[Cygwin] SUBJECT ....

[Cygwin] SUBJECT ....

[Dennis Allison]

Hey folks, 
For a high volume list like this, it's useful to have the subject header tagged so 
dumb mail filtering can be used.  Any chance we can get the mailing list admin to 
arrange it to be added?

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Re: SUBJECT ....

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 08:04:41PM -0700, Dennis Allison wrote:
>For a high volume list like this, it's useful to have the subject
>header tagged so dumb mail filtering can be used.  Any chance we can
>get the mailing list admin to arrange it to be added?

Nope.  Absolutely no chance whatsoever.  Zero.  Nada.  Zilch.  No way.
Ain't going to happen.

There are any number of ways to filter on stuff in the header that don't
require adding the annoying subject prefixes.

In case it isn't clear, I don't like the subject prefixes...

cgf

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Re: SUBJECT ....

[Randall R Schulz]

Chris,

Whew! Thanks for that unequivocal reply.

There's nothing worse (in the world of mailing lists) that such a hideous 
sop to brain-dead mailers.

This makes me suspect that we're about due for the counterpart to the 
request for a [LIST-NAME] "Subject:" tag: having "Reply-To:" set by the 
list server.

Perhaps that one should be put to rest, right away, too?

Randall Schulz
Mountain View, CA USA


At 20:22 2002-07-02, you wrote:
>On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 08:04:41PM -0700, Dennis Allison wrote:
> >For a high volume list like this, it's useful to have the subject
> >header tagged so dumb mail filtering can be used.  Any chance we can
> >get the mailing list admin to arrange it to be added?
>
>Nope.  Absolutely no chance whatsoever.  Zero.  Nada.  Zilch.  No way.
>Ain't going to happen.
>
>There are any number of ways to filter on stuff in the header that don't
>require adding the annoying subject prefixes.
>
>In case it isn't clear, I don't like the subject prefixes...
>
>cgf


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Re: SUBJECT ....

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 08:37:57PM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
>Chris,
>
>Whew! Thanks for that unequivocal reply.
>
>There's nothing worse (in the world of mailing lists) that such a hideous 
>sop to brain-dead mailers.
>
>This makes me suspect that we're about due for the counterpart to the 
>request for a [LIST-NAME] "Subject:" tag: having "Reply-To:" set by the 
>list server.

We're actually suffering from a bout of this internally.  All of our
internal mailing lists have been revamped and all of them now have the
detested [BLEURGH] subject prefix.  I've been spending a lot of time
eradicating it there, too.

>Perhaps that one should be put to rest, right away, too?

Reply-To?  Not no way, not no how.

cgf

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Re: [Cygwin] SUBJECT ....

[Henry S. Thompson]

Dennis Allison <allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU> writes:

> For a high volume list like this, it's useful to have the subject
> header tagged so dumb mail filtering can be used.  Any chance we can
> get the mailing list admin to arrange it to be added?

No thank you -- I already route on 'To', which works just fine, don't
clutter up the Subject line with information already present in
another header field, please.

ht
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Re: [Cygwin] SUBJECT ....

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 12:41:38PM +0100, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
> Dennis Allison <allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU> writes:
> 
> > For a high volume list like this, it's useful to have the subject
> > header tagged so dumb mail filtering can be used.  Any chance we can
> > get the mailing list admin to arrange it to be added?
> 
> No thank you -- I already route on 'To', which works just fine, don't
> clutter up the Subject line with information already present in
> another header field, please.

Or you can filter for

  Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com

in the header.

Corinna

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Re: [Cygwin] SUBJECT ....

[Conrad Scott]

"Corinna Vinschen" <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com> wrote:
> Or you can filter for
>
>   Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com
>
> in the header.

Not if you're using OE 6. One of days, RSN, I'm get my act in gear and
use something less braindead.

Oh! inertia, a constant friend :-)

// Conrad




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Re: [cygwin] SUBJECT ....

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:09:44PM +0100, Conrad Scott wrote:
>"Corinna Vinschen" <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com> wrote:
>> Or you can filter for
>>
>>   Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com
>>
>> in the header.
>
>Not if you're using OE 6.  One of days, RSN, I'm get my act in gear and
>use something less braindead.

I'm pretty sure that Outlook Express has filtering capabilities.

It's been discussed here ad nauseum, pretty much every single time
this suggestion is raised.

Yep, we're following the script quite nicely.

cgf

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Re: [cygwin] SUBJECT ....

[Conrad Scott]

"Christopher Faylor" <cgf@redhat.com> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure that Outlook Express has filtering capabilities.
>
> It's been discussed here ad nauseum, pretty much every
> single time this suggestion is raised.
>
> Yep, we're following the script quite nicely.

Sorry Chris, I only meant to add a vaguely humourous note to the
proceedings.

As it happens, yes, Outlook Express has mail filtering, but no, you
can't filter on the Sender: field (AFAIK), just a small set of
predefined ones like To: and From:.  So, for example, cross-posted
emails are a PITA.

The point really was that even adding an ugly tag to the subject
line's not going to help something as braindead as OE. It's just plain
broke.

Ah well, I'm glad I kept to the script if I managed nothing else :-)

// Conrad




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