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* Re: NTEmacs shell/CygWin: should control-C work?
@ 2001-01-22 10:45 Mike Bresnahan
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From: Mike Bresnahan @ 2001-01-22 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

XEmacs and GNU emacs are different in many ways.  I switched to XEmacs a few
years ago and then switched back to GNU emacs.  Some differences of note:

- There are subtle differences in the LISP code.  You may have to make
changes to your .emacs file.
- XEmacs is also considerbly slower to load and perform other tasks.
- XEmacs does not have the ctrl-<left click> buffer menu.
- Lots of other small differences in the interface

Mike Bresnahan
----- Original Message -----
From: Dr. Volker Zell <Dr.Volker.Zell@oracle.com>
To: Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) <lhall@rfk.com>
Cc: Daniel Barclay <Daniel.Barclay@digitalfocus.com>;
<ehud@unix.simonwiesel.co.il>; <cygwin@sources.redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: NTEmacs shell/CygWin: should control-C work?


> >>>>> "RFK" == RFK Partners, Inc <Larry> writes:
>
>     RFK> At 11:22 AM 1/18/2001, Daniel Barclay wrote:
>     >> "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" wrote:
>     >> >
>     >> > At 02:15 PM 1/16/2001, Daniel Barclay wrote:
>     >> > >"Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" wrote:
>     >> > > >
>     >> > >...
>     >> > > > ... However,
>     >> > > > I can say you'll have better luck with a Cygwin version of
Emacs, like
>     >> > > > XEmacs.  You'll find Cygwin applications work much better
with other
>     >> > > > Cygwin applications, especially in areas of detail like this.
>     >> > >
>     >> > >How different is XEmacs from GNU/NTEmacs?
>     >> > >
>     >> > >(I don't do much (any) Lisp programming, so I guess I'm just
asking about
>     >> > >default configuration and about compatibility of add-ons like
JDE.)
>     >> >
>     >> > Sorry, I was a little unclear.  AFAIK, there is a Cygwin version
of XEmacs
>     >> > but there isn't one for NTEmacs.  My main point was that signal
functionality
>     >> > can be handled by Cygwin (and is) or by the O/S.  However, the
signal coming
>     >> > from a Win32 app doesn't get the same response out of Cygwin as
one coming
>     >> > from a Cygwin app.  If you have problems in this area, your best
bet is to
>     >> > use Cygwin-enabled versions of apps when available.
>     >>
>     >> I just meant how different is XEmacs from NTEmacs to the user?  If
I switch
>     >> from NTEmacs (which I'm used to) to XEmacs (which I don't know),
how big a
>     >> change is that likely to been (from the Emacs user point of view)?
>
>
>     RFK> I, of course, am not qualified to answer that question since I
don't use
>     RFK> Emacs at all.  Others might be able to help.  You may be better
off asking
>     RFK> this question on some Emacs list though...
>
> I've done the switch a long time ago. NO big deal.
> Just switch of the toolbar and it feels like Emacs.
>
> Ciao
>   Volker
>
>
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* RE: NTEmacs shell/CygWin: should control-C work?
@ 2001-01-12 14:31 Robinow, David
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From: Robinow, David @ 2001-01-12 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

> From: Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [ mailto:lhall@rfk.com ]
> At 04:25 PM 1/12/2001, Ehud Karni wrote:
>>> Do you mean it's a known problem that crops up (for some people), or
that
>>> it simply doesn't work at all (for anyone combining Emacs and CygWin)?
>>I think he meant it is a general problem for everyone. The base of this
>>is that the emacs shell buffer is not a tty. You can check it by doing
>>`stty', you'll get: "stty: standard input: Not a character device".
>>
>>And hence, it is not a tty ==> it will not generate SIGINT for ^C.
>>
>>Ehud.
> Forgive me for coming late to the party.  I didn't digest that this 
> conversation was about NTEmacs (i.e. the Windows port).  I'll leave 
> aside whether or not ^C should work in this context.  I really don't
> know whether it should/would/ever did.  I don't use Emacs.  However, 
> I can say you'll have better luck with a Cygwin version of Emacs, like
> XEmacs.  You'll find Cygwin applications work much better with other 
> Cygwin applications, especially in areas of detail like this.
 Larry has a point.

 NTEmacs:  "stty: standard input: Not a character device"  BREAK does not
work
 XEmacs for NT: "stty: standard input: Not a character device"  BREAK does
not work
 cygwin XEmacs: stty works correctly.   BREAK works.

 Note that results are the same whether typing C-c C-c, selecting BREAK
from the "Signals" menu, or typing M-x comint-interrupt-subjob  (as one 
would expect)

 Setting CYGWIN=TTY does not seem to matter. (Not sure if I tried all
combos)

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2001-01-12 11:54                         ` David M. Karr
2001-01-12 12:30                           ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
2001-01-12 12:43                             ` David M. Karr
2001-01-12 13:12                               ` Daniel Barclay
2001-01-12 13:13                               ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
2001-01-12 13:06                           ` Daniel Barclay
2001-01-12 13:26                         ` Ehud Karni
2001-01-12 13:57                           ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
2001-01-16 11:14                             ` Daniel Barclay
2001-01-16 11:27                               ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
2001-01-18  8:21                                 ` Daniel Barclay
2001-01-18  8:27                                   ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
2001-01-18 16:47                                     ` Dr. Volker Zell
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