and Win95 machine.  Yes, they're on the same
>partition.  Please let me know why you think this is not a valid
>configuration.  I believe it is a well supported configuration by
>Microsoft.
>

Good to know you do not have problems with Cygwin any more.

Regarding the NT and Win95 on the same partition.  I am not sure it is
supported.  The documents I have from Microsoft web site, it clearly
explains how to setup and dual and triple boot machine with NT, Win95
and Dos and possibley Linux.  According this document, it is suggested
each operating system must reside on its own partition.  This document
is not distributed officically distributed by Microsoft, but is written
by one of their Windows Nt engineer and is distributed by him.  I do not
remember the web link any more, but if you darely need it, I will not
mind Faxing it to you.

Regards
Suhaib

>I did however, determine the problem thanks to help from all those
>who answered.
>
>My shortcut to CYGNUS.BAT looks like it was migrated during the NT
>install.  That gave the properties tabs that were unexpected by
>Suhaib and Earnie.  I believe it also continued to run CYGNUS.BAT
>under COMMAND.COM as opposed to CMD.EXE.
>
>I created a new shortcut and the properties tabs are as expected
>along with the "Out of environment space" message no longer
>occuring.
>
>Thanks to all,
>
>Todd
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 7:25 AM
>> To: Todd Goodman; earnie_boyd@yahoo.com
>> Cc: 'cygwin users'
>> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>> Are you having NT and Win95 as a dual-boot machine?  If it is
>> true, then
>> are they on separate partitions?
>>
>> --S
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
>> To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>;
>> <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: 'cygwin users' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 10:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>> >No!  NT is not installed in the windows directory!  Windows is in
the
>> >windows directory.  NT is in the NT directory.
>> >
>> >As mentioned, the properties contain NT specific items.  They are
not
>> >the same as is available under WIN95.
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 2:01 PM
>> >> To: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com; Todd Goodman
>> >> Cc: 'cygwin users'
>> >> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites
>> >> dialog.  The
>> >> >Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and
>> >> Colors; in
>> >> >that order.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I assume what he has is Win95 DOS shell.  I think he
>> >> installed Nt in the
>> >> Win95 directory therefore he is having a win95 and Nt stuff mixed
>> >> together.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Michael V. Nikolaev]

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Hi!

I think you are attempting to modify properties of MS-DOS application of Windows 95 shortcut, pif-file. Under NT, properties of such files look exactly as you described.

Regards,
Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>
To: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>; earnie_boyd@yahoo.com <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
Cc: 'cygwin users' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Date: 4 áåðåçíÿ 1999 ð. 14:17
Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error


>
>
>>
>>> 8<
>>>
>>> There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites dialog.
>The
>>> Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and Colors;
>in
>>> that order.
>>
>>I have General, Program, Font, Memory, Screen, Misc.
>>
>>Program contains a Windows NT button that lets me select the
>autoexec.bat
>>and config.sys
>
>Microsoft does not advice using config.sys on NT.  Please check
>Micorosft Knowledge base on their web pages.  They even advice of not
>using autoexec.bat on NT for env stuff.
>
>
>>to use (defaulting to %SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32\AUTOEXEC.BAT and
>CONFIG.SYS).
>>
>>Sure looks like NT to me.
>>
>>>
>>> 8<
>>> > Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
>>> installation
>>> > on
>>> > the same drive (a FAT partition).
>>> 8<
>>>
>>> My guess here is that you didn't properly install NT.  Don't know
>what
>>> you've as a result.  I suggest trying it again as this is definitely
>>> not NT.
>>
>>I believe it is installed properly.  I was able to install SP4 after
>all and
>>all NT programs are running OK.
>>
>>Thanks anyway,
>>
>>Todd
>>
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Michael Nelson]

On NT, make sure you are using "cmd.exe" as your shell and not "command.com"
(which runs in the VDM and has all of DOS's nasty limitations).

-mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>
To: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
Cc: cygwin <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error


>
>
>>>
>>> You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  BTW, where is
>>> the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
>>
>>Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an MSDOS program),
>>select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory
>there is
>>an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto by default.
>>
>
>Oh you may be better off leaving that the way it was.  That will do no
>good or harm to your Cygwin, in my opinion.  Also Microsoft does not
>advice using a config.sys file on NT.
>
>
>>Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
>installation
>>on
>>the same drive (a FAT partition).
>
>Did you run the NT partition during installation?  It should have taken
>care of it, unless you forced the Nt installed to install OS in the same
>directory where Win95 was already installed.  In that case you are in
>big trouble and may consider backing up your data and cleaning the
>disk... then doing a fresh install.



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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

Good to know it.  I assume it could be specific to your NT env.
I am also using NT 4.0 with SP4 on 2 machines.  Both has Cygwin B20.1
installed.  I never had *out of env* problems on my NT 4 with SP 4.
Though, as a thumb rule, I always use a pagefile on all the disks and my
pagefiles
on NT are always twice the size of my physical RAM.  According to my
experience, and also some documents
at microsoft web pages, it improves the performance of NT.

Regards
Suhaib





----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>; 'Damian Rouson'
<rouson@exponent.com>; <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error


>It is untrue that it only happens on Win 95/98.
>
>I get "Out of environment" errors for every "set"
>line in the cygnus.bat file when run from my
>NT 4.0 SP 4 machine.
>
>I have set the properties for auto memory and also
>4096 with no difference.
>
>Todd
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> [ mailto:cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib M.
>> Siddiqi
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 10:11 PM
>> To: Damian Rouson; cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>> The answer is in FAQ.  You need to edit your config.sys file
>> on Win95/98.
>> It occurs only on win95/98.
>> FAQ link is on the Cygnus web pages.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Damian Rouson <rouson@exponent.com>
>> To: 'cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:11 PM
>> Subject: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>> >I have tried running beta 20.1 of the bash shell on
>> >both Windows 95 & 98.  In both cases, I get the error
>> >"Out of environment space
>> > Bad command or file name"
>> >upon launching the shell and then shell exits.
>> >(With Win98, the first line is repeated twice.)  My
>> >machine has 128 MB of RAM and 202 MB of free disk
>> >space on the partition on which Cygwin is installed.
>> >
>> >Can anybody tell me what's causing this?
>> >
>> >
>> >Damian
>> >
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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Earnie Boyd]

---Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net> wrote:
8<
>
> It is untrue that it only happens on Win 95/98.
> 
> I get "Out of environment" errors for every "set"
> line in the cygnus.bat file when run from my
> NT 4.0 SP 4 machine.
> 
> I have set the properties for auto memory and also
> 4096 with no difference.
> 
> Todd
8<

You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  BTW, where is
the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

Yes, it certainly must be something to do with my NT environment
since others have reported that they don't see it.

FWIW, when I was running under Win95 I successfully got rid of
the messages using the steps in the FAQ.

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 7:04 AM
> To: Todd Goodman; 'Damian Rouson'; cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> Good to know it.  I assume it could be specific to your NT env.
> I am also using NT 4.0 with SP4 on 2 machines.  Both has Cygwin B20.1
> installed.  I never had *out of env* problems on my NT 4 with SP 4.
> Though, as a thumb rule, I always use a pagefile on all the 
> disks and my
> pagefiles
> on NT are always twice the size of my physical RAM.  According to my
> experience, and also some documents
> at microsoft web pages, it improves the performance of NT.
> 
> Regards
> Suhaib
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
> To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>; 'Damian Rouson'
> <rouson@exponent.com>; <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 11:42 PM
> Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> >It is untrue that it only happens on Win 95/98.
> >
> >I get "Out of environment" errors for every "set"
> >line in the cygnus.bat file when run from my
> >NT 4.0 SP 4 machine.
> >
> >I have set the properties for auto memory and also
> >4096 with no difference.
> >
> >Todd
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
> >> [ mailto:cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib M.
> >> Siddiqi
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 10:11 PM
> >> To: Damian Rouson; cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
> >> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> >>
> >>
> >> The answer is in FAQ.  You need to edit your config.sys file
> >> on Win95/98.
> >> It occurs only on win95/98.
> >> FAQ link is on the Cygnus web pages.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Damian Rouson <rouson@exponent.com>
> >> To: 'cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:11 PM
> >> Subject: "Out of environment space" error
> >>
> >>
> >> >I have tried running beta 20.1 of the bash shell on
> >> >both Windows 95 & 98.  In both cases, I get the error
> >> >"Out of environment space
> >> > Bad command or file name"
> >> >upon launching the shell and then shell exits.
> >> >(With Win98, the first line is repeated twice.)  My
> >> >machine has 128 MB of RAM and 202 MB of free disk
> >> >space on the partition on which Cygwin is installed.
> >> >
> >> >Can anybody tell me what's causing this?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Damian
> >> >
> >> >--
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> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 1:44 PM
> To: Todd Goodman
> Cc: cygwin
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>
> >> You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  
> BTW, where is
> >> the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
> >
> >Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an 
> MSDOS program),
> >select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory
> there is
> >an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto 
> by default.
> >
> 
> Oh you may be better off leaving that the way it was.  That will do no
> good or harm to your Cygwin, in my opinion.  Also Microsoft does not
> advice using a config.sys file on NT.

I have it back at the Auto default.

I have a config.sys file since it is a dual boot to Win95 which is
certainly supported by Microsoft.

> 
> 
> >Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
> installation
> >on
> >the same drive (a FAT partition).
> 
> Did you run the NT partition during installation?  It should 
> have taken
> care of it, unless you forced the Nt installed to install OS 
> in the same
> directory where Win95 was already installed.  In that case you are in
> big trouble and may consider backing up your data and cleaning the
> disk... then doing a fresh install.

You mean the NT partitioning program?  I ran whatever the installation
brought up (I honestly don't remember).

I didn't force the install anywhere, it went into the default WINNT
directory (windows was in WINDOWS).

Thanks,

Todd

> 
> --S
> 
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

The answer is in FAQ.  You need to edit your config.sys file on Win95/98.
It occurs only on win95/98.  
FAQ link is on the Cygnus web pages.


-----Original Message-----
From: Damian Rouson <rouson@exponent.com>
To: 'cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:11 PM
Subject: "Out of environment space" error


>I have tried running beta 20.1 of the bash shell on
>both Windows 95 & 98.  In both cases, I get the error
>"Out of environment space
> Bad command or file name"
>upon launching the shell and then shell exits.
>(With Win98, the first line is repeated twice.)  My
>machine has 128 MB of RAM and 202 MB of free disk
>space on the partition on which Cygwin is installed.
>
>Can anybody tell me what's causing this?
>
>
>Damian
>
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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

Yes, it is a dual-boot NT and Win95 machine.  Yes, they're on the same
partition.  Please let me know why you think this is not a valid
configuration.  I believe it is a well supported configuration by
Microsoft.

I did however, determine the problem thanks to help from all those
who answered.

My shortcut to CYGNUS.BAT looks like it was migrated during the NT
install.  That gave the properties tabs that were unexpected by
Suhaib and Earnie.  I believe it also continued to run CYGNUS.BAT
under COMMAND.COM as opposed to CMD.EXE.

I created a new shortcut and the properties tabs are as expected
along with the "Out of environment space" message no longer
occuring.

Thanks to all,

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 7:25 AM
> To: Todd Goodman; earnie_boyd@yahoo.com
> Cc: 'cygwin users'
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> Are you having NT and Win95 as a dual-boot machine?  If it is 
> true, then
> are they on separate partitions?
> 
> --S
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
> To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>;
> <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
> Cc: 'cygwin users' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 10:07 PM
> Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> >No!  NT is not installed in the windows directory!  Windows is in the
> >windows directory.  NT is in the NT directory.
> >
> >As mentioned, the properties contain NT specific items.  They are not
> >the same as is available under WIN95.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 2:01 PM
> >> To: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com; Todd Goodman
> >> Cc: 'cygwin users'
> >> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites
> >> dialog.  The
> >> >Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and
> >> Colors; in
> >> >that order.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I assume what he has is Win95 DOS shell.  I think he
> >> installed Nt in the
> >> Win95 directory therefore he is having a win95 and Nt stuff mixed
> >> together.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

Are you having NT and Win95 as a dual-boot machine?  If it is true, then
are they on separate partitions?

--S


----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>;
<earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
Cc: 'cygwin users' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error


>No!  NT is not installed in the windows directory!  Windows is in the
>windows directory.  NT is in the NT directory.
>
>As mentioned, the properties contain NT specific items.  They are not
>the same as is available under WIN95.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 2:01 PM
>> To: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com; Todd Goodman
>> Cc: 'cygwin users'
>> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites
>> dialog.  The
>> >Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and
>> Colors; in
>> >that order.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I assume what he has is Win95 DOS shell.  I think he
>> installed Nt in the
>> Win95 directory therefore he is having a win95 and Nt stuff mixed
>> together.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

By the way, what this actually mean?

>>I have set the properties for auto memory and also
> >4096 with no difference.

I am not aware of properties for auto memory and 4096?  Can you please
enlighten me on this?  Am I missing something on my NT?
Is this something you installed from a shareware or freeware?  If so, it
might very well be a culprit for your problems.

Regards
Suhaib



----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>; 'Damian Rouson'
<rouson@exponent.com>; <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error


>Yes, it certainly must be something to do with my NT environment
>since others have reported that they don't see it.
>
>FWIW, when I was running under Win95 I successfully got rid of
>the messages using the steps in the FAQ.
>
>Todd
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 7:04 AM
>> To: Todd Goodman; 'Damian Rouson'; cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>> Good to know it.  I assume it could be specific to your NT env.
>> I am also using NT 4.0 with SP4 on 2 machines.  Both has Cygwin B20.1
>> installed.  I never had *out of env* problems on my NT 4 with SP 4.
>> Though, as a thumb rule, I always use a pagefile on all the
>> disks and my
>> pagefiles
>> on NT are always twice the size of my physical RAM.  According to my
>> experience, and also some documents
>> at microsoft web pages, it improves the performance of NT.
>>
>> Regards
>> Suhaib
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
>> To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>; 'Damian Rouson'
>> <rouson@exponent.com>; <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 11:42 PM
>> Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>> >It is untrue that it only happens on Win 95/98.
>> >
>> >I get "Out of environment" errors for every "set"
>> >line in the cygnus.bat file when run from my
>> >NT 4.0 SP 4 machine.
>> >
>> >I have set the properties for auto memory and also
>> >4096 with no difference.
>> >
>> >Todd
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> >> [ mailto:cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib M.
>> >> Siddiqi
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 10:11 PM
>> >> To: Damian Rouson; cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> >> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The answer is in FAQ.  You need to edit your config.sys file
>> >> on Win95/98.
>> >> It occurs only on win95/98.
>> >> FAQ link is on the Cygnus web pages.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Damian Rouson <rouson@exponent.com>
>> >> To: 'cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:11 PM
>> >> Subject: "Out of environment space" error
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >I have tried running beta 20.1 of the bash shell on
>> >> >both Windows 95 & 98.  In both cases, I get the error
>> >> >"Out of environment space
>> >> > Bad command or file name"
>> >> >upon launching the shell and then shell exits.
>> >> >(With Win98, the first line is repeated twice.)  My
>> >> >machine has 128 MB of RAM and 202 MB of free disk
>> >> >space on the partition on which Cygwin is installed.
>> >> >
>> >> >Can anybody tell me what's causing this?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Damian
>> >> >
>> >> >--
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>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Corinna Vinschen]

Michael Hirmke wrote:
> 
> Suhaib M. Siddiqi [Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com] wrote:
> 
> [...]
> This is mainly because of the "<drive>:\Program Files" directory, which is
> used by both '95 and NT. If they are on the same partition, they use the
> [...]
> And yes, you *really* should avoid installing them on the same
> partition, because of that problem.

Yes, you *really* should avoid to install '95 ;)

Corinna

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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

It is untrue that it only happens on Win 95/98.

I get "Out of environment" errors for every "set"
line in the cygnus.bat file when run from my
NT 4.0 SP 4 machine.

I have set the properties for auto memory and also
4096 with no difference.

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
> [ mailto:cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib M.
> Siddiqi
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 10:11 PM
> To: Damian Rouson; cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> The answer is in FAQ.  You need to edit your config.sys file 
> on Win95/98.
> It occurs only on win95/98.  
> FAQ link is on the Cygnus web pages.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Damian Rouson <rouson@exponent.com>
> To: 'cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:11 PM
> Subject: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> >I have tried running beta 20.1 of the bash shell on
> >both Windows 95 & 98.  In both cases, I get the error
> >"Out of environment space
> > Bad command or file name"
> >upon launching the shell and then shell exits.
> >(With Win98, the first line is repeated twice.)  My
> >machine has 128 MB of RAM and 202 MB of free disk
> >space on the partition on which Cygwin is installed.
> >
> >Can anybody tell me what's causing this?
> >
> >
> >Damian
> >
> >--
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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

No!  NT is not installed in the windows directory!  Windows is in the
windows directory.  NT is in the NT directory.

As mentioned, the properties contain NT specific items.  They are not
the same as is available under WIN95.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 2:01 PM
> To: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com; Todd Goodman
> Cc: 'cygwin users'
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites 
> dialog.  The
> >Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and 
> Colors; in
> >that order.
> >
> >
> 
> I assume what he has is Win95 DOS shell.  I think he 
> installed Nt in the
> Win95 directory therefore he is having a win95 and Nt stuff mixed
> together.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Earnie Boyd [ mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com ]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 10:16 AM
> To: Todd Goodman
> Cc: cygwin users
> Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error
>
>
> ---Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 8<
> >
> > It is untrue that it only happens on Win 95/98.
> >
> > I get "Out of environment" errors for every "set"
> > line in the cygnus.bat file when run from my
> > NT 4.0 SP 4 machine.
> >
> > I have set the properties for auto memory and also
> > 4096 with no difference.
> >
> > Todd
> 8<
>
> You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  BTW, where is
> the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?

Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an MSDOS program),
select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory there is
an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto by default.

Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95 installation
on
the same drive (a FAT partition).

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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

Sorry folks, I cannot e-mail it.  I have the document I mentioned in
hard-copy format only.  I do not remember the web link from where I got
it.  It is certainly the best document I came accross on seting up a
dual and triple boot machine. It will guid you to set up NT, Win95 DOS
and LInux on the same machine, step by step and is writen by a Microsoft
Nt engineer.  Do not remeber even his name and is not mentioned in the
document, thought it does have a disclaimer at the end that Microsoft
does not endorse it.

All I can offer is to Fax it to one or two persons maximum.  it is 20
page document.  Unless someone is willing to volunteer and rewrite it in
HTML format and post it on his web pages.  I cannot post it on my web
pages, due to company restrictions.

regards

Suhaib





----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Garceau <PEGarceau@lbl.gov>
To: Suhaib M. Siddiqi <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error


>Greetings,
>
> I was just noticing your latest post to the mailing list.  We are
>using Cygwin-b19 and b20.1, and have been looking for something
>(unofficial or otherwise) from MS re: dual/triple booting.
>
>On 4 Mar 99, at 13:06,  the Illustrious Suhaib M. Siddiqi  wrote:
>
>> Regarding the NT and Win95 on the same partition.  I am not sure it
is
>> supported.  The documents I have from Microsoft web site, it clearly
>> explains how to setup and dual and triple boot machine with NT, Win95
and
>> Dos and possibley Linux.  According this document, it is suggested
each
>> operating system must reside on its own partition.  This document is
not
>> distributed officically distributed by Microsoft, but is written by
one of
>> their Windows Nt engineer and is distributed by him.  I do not
remember
>> the web link any more, but if you darely need it, I will not mind
Faxing
>> it to you.
>
> Would you be willing to email it to me?
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Peace,
>
> Paul G.
>


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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

>
>There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites dialog.  The
>Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and Colors; in
>that order.
>
>

I assume what he has is Win95 DOS shell.  I think he installed Nt in the
Win95 directory therefore he is having a win95 and Nt stuff mixed
together.





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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

>
>> 8<
>>
>> There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites dialog.
The
>> Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and Colors;
in
>> that order.
>
>I have General, Program, Font, Memory, Screen, Misc.
>
>Program contains a Windows NT button that lets me select the
autoexec.bat
>and config.sys

Microsoft does not advice using config.sys on NT.  Please check
Micorosft Knowledge base on their web pages.  They even advice of not
using autoexec.bat on NT for env stuff.


>to use (defaulting to %SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32\AUTOEXEC.BAT and
CONFIG.SYS).
>
>Sure looks like NT to me.
>
>>
>> 8<
>> > Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
>> installation
>> > on
>> > the same drive (a FAT partition).
>> 8<
>>
>> My guess here is that you didn't properly install NT.  Don't know
what
>> you've as a result.  I suggest trying it again as this is definitely
>> not NT.
>
>I believe it is installed properly.  I was able to install SP4 after
all and
>all NT programs are running OK.
>
>Thanks anyway,
>
>Todd
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Michael Hirmke]

Suhaib M. Siddiqi [Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com] wrote:

[...]
>and Dos and possibley Linux.  According this document, it is suggested
>each operating system must reside on its own partition.  This document

This is mainly because of the "<drive>:\Program Files" directory, which is
used by both '95 and NT. If they are on the same partition, they use the
same directory for program files and programs with different versions
for '95 and NT may run into trouble.
And yes, you *really* should avoid installing them on the same
partition, because of that problem.

[...]
>
>Regards
>Suhaib

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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

>>
>> You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  BTW, where is
>> the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
>
>Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an MSDOS program),
>select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory
there is
>an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto by default.
>

Oh you may be better off leaving that the way it was.  That will do no
good or harm to your Cygwin, in my opinion.  Also Microsoft does not
advice using a config.sys file on NT.


>Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
installation
>on
>the same drive (a FAT partition).

Did you run the NT partition during installation?  It should have taken
care of it, unless you forced the Nt installed to install OS in the same
directory where Win95 was already installed.  In that case you are in
big trouble and may consider backing up your data and cleaning the
disk... then doing a fresh install.

--S

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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

-----Original Message-----
From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna.vinschen@cityweb.de>
To: Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>
Cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error


>Michael Hirmke wrote:
>>
>> Suhaib M. Siddiqi [Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com] wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>> This is mainly because of the "<drive>:\Program Files" directory, which
is
>> used by both '95 and NT. If they are on the same partition, they use the
>> [...]
>> And yes, you *really* should avoid installing them on the same
>> partition, because of that problem.
>
>Yes, you *really* should avoid to install '95 ;)

ditto :-)  Avoid Win98 too, til Win 200x, comes out.  MS is planning to have
the same kernel, stolen from NT, on all the versions of Windows.

>
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>
To: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error


>Suhaib M. Siddiqi [Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com] wrote:
>
>[...]
>>and Dos and possibley Linux.  According this document, it is suggested
>>each operating system must reside on its own partition.  This document
>
>This is mainly because of the "<drive>:\Program Files" directory, which is
>used by both '95 and NT. If they are on the same partition, they use the
>same directory for program files and programs with different versions
>for '95 and NT may run into trouble.

Thanks for explaination.  Yes that is one of the reason, I wa aware of it,
among few other reasons.

Thanks Michael.

--S

>And yes, you *really* should avoid installing them on the same
>partition, because of that problem.
>
>[...]
>>
>>Regards
>>Suhaib
>
>Bye.
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Corinna Vinschen]

Michael Hirmke wrote:
> 
> Suhaib M. Siddiqi [Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com] wrote:
> 
> [...]
> This is mainly because of the "<drive>:\Program Files" directory, which is
> used by both '95 and NT. If they are on the same partition, they use the
> [...]
> And yes, you *really* should avoid installing them on the same
> partition, because of that problem.

Yes, you *really* should avoid to install '95 ;)

Corinna

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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Michael Hirmke]

Suhaib M. Siddiqi [Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com] wrote:

[...]
>and Dos and possibley Linux.  According this document, it is suggested
>each operating system must reside on its own partition.  This document

This is mainly because of the "<drive>:\Program Files" directory, which is
used by both '95 and NT. If they are on the same partition, they use the
same directory for program files and programs with different versions
for '95 and NT may run into trouble.
And yes, you *really* should avoid installing them on the same
partition, because of that problem.

[...]
>
>Regards
>Suhaib

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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

Sorry folks, I cannot e-mail it.  I have the document I mentioned in
hard-copy format only.  I do not remember the web link from where I got
it.  It is certainly the best document I came accross on seting up a
dual and triple boot machine. It will guid you to set up NT, Win95 DOS
and LInux on the same machine, step by step and is writen by a Microsoft
Nt engineer.  Do not remeber even his name and is not mentioned in the
document, thought it does have a disclaimer at the end that Microsoft
does not endorse it.

All I can offer is to Fax it to one or two persons maximum.  it is 20
page document.  Unless someone is willing to volunteer and rewrite it in
HTML format and post it on his web pages.  I cannot post it on my web
pages, due to company restrictions.

regards

Suhaib





----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Garceau <PEGarceau@lbl.gov>
To: Suhaib M. Siddiqi <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error


>Greetings,
>
> I was just noticing your latest post to the mailing list.  We are
>using Cygwin-b19 and b20.1, and have been looking for something
>(unofficial or otherwise) from MS re: dual/triple booting.
>
>On 4 Mar 99, at 13:06,  the Illustrious Suhaib M. Siddiqi  wrote:
>
>> Regarding the NT and Win95 on the same partition.  I am not sure it
is
>> supported.  The documents I have from Microsoft web site, it clearly
>> explains how to setup and dual and triple boot machine with NT, Win95
and
>> Dos and possibley Linux.  According this document, it is suggested
each
>> operating system must reside on its own partition.  This document is
not
>> distributed officically distributed by Microsoft, but is written by
one of
>> their Windows Nt engineer and is distributed by him.  I do not
remember
>> the web link any more, but if you darely need it, I will not mind
Faxing
>> it to you.
>
> Would you be willing to email it to me?
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Peace,
>
> Paul G.
>


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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

>Yes, it is a dual-boot NT and Win95 machine.  Yes, they're on the same
>partition.  Please let me know why you think this is not a valid
>configuration.  I believe it is a well supported configuration by
>Microsoft.
>

Good to know you do not have problems with Cygwin any more.

Regarding the NT and Win95 on the same partition.  I am not sure it is
supported.  The documents I have from Microsoft web site, it clearly
explains how to setup and dual and triple boot machine with NT, Win95
and Dos and possibley Linux.  According this document, it is suggested
each operating system must reside on its own partition.  This document
is not distributed officically distributed by Microsoft, but is written
by one of their Windows Nt engineer and is distributed by him.  I do not
remember the web link any more, but if you darely need it, I will not
mind Faxing it to you.

Regards
Suhaib

>I did however, determine the problem thanks to help from all those
>who answered.
>
>My shortcut to CYGNUS.BAT looks like it was migrated during the NT
>install.  That gave the properties tabs that were unexpected by
>Suhaib and Earnie.  I believe it also continued to run CYGNUS.BAT
>under COMMAND.COM as opposed to CMD.EXE.
>
>I created a new shortcut and the properties tabs are as expected
>along with the "Out of environment space" message no longer
>occuring.
>
>Thanks to all,
>
>Todd
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 7:25 AM
>> To: Todd Goodman; earnie_boyd@yahoo.com
>> Cc: 'cygwin users'
>> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>> Are you having NT and Win95 as a dual-boot machine?  If it is
>> true, then
>> are they on separate partitions?
>>
>> --S
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
>> To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>;
>> <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: 'cygwin users' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 10:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>> >No!  NT is not installed in the windows directory!  Windows is in
the
>> >windows directory.  NT is in the NT directory.
>> >
>> >As mentioned, the properties contain NT specific items.  They are
not
>> >the same as is available under WIN95.
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 2:01 PM
>> >> To: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com; Todd Goodman
>> >> Cc: 'cygwin users'
>> >> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites
>> >> dialog.  The
>> >> >Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and
>> >> Colors; in
>> >> >that order.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I assume what he has is Win95 DOS shell.  I think he
>> >> installed Nt in the
>> >> Win95 directory therefore he is having a win95 and Nt stuff mixed
>> >> together.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

Yes, it is a dual-boot NT and Win95 machine.  Yes, they're on the same
partition.  Please let me know why you think this is not a valid
configuration.  I believe it is a well supported configuration by
Microsoft.

I did however, determine the problem thanks to help from all those
who answered.

My shortcut to CYGNUS.BAT looks like it was migrated during the NT
install.  That gave the properties tabs that were unexpected by
Suhaib and Earnie.  I believe it also continued to run CYGNUS.BAT
under COMMAND.COM as opposed to CMD.EXE.

I created a new shortcut and the properties tabs are as expected
along with the "Out of environment space" message no longer
occuring.

Thanks to all,

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 7:25 AM
> To: Todd Goodman; earnie_boyd@yahoo.com
> Cc: 'cygwin users'
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> Are you having NT and Win95 as a dual-boot machine?  If it is 
> true, then
> are they on separate partitions?
> 
> --S
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
> To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>;
> <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
> Cc: 'cygwin users' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 10:07 PM
> Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> >No!  NT is not installed in the windows directory!  Windows is in the
> >windows directory.  NT is in the NT directory.
> >
> >As mentioned, the properties contain NT specific items.  They are not
> >the same as is available under WIN95.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 2:01 PM
> >> To: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com; Todd Goodman
> >> Cc: 'cygwin users'
> >> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites
> >> dialog.  The
> >> >Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and
> >> Colors; in
> >> >that order.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I assume what he has is Win95 DOS shell.  I think he
> >> installed Nt in the
> >> Win95 directory therefore he is having a win95 and Nt stuff mixed
> >> together.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Michael V. Nikolaev]

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Hi!

I think you are attempting to modify properties of MS-DOS application of Windows 95 shortcut, pif-file. Under NT, properties of such files look exactly as you described.

Regards,
Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>
To: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>; earnie_boyd@yahoo.com <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
Cc: 'cygwin users' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Date: 4 áåðåçíÿ 1999 ð. 14:17
Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error


>
>
>>
>>> 8<
>>>
>>> There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites dialog.
>The
>>> Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and Colors;
>in
>>> that order.
>>
>>I have General, Program, Font, Memory, Screen, Misc.
>>
>>Program contains a Windows NT button that lets me select the
>autoexec.bat
>>and config.sys
>
>Microsoft does not advice using config.sys on NT.  Please check
>Micorosft Knowledge base on their web pages.  They even advice of not
>using autoexec.bat on NT for env stuff.
>
>
>>to use (defaulting to %SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32\AUTOEXEC.BAT and
>CONFIG.SYS).
>>
>>Sure looks like NT to me.
>>
>>>
>>> 8<
>>> > Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
>>> installation
>>> > on
>>> > the same drive (a FAT partition).
>>> 8<
>>>
>>> My guess here is that you didn't properly install NT.  Don't know
>what
>>> you've as a result.  I suggest trying it again as this is definitely
>>> not NT.
>>
>>I believe it is installed properly.  I was able to install SP4 after
>all and
>>all NT programs are running OK.
>>
>>Thanks anyway,
>>
>>Todd
>>
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

>
>> 8<
>>
>> There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites dialog.
The
>> Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and Colors;
in
>> that order.
>
>I have General, Program, Font, Memory, Screen, Misc.
>
>Program contains a Windows NT button that lets me select the
autoexec.bat
>and config.sys

Microsoft does not advice using config.sys on NT.  Please check
Micorosft Knowledge base on their web pages.  They even advice of not
using autoexec.bat on NT for env stuff.


>to use (defaulting to %SystemRoot%\SYSTEM32\AUTOEXEC.BAT and
CONFIG.SYS).
>
>Sure looks like NT to me.
>
>>
>> 8<
>> > Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
>> installation
>> > on
>> > the same drive (a FAT partition).
>> 8<
>>
>> My guess here is that you didn't properly install NT.  Don't know
what
>> you've as a result.  I suggest trying it again as this is definitely
>> not NT.
>
>I believe it is installed properly.  I was able to install SP4 after
all and
>all NT programs are running OK.
>
>Thanks anyway,
>
>Todd
>
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

Are you having NT and Win95 as a dual-boot machine?  If it is true, then
are they on separate partitions?

--S


----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>;
<earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
Cc: 'cygwin users' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error


>No!  NT is not installed in the windows directory!  Windows is in the
>windows directory.  NT is in the NT directory.
>
>As mentioned, the properties contain NT specific items.  They are not
>the same as is available under WIN95.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 2:01 PM
>> To: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com; Todd Goodman
>> Cc: 'cygwin users'
>> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites
>> dialog.  The
>> >Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and
>> Colors; in
>> >that order.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I assume what he has is Win95 DOS shell.  I think he
>> installed Nt in the
>> Win95 directory therefore he is having a win95 and Nt stuff mixed
>> together.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

OK.  Thanks.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Nelson [ mailto:mikenel@iapetus.com ]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 3:49 PM
> To: Suhaib M. Siddiqi; Todd Goodman
> Cc: cygwin
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> On NT, make sure you are using "cmd.exe" as your shell and 
> not "command.com"
> (which runs in the VDM and has all of DOS's nasty limitations).
> 
> -mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>
> To: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
> Cc: cygwin <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>> You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  
> BTW, where is
> >>> the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
> >>
> >>Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an 
> MSDOS program),
> >>select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory
> >there is
> >>an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto 
> by default.
> >>
> >
> >Oh you may be better off leaving that the way it was.  That 
> will do no
> >good or harm to your Cygwin, in my opinion.  Also Microsoft does not
> >advice using a config.sys file on NT.
> >
> >
> >>Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
> >installation
> >>on
> >>the same drive (a FAT partition).
> >
> >Did you run the NT partition during installation?  It should 
> have taken
> >care of it, unless you forced the Nt installed to install OS 
> in the same
> >directory where Win95 was already installed.  In that case you are in
> >big trouble and may consider backing up your data and cleaning the
> >disk... then doing a fresh install.
> 
> 
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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

No!  NT is not installed in the windows directory!  Windows is in the
windows directory.  NT is in the NT directory.

As mentioned, the properties contain NT specific items.  They are not
the same as is available under WIN95.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 2:01 PM
> To: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com; Todd Goodman
> Cc: 'cygwin users'
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites 
> dialog.  The
> >Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and 
> Colors; in
> >that order.
> >
> >
> 
> I assume what he has is Win95 DOS shell.  I think he 
> installed Nt in the
> Win95 directory therefore he is having a win95 and Nt stuff mixed
> together.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 1:44 PM
> To: Todd Goodman
> Cc: cygwin
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>
> >> You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  
> BTW, where is
> >> the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
> >
> >Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an 
> MSDOS program),
> >select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory
> there is
> >an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto 
> by default.
> >
> 
> Oh you may be better off leaving that the way it was.  That will do no
> good or harm to your Cygwin, in my opinion.  Also Microsoft does not
> advice using a config.sys file on NT.

I have it back at the Auto default.

I have a config.sys file since it is a dual boot to Win95 which is
certainly supported by Microsoft.

> 
> 
> >Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
> installation
> >on
> >the same drive (a FAT partition).
> 
> Did you run the NT partition during installation?  It should 
> have taken
> care of it, unless you forced the Nt installed to install OS 
> in the same
> directory where Win95 was already installed.  In that case you are in
> big trouble and may consider backing up your data and cleaning the
> disk... then doing a fresh install.

You mean the NT partitioning program?  I ran whatever the installation
brought up (I honestly don't remember).

I didn't force the install anywhere, it went into the default WINNT
directory (windows was in WINDOWS).

Thanks,

Todd

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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Michael Nelson]

On NT, make sure you are using "cmd.exe" as your shell and not "command.com"
(which runs in the VDM and has all of DOS's nasty limitations).

-mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>
To: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
Cc: cygwin <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error


>
>
>>>
>>> You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  BTW, where is
>>> the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
>>
>>Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an MSDOS program),
>>select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory
>there is
>>an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto by default.
>>
>
>Oh you may be better off leaving that the way it was.  That will do no
>good or harm to your Cygwin, in my opinion.  Also Microsoft does not
>advice using a config.sys file on NT.
>
>
>>Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
>installation
>>on
>>the same drive (a FAT partition).
>
>Did you run the NT partition during installation?  It should have taken
>care of it, unless you forced the Nt installed to install OS in the same
>directory where Win95 was already installed.  In that case you are in
>big trouble and may consider backing up your data and cleaning the
>disk... then doing a fresh install.



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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

>
>There is no Memory Tab on the NT MS-DOS Prompt Properites dialog.  The
>Tabs should be General, Shortcut, Options, Font, Layout and Colors; in
>that order.
>
>

I assume what he has is Win95 DOS shell.  I think he installed Nt in the
Win95 directory therefore he is having a win95 and Nt stuff mixed
together.





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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

>>
>> You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  BTW, where is
>> the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
>
>Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an MSDOS program),
>select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory
there is
>an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto by default.
>

Oh you may be better off leaving that the way it was.  That will do no
good or harm to your Cygwin, in my opinion.  Also Microsoft does not
advice using a config.sys file on NT.


>Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95
installation
>on
>the same drive (a FAT partition).

Did you run the NT partition during installation?  It should have taken
care of it, unless you forced the Nt installed to install OS in the same
directory where Win95 was already installed.  In that case you are in
big trouble and may consider backing up your data and cleaning the
disk... then doing a fresh install.

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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Earnie Boyd [ mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com ]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 10:16 AM
> To: Todd Goodman
> Cc: cygwin users
> Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error
>
>
> ---Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 8<
> >
> > It is untrue that it only happens on Win 95/98.
> >
> > I get "Out of environment" errors for every "set"
> > line in the cygnus.bat file when run from my
> > NT 4.0 SP 4 machine.
> >
> > I have set the properties for auto memory and also
> > 4096 with no difference.
> >
> > Todd
> 8<
>
> You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  BTW, where is
> the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?

Right click on the shortcut (which is a short-cut to an MSDOS program),
select Properties, then Memory Tab, then under Conventional Memory there is
an Initial Environment drop down box which was set to Auto by default.

Perhaps it has to do with my installing NT over an existing 95 installation
on
the same drive (a FAT partition).

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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

By the way, what this actually mean?

>>I have set the properties for auto memory and also
> >4096 with no difference.

I am not aware of properties for auto memory and 4096?  Can you please
enlighten me on this?  Am I missing something on my NT?
Is this something you installed from a shareware or freeware?  If so, it
might very well be a culprit for your problems.

Regards
Suhaib



----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>; 'Damian Rouson'
<rouson@exponent.com>; <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error


>Yes, it certainly must be something to do with my NT environment
>since others have reported that they don't see it.
>
>FWIW, when I was running under Win95 I successfully got rid of
>the messages using the steps in the FAQ.
>
>Todd
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 7:04 AM
>> To: Todd Goodman; 'Damian Rouson'; cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>> Good to know it.  I assume it could be specific to your NT env.
>> I am also using NT 4.0 with SP4 on 2 machines.  Both has Cygwin B20.1
>> installed.  I never had *out of env* problems on my NT 4 with SP 4.
>> Though, as a thumb rule, I always use a pagefile on all the
>> disks and my
>> pagefiles
>> on NT are always twice the size of my physical RAM.  According to my
>> experience, and also some documents
>> at microsoft web pages, it improves the performance of NT.
>>
>> Regards
>> Suhaib
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
>> To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>; 'Damian Rouson'
>> <rouson@exponent.com>; <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 11:42 PM
>> Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>> >It is untrue that it only happens on Win 95/98.
>> >
>> >I get "Out of environment" errors for every "set"
>> >line in the cygnus.bat file when run from my
>> >NT 4.0 SP 4 machine.
>> >
>> >I have set the properties for auto memory and also
>> >4096 with no difference.
>> >
>> >Todd
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> >> [ mailto:cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib M.
>> >> Siddiqi
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 10:11 PM
>> >> To: Damian Rouson; cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> >> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The answer is in FAQ.  You need to edit your config.sys file
>> >> on Win95/98.
>> >> It occurs only on win95/98.
>> >> FAQ link is on the Cygnus web pages.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Damian Rouson <rouson@exponent.com>
>> >> To: 'cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:11 PM
>> >> Subject: "Out of environment space" error
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >I have tried running beta 20.1 of the bash shell on
>> >> >both Windows 95 & 98.  In both cases, I get the error
>> >> >"Out of environment space
>> >> > Bad command or file name"
>> >> >upon launching the shell and then shell exits.
>> >> >(With Win98, the first line is repeated twice.)  My
>> >> >machine has 128 MB of RAM and 202 MB of free disk
>> >> >space on the partition on which Cygwin is installed.
>> >> >
>> >> >Can anybody tell me what's causing this?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Damian
>> >> >
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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

Yes, it certainly must be something to do with my NT environment
since others have reported that they don't see it.

FWIW, when I was running under Win95 I successfully got rid of
the messages using the steps in the FAQ.

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suhaib M. Siddiqi [ mailto:Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com ]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 7:04 AM
> To: Todd Goodman; 'Damian Rouson'; cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> Good to know it.  I assume it could be specific to your NT env.
> I am also using NT 4.0 with SP4 on 2 machines.  Both has Cygwin B20.1
> installed.  I never had *out of env* problems on my NT 4 with SP 4.
> Though, as a thumb rule, I always use a pagefile on all the 
> disks and my
> pagefiles
> on NT are always twice the size of my physical RAM.  According to my
> experience, and also some documents
> at microsoft web pages, it improves the performance of NT.
> 
> Regards
> Suhaib
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
> To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>; 'Damian Rouson'
> <rouson@exponent.com>; <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 11:42 PM
> Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> >It is untrue that it only happens on Win 95/98.
> >
> >I get "Out of environment" errors for every "set"
> >line in the cygnus.bat file when run from my
> >NT 4.0 SP 4 machine.
> >
> >I have set the properties for auto memory and also
> >4096 with no difference.
> >
> >Todd
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
> >> [ mailto:cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib M.
> >> Siddiqi
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 10:11 PM
> >> To: Damian Rouson; cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
> >> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> >>
> >>
> >> The answer is in FAQ.  You need to edit your config.sys file
> >> on Win95/98.
> >> It occurs only on win95/98.
> >> FAQ link is on the Cygnus web pages.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Damian Rouson <rouson@exponent.com>
> >> To: 'cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:11 PM
> >> Subject: "Out of environment space" error
> >>
> >>
> >> >I have tried running beta 20.1 of the bash shell on
> >> >both Windows 95 & 98.  In both cases, I get the error
> >> >"Out of environment space
> >> > Bad command or file name"
> >> >upon launching the shell and then shell exits.
> >> >(With Win98, the first line is repeated twice.)  My
> >> >machine has 128 MB of RAM and 202 MB of free disk
> >> >space on the partition on which Cygwin is installed.
> >> >
> >> >Can anybody tell me what's causing this?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Damian
> >> >
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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Earnie Boyd]

---Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net> wrote:
8<
>
> It is untrue that it only happens on Win 95/98.
> 
> I get "Out of environment" errors for every "set"
> line in the cygnus.bat file when run from my
> NT 4.0 SP 4 machine.
> 
> I have set the properties for auto memory and also
> 4096 with no difference.
> 
> Todd
8<

You are the first NT user I've seen have this problem.  BTW, where is
the properties window for setting auto memory or 4096 on NT?
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

Good to know it.  I assume it could be specific to your NT env.
I am also using NT 4.0 with SP4 on 2 machines.  Both has Cygwin B20.1
installed.  I never had *out of env* problems on my NT 4 with SP 4.
Though, as a thumb rule, I always use a pagefile on all the disks and my
pagefiles
on NT are always twice the size of my physical RAM.  According to my
experience, and also some documents
at microsoft web pages, it improves the performance of NT.

Regards
Suhaib





----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Goodman <tsg1@earthlink.net>
To: 'Suhaib M. Siddiqi' <Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com>; 'Damian Rouson'
<rouson@exponent.com>; <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: "Out of environment space" error


>It is untrue that it only happens on Win 95/98.
>
>I get "Out of environment" errors for every "set"
>line in the cygnus.bat file when run from my
>NT 4.0 SP 4 machine.
>
>I have set the properties for auto memory and also
>4096 with no difference.
>
>Todd
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> [ mailto:cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib M.
>> Siddiqi
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 10:11 PM
>> To: Damian Rouson; cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
>> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>> The answer is in FAQ.  You need to edit your config.sys file
>> on Win95/98.
>> It occurs only on win95/98.
>> FAQ link is on the Cygnus web pages.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Damian Rouson <rouson@exponent.com>
>> To: 'cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:11 PM
>> Subject: "Out of environment space" error
>>
>>
>> >I have tried running beta 20.1 of the bash shell on
>> >both Windows 95 & 98.  In both cases, I get the error
>> >"Out of environment space
>> > Bad command or file name"
>> >upon launching the shell and then shell exits.
>> >(With Win98, the first line is repeated twice.)  My
>> >machine has 128 MB of RAM and 202 MB of free disk
>> >space on the partition on which Cygwin is installed.
>> >
>> >Can anybody tell me what's causing this?
>> >
>> >
>> >Damian
>> >
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RE: "Out of environment space" error

[Todd Goodman]

It is untrue that it only happens on Win 95/98.

I get "Out of environment" errors for every "set"
line in the cygnus.bat file when run from my
NT 4.0 SP 4 machine.

I have set the properties for auto memory and also
4096 with no difference.

Todd

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> From: cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
> [ mailto:cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib M.
> Siddiqi
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 10:11 PM
> To: Damian Rouson; cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
> Subject: Re: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> The answer is in FAQ.  You need to edit your config.sys file 
> on Win95/98.
> It occurs only on win95/98.  
> FAQ link is on the Cygnus web pages.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Damian Rouson <rouson@exponent.com>
> To: 'cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:11 PM
> Subject: "Out of environment space" error
> 
> 
> >I have tried running beta 20.1 of the bash shell on
> >both Windows 95 & 98.  In both cases, I get the error
> >"Out of environment space
> > Bad command or file name"
> >upon launching the shell and then shell exits.
> >(With Win98, the first line is repeated twice.)  My
> >machine has 128 MB of RAM and 202 MB of free disk
> >space on the partition on which Cygwin is installed.
> >
> >Can anybody tell me what's causing this?
> >
> >
> >Damian
> >
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Re: "Out of environment space" error

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

The answer is in FAQ.  You need to edit your config.sys file on Win95/98.
It occurs only on win95/98.  
FAQ link is on the Cygnus web pages.


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From: Damian Rouson <rouson@exponent.com>
To: 'cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com' <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:11 PM
Subject: "Out of environment space" error


>I have tried running beta 20.1 of the bash shell on
>both Windows 95 & 98.  In both cases, I get the error
>"Out of environment space
> Bad command or file name"
>upon launching the shell and then shell exits.
>(With Win98, the first line is repeated twice.)  My
>machine has 128 MB of RAM and 202 MB of free disk
>space on the partition on which Cygwin is installed.
>
>Can anybody tell me what's causing this?
>
>
>Damian
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"Out of environment space" error

[Damian Rouson]

I have tried running beta 20.1 of the bash shell on
both Windows 95 & 98.  In both cases, I get the error
"Out of environment space
 Bad command or file name"
upon launching the shell and then shell exits.
(With Win98, the first line is repeated twice.)  My
machine has 128 MB of RAM and 202 MB of free disk
space on the partition on which Cygwin is installed.

Can anybody tell me what's causing this?


Damian

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