* RE: Missing libc documentation
@ 2002-07-26 6:52 Demmer, Thomas
2002-07-26 8:21 ` Robert Collins
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Demmer, Thomas @ 2002-07-26 6:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'derbyshire@globalserve.net'; +Cc: 'cygwin@cygwin.com'
Well, setup says during an upgrade that it first
uninstalls the old package, and then installs the new one.
Which files to uninstall it finds in /etc/setup/package.
I don't know if it checks if one of the files has changed,
and then not delete them but rename them to foo.old or
so. At least, this would be helpful for files like /etc/profile
This approach is basically a good idea, as it gurantees a clean
install. However, this fails if some files are omitted by the package
maintainer. I am pretty sure this did not happen on purpose
(unless cgf wants to be mean again :-)
How to extract the files manually:
1) Check if you happen to have cygwin-1.3.10-1.tar.bz2 in
your download directory
2) If not, use setup to download this version. (I hope, it is still
available, this is unchecked)
3) In a bash window, issue the following commands:
cd /
tar -vjxf
/pathtodownloaddirectory/some_cryptic_name_for_mirror/release/cygwin/cygwin-
1.3.10-1.tar.bz2 usr/info
(all in one line, in case Outlook butchered the line).
In my case it is
tar -vjxf
/cygdrive/h/cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2fftp.inf.tu-dresden.de%2fsoftware%2fwindows%2f
cygwin32/release/cygwin/cygwin-1.3.10-1.tar.bz2 /usr/info
And finally:
/etc/postinstall/update-info-dir.sh.done
HTH
Ciao
Tom
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Derbyshire [SMTP:derbyshire@globalserve.net]
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:08 AM
> To: Demmer, Thomas
> Subject: RE: Missing libc documentation
>
> On 26 Jul 2002 at 8:11, Demmer, Thomas wrote:
>
> > Paul,
> > this probably happened when you upgraded from cygwin-1.3.10-1 to
> > a newer version, there lib.info is missing. The workaround is to
> > download 1.3.10-1 and extract the files manually.
> >
> > What happened on your box is quite simple. Setup deleted all files
> > from 10-1, and then extracted all from the newer version.
>
> What you're saying makes no sense -- that the upgrade would *remove*
> needed documentation? Why would it do that? It should either leave it
> alone or replace it with better, up to date documentation, not force
> the user to get it separately.
>
> So how the hell do I get the files "manually"? And in the future what
> should I back up before using setup, that setup routinely deletes and
> doesn't replace, besides the library docs? (What as in "which
> directories and files" rather than some package name -- I'm not sure
> exactly where everything is stored and shouldn't have to learn IMO
> just to be able to upgrade without losing data!)
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* Re: Missing libc documentation
2002-07-26 6:52 Missing libc documentation Demmer, Thomas
@ 2002-07-26 8:21 ` Robert Collins
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From: Robert Collins @ 2002-07-26 8:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Demmer, Thomas, derbyshire; +Cc: cygwin
===
----- Original Message -----
From: "Demmer, Thomas" <TDemmer@krafteurope.com>
To: <derbyshire@globalserve.net>
Cc: <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 7:21 PM
Subject: RE: Missing libc documentation
> Well, setup says during an upgrade that it first
> uninstalls the old package, and then installs the new one.
> Which files to uninstall it finds in /etc/setup/package.
> I don't know if it checks if one of the files has changed,
> and then not delete them but rename them to foo.old or
> so. At least, this would be helpful for files like /etc/profile
/etc/profile is not in any package. It is created if it is absent.
Hopefully we will soon be putting it in a package, but as
/etc/profile.default, and copying that over if it is missing.
Cheers,
Rob
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* RE: Missing libc documentation
2002-07-26 7:58 Demmer, Thomas
@ 2002-07-26 14:31 ` Paul Derbyshire
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From: Paul Derbyshire @ 2002-07-26 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 26 Jul 2002 at 13:56, Demmer, Thomas wrote:
> > $ tar -vjxf
> > /cygdrive/c/cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release
> > /cygwin/cygwin-1.3.10-1.tar.bz2 /usr/info
> > tar: /usr/info: Not found in archive
> > tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
> >
> > OK, next suggestion please... *sigh*
> [Demmer, Thomas]
> Omit the leading slash before usr. If I had it in my previous mail,
> my fault, sorry.
I'll try it. I just hope it doesn't extract files into a ~/usr/info
directory...
...Well, it extracted something and didn't generate an error message,
but "info libc" still doesn't do anything useful...
...Sure enough, it created a usr directory in the local directory...
...mv usr/info/* /usr/info...
...Now it works. Thanks.
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* RE: Missing libc documentation
@ 2002-07-26 7:58 Demmer, Thomas
2002-07-26 14:31 ` Paul Derbyshire
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From: Demmer, Thomas @ 2002-07-26 7:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'derbyshire@globalserve.net'; +Cc: 'cygwin@cygwin.com'
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Derbyshire [SMTP:derbyshire@globalserve.net]
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:50 AM
> To: Demmer, Thomas
> Subject: RE: Missing libc documentation
>
> On 26 Jul 2002 at 11:21, Demmer, Thomas wrote:
>
> > Well, setup says during an upgrade that it first
> > uninstalls the old package, and then installs the new one.
>
> So it shouldn't uninstall something without installing a newer
> version. (Or the same, for a reinstall.)
> And the newer version should contain everything the older version had
> that wasn't obsolete.
> Is the libc documentation obsolete? I doubt it. If it's not, what am
> I missing here? If everything's working as it's supposed to I don't
> feel I should be in this situation.
>
> [Snip instructions.]
> $ tar -vjxf
> /cygdrive/c/cygwin/ftp%3a%2f%2farchive.progeny.com%2fcygwin/release
> /cygwin/cygwin-1.3.10-1.tar.bz2 /usr/info
> tar: /usr/info: Not found in archive
> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
>
> OK, next suggestion please... *sigh*
[Demmer, Thomas]
Omit the leading slash before usr. If I had it in my previous mail,
my fault, sorry.
What you are missing is that omitting the files was probably
*NOT INTENDED*
Ciao
Tom
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* RE: Missing libc documentation
@ 2002-07-26 4:44 Demmer, Thomas
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From: Demmer, Thomas @ 2002-07-26 4:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'derbyshire@globalserve.net', cygwin
Paul,
this probably happened when you upgraded from cygwin-1.3.10-1 to
a newer version, there lib.info is missing. The workaround is to
download 1.3.10-1 and extract the files manually.
What happened on your box is quite simple. Setup deleted all files
from 10-1, and then extracted all from the newer version.
HTH
Ciao
Tom
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Derbyshire [SMTP:derbyshire@globalserve.net]
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 4:54 AM
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: Missing libc documentation
>
> I'm not sure how, but the libc documentation in my system is missing.
> It was there this morning, and the only thing I've done since then
> that might affect documentation was to use cygwin setup, but I used
> it to upgrade some packages and install new documentation, not
> uninstall anything, so nothing should have *dis*appeared. Also,
> nobody else has had physical access to the box all day. So, can
> anyone explain how this could have happened?
>
> It gets worse. Reinstalling the "texinfo" package, all 600K of it,
> did not bring back my "info libc". I suppose I have to reinstall some
> other package to restore the libc documentation. Could someone please
> tell me which one? And please let it not be the multi-megabyte gcc
> package. Please.
>
> Finally, if anyone has any idea how the documentation got destroyed,
> I'd appreciate any information you can give about how to prevent this
> from happening again. (Especially if it does mean reinstalling the
> mutli-megabyte gcc package.) Is it typical for cygwin to go eating
> files at random? Should I be backing up my home directory outside of
> the cygwin directory? (If it decides to disappear, weeks of work will
> be lost.)
>
> It's particularly strange that this would happen to a system that's
> completely up to date -- a serious bug that causes files to vanish
> and/or messes up documentation browsing is the sort I'd expect to
> occur only with outdated buggy old stuff sitting around.
>
> In the meantime I suppose I can use DJGPP's libc documentation and
> hope the stdio functions are basically the same. (Should be; they are
> a standardized part of ANSI C.)
>
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* Missing libc documentation
@ 2002-07-26 2:14 Paul Derbyshire
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From: Paul Derbyshire @ 2002-07-26 2:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
I'm not sure how, but the libc documentation in my system is missing.
It was there this morning, and the only thing I've done since then
that might affect documentation was to use cygwin setup, but I used
it to upgrade some packages and install new documentation, not
uninstall anything, so nothing should have *dis*appeared. Also,
nobody else has had physical access to the box all day. So, can
anyone explain how this could have happened?
It gets worse. Reinstalling the "texinfo" package, all 600K of it,
did not bring back my "info libc". I suppose I have to reinstall some
other package to restore the libc documentation. Could someone please
tell me which one? And please let it not be the multi-megabyte gcc
package. Please.
Finally, if anyone has any idea how the documentation got destroyed,
I'd appreciate any information you can give about how to prevent this
from happening again. (Especially if it does mean reinstalling the
mutli-megabyte gcc package.) Is it typical for cygwin to go eating
files at random? Should I be backing up my home directory outside of
the cygwin directory? (If it decides to disappear, weeks of work will
be lost.)
It's particularly strange that this would happen to a system that's
completely up to date -- a serious bug that causes files to vanish
and/or messes up documentation browsing is the sort I'd expect to
occur only with outdated buggy old stuff sitting around.
In the meantime I suppose I can use DJGPP's libc documentation and
hope the stdio functions are basically the same. (Should be; they are
a standardized part of ANSI C.)
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