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From: "Dave Korn" <dave.korn@artimi.com>
To: <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Subject: RE: cygheap base mismatch detected
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:50:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <008801c63330$850ee330$a501a8c0@CAM.ARTIMI.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B7632F7D9BD7B04B94B475272FAD530805704FC9@elschivexch01.elsevier.com>

On 16 February 2006 18:03, Dill, Jens (END-CHI) wrote:

> I can't make this agree with the facts in front of me.
> 
> If it has to do with executables that allocate massive amounts
> of heap space, then how does the message appear before the
> application even starts, before it has a chance to allocate
> anything from the heap?  

  Yes, right, I misremembered, it's a year-old post FCOL.  The fact is that
/both/ conditions used to be able to cause this problem.  As should have been
perfectly clear from all those old posts you've just been reading.

> Massive amounts of statically allocated
> memory I can agree with, but not heap space.  I haven't been
> tinkering with the --heap option on the link as yet, so it's
> not even the declared heap size that is of concern.

  See, if you think there's a --heap option, you haven't been reading very
/carefully/.  And if you don't understand how the size of the .bss section can
have a knock-on effect on the location of the heap, you also haven't been
reading very carefully.

> Also, the message says that the "heap base" is mismatched.
> That doesn't necessarily indicate a connection with heap size.

  Again, if you don't understand that that is a text error message, which
summarizes a situation, which might have an underlying cause, which might be
related to heap size, then you haven't actually been reading all these old
posts too carefully.

> And if CygWin is going to artificially limit how my program
> chooses to allocate memory, it certainly should be documented
> better than this.

  Now you're just being facetious.  Describing a bug in terms as if it were a
deliberate decision that someone made just to inconvenience you is just plain
silly.

> Can I, for instance, create an executable that declares a
> sufficiently large amount of static array space, and run it
> (directly from Windows, not from a CygWin shell)
> as a startup program before any other CygWin process starts,
> so that *it* loads the CygWin DLL at a high enough address?
> If I do this, do I need to keep it running as long as the
> system is up?

  I am not going to bother re-writing all the exact same explanations that I
have already written once in those old posts.  If you can even /ask/ such an
incoherent question, you haven't got a basic grasp on the facts and I just
really don't want to spend ages explaining the fundamentals of memory maps,
loaders and dlls to you.  Get yourself a book or something.

  And the answer to your question will always be that if you want to find a
solution to a bug, you should reproduce it, then debug it, then understand it,
and then fix it.  


    cheers,
      DaveK
-- 
Can't think of a witty .sigline today....


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  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-16 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-16 18:36 Dill, Jens (END-CHI)
2006-02-16 19:50 ` Dave Korn [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-03-02  8:14 ignace danneels
2018-03-02  9:39 ` Marco Atzeri
2012-07-18  0:03 Andrew DeFaria
2012-07-18  1:56 ` Reini Urban
2012-07-18  2:37   ` Andrew DeFaria
2012-07-18 15:04     ` Reini Urban
2012-07-18 18:16       ` Andrew DeFaria
2012-07-18 18:38         ` Earnie Boyd
2012-07-18 19:03           ` Andrew DeFaria
2012-02-29 21:19 Charles Wilson
2012-02-29 23:23 ` marco atzeri
2012-03-01  5:56 ` Heiko Elger
2012-03-01  7:03   ` marco atzeri
2012-03-01 10:25   ` Corinna Vinschen
2012-03-01 10:52 ` Corinna Vinschen
2012-03-01 10:59   ` marco atzeri
2012-03-01 12:15     ` Corinna Vinschen
2012-03-01 22:44       ` Charles Wilson
2012-03-02  9:00         ` Corinna Vinschen
2012-03-02 17:11           ` Charles Wilson
2006-02-21 17:40 Dill, Jens (END-CHI)
2006-02-21 16:10 Dill, Jens (END-CHI)
2006-02-21 16:37 ` Brian Dessent
2006-02-21 19:18 ` Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
2006-02-19  3:34 Dill, Jens (END-CHI)
2006-02-19 18:41 ` Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
2006-02-20  5:26 ` Mark Geisert
2006-02-20  5:36   ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-21 21:56 ` Jason Tishler
2006-02-17 22:56 Dill, Jens (END-CHI)
2006-02-17 22:33 Dill, Jens (END-CHI)
2006-02-18 14:33 ` Mark Geisert
2006-02-17 17:43 Dill, Jens (END-CHI)
2006-02-16 23:45 Dill, Jens (END-CHI)
2006-02-17 10:23 ` Dave Korn
2006-02-16 22:05 Dill, Jens (END-CHI)
2006-02-16 19:38 Dill, Jens (END-CHI)
2006-02-16 20:06 ` Chris Taylor
2006-02-16  8:40 Dill, Jens (END-CHI)
2006-02-16 17:57 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-16 18:08 ` Dave Korn
2005-04-07 10:35 Andreas Heckel
2005-04-07 13:25 ` Dave Korn
2006-02-15 23:49   ` Jens Dill
2006-02-15 23:58     ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-16 10:42     ` Dave Korn
2005-04-08  0:10 ` Mark Hadfield
2005-04-08  7:35   ` Andreas Heckel

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