RE: Thanks for the help

RE: Thanks for the help

[Colin Peters]

jfmiller[SMTP:jfmiler@polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu] wrote:
>by unamious concent I did indeed chechout and ust the minimulist win32
>page.  while the documentation could use a little calirifaction the
>package worked great.  BTW Colin Peters and Cygnus have made it on to my
>list of people to send money to if I ever become rich (don't hold your
>breath, it's not likely to happen any time soon)

Promises of cash rewards! I knew there was a reason I did this stuff :)

Seriously, I'm glad it's useful to you (and I agree with you about
the documentation... sigh).

>> 3) I'm am new to windows programming. (I'm sure that this fact is
>> blatintly clear by now)  Are there any books (or even better internet
>> sourses) that would explain at least some of the basics?  Most of the
>> books I have found are writen assuming one has either MSVC or BC.  will
>> any of these work?
>
>_Programming_Windows_95_ By Charles Petzold pub. Micro$oft Press.  This
>book was recomended both here and by some profs here at CalPoly.  It's a
>great boog and works well with gnu-win32.  

It looks like you may have already spent the money (and it is a
worthwhile investment IMHO), but in case you haven't I would like
to recommend the "Programmers Bookshelf for Windows 95" CD ROM
from Microsoft Press. It includes both Petzold and "Advanced Windows"
which I am constantly referring to whenever I program. It also includes
three other books which I don't use so much, but since the cost of
the CD was less than the cost of the first two books put together
I don't mind.

I've slowly been putting together example programs with Mingw32 in C++
and a very basic class library to support them. Basically I hope to
replicate most, if not all, of the example programs in Petzold
(sometimes with slight differences in functionality). I'll be posting
a preliminary version of some of these samples to my web pages some
time in the near future. Hopefully some of the first-time Win32
programmers who are using Mingw32 and/or GNU-Win32 will find them
informative, or at least entertaining.

Anyway, good luck,
Colin.

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-- Saga University Dept. of Information Science
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Re: Thanks for the help

[Mikey]

Bash is to command.com what Arnold Swartchnegger 
(or however you spell it) is to me, (a 150 lb computer geek).

Bash is the default startup command processor for most unix
workstations, probably what you will get if you ever dial in to your
ISP, and access your shell account.

It is incredibly useful, and can allow you to do many things
from the command prompt that would be difficult, or impossible
from command.com.

It is essential for rebuilding the cygnus tools, if you type configure
at the DosBox prompt, command com will scream in horror, and
die.

It is a little more complicated to configure however,
there is a pointer on the cygnus WWW page to some help for
setting up bash.

On Thu, 12 Jun 1997 15:45:46 -0700, you wrote:

>Dear All
>
>I would like to thank everyone who helped me get the compiler up and
>running.  I've had harder times getting answers out of Micro$oft (at
>$0.65/min) I really do appriciat all of you taking the time to help
>those of us who wand to dive head first into this thing.  for those of
>you who are wondering here's what I did:
>
>> 1) I want to write original win32 programs and I'm not nessacely
>> intrested in porting anything. Do I need all of the cdk.exe stuff? and
>> could someone explain what is in all the (important) directories.
>
>by unamious concent I did indeed chechout and ust the minimulist win32
>page.  while the documentation could use a little calirifaction the
>package worked great.  BTW Colin Peters and Cygnus have made it on to my
>list of people to send money to if I ever become rich (don't hold your
>breath, it's not likely to happen any time soon)
> 
>> 2) What is BASH?  how and why do I use it?  I have used unix (AIX) on
>> CalPoly's server but I'm not real fimiliar with it.  
>
>Still don't really know the answer to this but I don't seem to need it
>so...
> 
>> 3) I'm am new to windows programming. (I'm sure that this fact is
>> blatintly clear by now)  Are there any books (or even better internet
>> sourses) that would explain at least some of the basics?  Most of the
>> books I have found are writen assuming one has either MSVC or BC.  will
>> any of these work?
>
>_Programming_Windows_95_ By Charles Petzold pub. Micro$oft Press.  This
>book was recomended both here and by some profs here at CalPoly.  It's a
>great boog and works well with gnu-win32.  
> 
>> 4) I followed the directions in the FAQ on how to install Cygnus32
>> however dos gives me the message "Out of envrioment space"  are there
>> any remidies for this. (I've gotten the impression that bash may hold
>> the solution to this problem but as I said some of the un*x lingo is a
>> bit over my head)
>
>either
>config.sys:
>
>shell=c:\command.com /p /e:1024
>
>or 
>
>at dos prompt type command.con /p /e:1024  <-- I use this.
>
>> 5) Finaly could someone point me to some programs that have been made
>> the gnu-win32 (btw is this what you call this thing) that have bothe the
>> exicutable and the source as an example of how to do this?
>
>I have a realy basic one that I will give to anyone who asks (don't
>expect much it's just the chapter 1 exersize from Petzold but it works!)
>
>
>thanks again.  
>
>John Miller
>jfmiler@polymail.calpoly.edu
>
>
>P.S.  I will be dropping this mailing list in favor of the anouncments
>list because of the volume of mail and summer vacation.
>-
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Thanks for the help

[jfmiller]

Dear All

I would like to thank everyone who helped me get the compiler up and
running.  I've had harder times getting answers out of Micro$oft (at
$0.65/min) I really do appriciat all of you taking the time to help
those of us who wand to dive head first into this thing.  for those of
you who are wondering here's what I did:

> 1) I want to write original win32 programs and I'm not nessacely
> intrested in porting anything. Do I need all of the cdk.exe stuff? and
> could someone explain what is in all the (important) directories.

by unamious concent I did indeed chechout and ust the minimulist win32
page.  while the documentation could use a little calirifaction the
package worked great.  BTW Colin Peters and Cygnus have made it on to my
list of people to send money to if I ever become rich (don't hold your
breath, it's not likely to happen any time soon)
 
> 2) What is BASH?  how and why do I use it?  I have used unix (AIX) on
> CalPoly's server but I'm not real fimiliar with it.  

Still don't really know the answer to this but I don't seem to need it
so...
 
> 3) I'm am new to windows programming. (I'm sure that this fact is
> blatintly clear by now)  Are there any books (or even better internet
> sourses) that would explain at least some of the basics?  Most of the
> books I have found are writen assuming one has either MSVC or BC.  will
> any of these work?

_Programming_Windows_95_ By Charles Petzold pub. Micro$oft Press.  This
book was recomended both here and by some profs here at CalPoly.  It's a
great boog and works well with gnu-win32.  
 
> 4) I followed the directions in the FAQ on how to install Cygnus32
> however dos gives me the message "Out of envrioment space"  are there
> any remidies for this. (I've gotten the impression that bash may hold
> the solution to this problem but as I said some of the un*x lingo is a
> bit over my head)

either
config.sys:

shell=c:\command.com /p /e:1024

or 

at dos prompt type command.con /p /e:1024  <-- I use this.

> 5) Finaly could someone point me to some programs that have been made
> the gnu-win32 (btw is this what you call this thing) that have bothe the
> exicutable and the source as an example of how to do this?

I have a realy basic one that I will give to anyone who asks (don't
expect much it's just the chapter 1 exersize from Petzold but it works!)


thanks again.  

John Miller
jfmiler@polymail.calpoly.edu


P.S.  I will be dropping this mailing list in favor of the anouncments
list because of the volume of mail and summer vacation.
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