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From: John Wiersba <John.Wiersba@medstat.com>
To: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: RE: cat broken
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:00:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <03F4742D8225D21191EF00805FE62B990205E17D@AA-MSG-01> (raw)

Phil:  OK, I see what you're saying now.

What I was talking about was a duplicate echo.  Not the normal echoing of
characters which you can turn on and off with stty, but a *second* copy of
the line you just typed which is echoed immediately after pressing the ENTER
key.

cat > file
this is a test. (ENTER pressed here)
this is a test.
please stop repeating what I say (ENTER pressed here)
please stop repeating what I say
...

cat is broken in the 5/23 release, fixed in the 1/16 and 6/10 releases (I
don't know why).

Regarding those "trace thingies":

The problem is that I'm experimenting with different versions of the
cygwin1.dll to see if I can find one which fixes some of the more serious
bugs without introducing new bugs.  For example, the 5/23 dll fixes the
"find command broken across mounts" bug but breaks cat in the process.  I
guess that's what's meant by a "stable" release -- a release which
introduces very few new bugs of its own while fixing a substantial number of
the bugs in previous releases.  

If I'm experimenting with every version of the dll after 5/23, trying to
find one which fixes the problems I'm experiencing, it's a real pain to have
to unpack the inst archive, too.  I was hoping someone could tell me: "The
version released on, e.g. 6/10, fixes most of the reported bugs that have
been fixed so far and ***has not been reported to have introduced any
serious new bugs***".  Then I could grab that version of the dll and the
inst archive and spend the time to install them with reasonable confidence
that I'll have a working system when I'm done ("working" means "with all the
goodies which have worked in the past but without major new bugs").

-- John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Edwards [ mailto:pedwards@jaj.com ]
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 12:48 PM
> To: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com; John.Wiersba@medstat.com
> Subject: RE: cat broken
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > > > Using the 5/23 cygwin1.dll, the following is broken:
> > > > 	cat >file
> > > > It echos the input typed from the terminal
> > > 
> > > Uh, that's what is supposed to happen... unless you mean 
> that it ONLY
> > > echos the input, and writes a zero-length file?
> >
> > No, "cat >file" should take input from stdin (the terminal) 
> and write it to
> > file, which in fact is what happens with the 1/15 
> cygwin1.dll.  However, the
> > 5/23 dll echos the input from terminal back to the terminal.
> 
> Let me try again.  On any and every Unix,
> 
>    $ cat > file
>    This is a test.
>    ^D
>    $ 
> 
> should echo to the screen as well as write to the file.  You 
> will be hard
> pressed to not get that stuff echoed on the screen.  I'm 
> /hoping/ that your
> problem is that cat is /only/ echoing to the screen and not 
> /also/ writing
> a file.  Check?
> 
> 
> Now, the errors that you're seeing after replacing the DLL 
> (those freaky
> trace thingies) are indeed due to a mismatch between a binary 
> and the DLL.
> That's the only major problem with using the inst snapshots; 
> it's harder
> to keep things in sync (e.g., backing out replacements, or 
> not getting a
> new binary with a new DLL).  How you as an end user manage 
> that is largely
> a matter of taste -- copying directory structures and 
> updating a copy, or
> reinstalling original binaries from a distribution, or just 
> living with
> the nonfatal errors, etc, etc.
> 
> 
> (If you reply to the list, please DON'T cc another copy to 
> me.  Thanks!)
> Phil
> 

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From: John Wiersba <John.Wiersba@medstat.com>
To: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: RE: cat broken
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:10:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <03F4742D8225D21191EF00805FE62B990205E17D@AA-MSG-01> (raw)
Message-ID: <19990630221000.m7BkDoimkCANHUJ4rkLYEVtGMACTPcRAx-ecgUa4mto@z> (raw)

Phil:  OK, I see what you're saying now.

What I was talking about was a duplicate echo.  Not the normal echoing of
characters which you can turn on and off with stty, but a *second* copy of
the line you just typed which is echoed immediately after pressing the ENTER
key.

cat > file
this is a test. (ENTER pressed here)
this is a test.
please stop repeating what I say (ENTER pressed here)
please stop repeating what I say
...

cat is broken in the 5/23 release, fixed in the 1/16 and 6/10 releases (I
don't know why).

Regarding those "trace thingies":

The problem is that I'm experimenting with different versions of the
cygwin1.dll to see if I can find one which fixes some of the more serious
bugs without introducing new bugs.  For example, the 5/23 dll fixes the
"find command broken across mounts" bug but breaks cat in the process.  I
guess that's what's meant by a "stable" release -- a release which
introduces very few new bugs of its own while fixing a substantial number of
the bugs in previous releases.  

If I'm experimenting with every version of the dll after 5/23, trying to
find one which fixes the problems I'm experiencing, it's a real pain to have
to unpack the inst archive, too.  I was hoping someone could tell me: "The
version released on, e.g. 6/10, fixes most of the reported bugs that have
been fixed so far and ***has not been reported to have introduced any
serious new bugs***".  Then I could grab that version of the dll and the
inst archive and spend the time to install them with reasonable confidence
that I'll have a working system when I'm done ("working" means "with all the
goodies which have worked in the past but without major new bugs").

-- John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Edwards [ mailto:pedwards@jaj.com ]
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 12:48 PM
> To: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com; John.Wiersba@medstat.com
> Subject: RE: cat broken
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > > > Using the 5/23 cygwin1.dll, the following is broken:
> > > > 	cat >file
> > > > It echos the input typed from the terminal
> > > 
> > > Uh, that's what is supposed to happen... unless you mean 
> that it ONLY
> > > echos the input, and writes a zero-length file?
> >
> > No, "cat >file" should take input from stdin (the terminal) 
> and write it to
> > file, which in fact is what happens with the 1/15 
> cygwin1.dll.  However, the
> > 5/23 dll echos the input from terminal back to the terminal.
> 
> Let me try again.  On any and every Unix,
> 
>    $ cat > file
>    This is a test.
>    ^D
>    $ 
> 
> should echo to the screen as well as write to the file.  You 
> will be hard
> pressed to not get that stuff echoed on the screen.  I'm 
> /hoping/ that your
> problem is that cat is /only/ echoing to the screen and not 
> /also/ writing
> a file.  Check?
> 
> 
> Now, the errors that you're seeing after replacing the DLL 
> (those freaky
> trace thingies) are indeed due to a mismatch between a binary 
> and the DLL.
> That's the only major problem with using the inst snapshots; 
> it's harder
> to keep things in sync (e.g., backing out replacements, or 
> not getting a
> new binary with a new DLL).  How you as an end user manage 
> that is largely
> a matter of taste -- copying directory structures and 
> updating a copy, or
> reinstalling original binaries from a distribution, or just 
> living with
> the nonfatal errors, etc, etc.
> 
> 
> (If you reply to the list, please DON'T cc another copy to 
> me.  Thanks!)
> Phil
> 

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             reply	other threads:[~1999-06-24 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-06-24 10:00 John Wiersba [this message]
1999-06-30 22:10 ` John Wiersba
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-06-24 15:57 John Wiersba
1999-06-30 22:10 ` John Wiersba
1999-06-24 12:03 John Wiersba
1999-06-24 12:11 ` Chris Faylor
1999-06-30 22:10   ` Chris Faylor
1999-06-30 22:10 ` John Wiersba
1999-06-24 10:56 Earnie Boyd
1999-06-30 22:10 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-06-24  9:37 Phil Edwards
1999-06-30 22:10 ` Phil Edwards
1999-06-24  8:18 John Wiersba
1999-06-24  8:29 ` Dr. Volker Zell
1999-06-30 22:10   ` Dr. Volker Zell
1999-06-24 11:51 ` Chris Faylor
1999-06-30 22:10   ` Chris Faylor
1999-06-30 22:10 ` John Wiersba
1999-06-23 15:47 John Wiersba
1999-06-30 22:10 ` John Wiersba
1999-06-23 14:52 Phil Edwards
1999-06-30 22:10 ` Phil Edwards
1999-06-23 12:42 John Wiersba
1999-06-24  0:49 ` Dr. Volker Zell
1999-06-30 22:10   ` Dr. Volker Zell
1999-06-30 22:10 ` John Wiersba

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